Without a decent spinner i cant see us beating the aussies

They are trying to make out that he's bowled well. Has been battered all over the ground.

not bowled badly TMB though not front line test spinner class...

they went after him and Stokes kept the field up...should have had Green very early as well..

Boland went @ over 6 yesterday and didn't bowl badly either..

He's turned 2 balls and gone for 115. Boland had to toil on a baking hot day with zero cloud cover.

hardly a bunsen at this stage...he'd have had 3-100 at worst if Bairstow doesn't miss the stumping...

agreed. But the Head shot was dreadful.

Ali is a decent bowler in helpful conditions. Lyon is a World Class bowler in any conditions. Let’s see what happens when Aussie bat last.

Ali has 197 Test wickets. I saw Derek Underwood and Graeme Swann who were both great bowlers who got more Test wickets. I also saw Emburey, Edmonds, Giles and Leach and a host of others who did not.

Having said all that he is really struggling physically and maybe he should not be playing Test cricket

I wonder what the young leggie would have done on this surface.

got a blister or cut on his spinning finger now -  not surprisingly given no proper preparation...big ask of the lad to come in and play an ashes test when he hasn't played a red ball game since god knows when..

Now Lyons is out, neither team has a spinner.

How brainless can you get! Keep making the mistake and they will all be out by close of play. That was not a clean catch by Smith though. It clearly touched the ground before he had control over it.

I thought it was a clean catch straight away and seeing the replay the correct decision was made, in my opinion, as the ball never touched the ground at any point.

yup does even it out a bit i suppose