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jackkat
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Not sure England will be rushing back to Durham amazing the groundsman can prepare the slowest pitch in England exactly what England don't want
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Report sageform August 26, 2022 5:31 PM BST
Why declare on day 2 with a lead of 256? I suppose they want a few overs tonight but if SA score 500 and England lose by 1 wicket they will look pretty silly.
Report Whisperingdeath August 27, 2022 12:09 AM BST
2 cracks with the new ball
Report Aptdemon August 27, 2022 7:56 PM BST
Be great if we could see the average of the first two Tests in the decider.

Innings defeat, innings win...1 wicket win in the third?
Report Aptdemon August 27, 2022 7:57 PM BST
Had high hopes for this series after the NZ & India batch.
Report Whisperingdeath August 28, 2022 10:34 AM BST
Unfortunately the atmospheric have ruined it.

I don’t blame the batsmen of either side for being useless against a Dukes under clouded sky.

SA Brains Tryst need to call a post morgen in this. Brave decision by Elgar but his batting is weak. Everyone knows that. You can’t win a Test Match in the first morning bu5 you can lose it. They did! They would have had England in an even worse position had they bowled.

Leaving Jansen out was a huge mistake. Naughty needs the other bowlers to be intense. Like I said before I ain’t seen nothing like this since their was a fire in Babylon. Their Fab Four is AWEsome.

Shame QDK is not in the side. Markram and VDD need to step up. They can bat. Peterson is a real talent but still learning. Not sure how they fit Harmer in but I think he can bat.

Robinson has come back better, certainly faster. He is ahead of Broad in my book. We need a fast bowler badly....and a spinner. Get Moen in fir The Oval. He is going to Pakistan.

Well done England. Again this Summer they got the best of the weather. Decent, very decent middle order when the ball goes soft. Just need two openers! Again I say thrown in Vince and Malan.
Report SontaranStratagem August 29, 2022 1:31 AM BST
Its entertaining if anything

Cant deny fans get value for that
Report SontaranStratagem August 29, 2022 1:31 AM BST
We win this series its been a fantastic summer
Report mafeking August 29, 2022 1:26 PM BST
indeed 5 wins from 6 playing some excellent stuff from the depths of 1 win from 17. i'm afraid it further illustrates just how clueless silverwood and root (great batsman obviously) were at running a cricket team
Report barstool September 8, 2022 2:55 PM BST
Typical September weather spoiling.

Had it not been for the Hundred rubbish this would have been in lovely sunshine last week.
Report brentford September 8, 2022 4:58 PM BST
let's hope Queenie hangs in or might be an even shorter test...
Report Fo'B September 8, 2022 5:10 PM BST
Hard to know what might happen if ma'am doesn't make it. One day could be lost out of respect, but play extended to Tuesday?
Report brentford September 8, 2022 5:27 PM BST
who knows...modern lack of flexibility would suggest if there was a day of mourning/respect it would just be a 3 day game..
Report Aptdemon September 8, 2022 5:34 PM BST
Blimey, that is quite the thing to factor into the prices right now Crazy
Report Aptdemon September 8, 2022 5:36 PM BST
Gotta think they'd extend a day for series decider and the end of our summer but who knows, I guess
Report brentford September 8, 2022 5:46 PM BST
needs everyone to agree including even potentially local council etc I'd imagine ...certainly possible but haven't seen much common sense prevail around modern cricket..

of course if she hangs on for a day or so could be even more impactful...(no disrespect intended to  those sensitive about such things)
Report brentford September 8, 2022 5:52 PM BST
if I was Elgar/Boucher/Cricket SA not sure having lost the toss I'd be in much mood to add a day tbh...and if it occurs after getting bowled out cheaply even less so..
Report Fo'B September 8, 2022 6:02 PM BST
You'd expect SA to be flying out on Tuesday too. As far as common sense goes, are they even starting at 10.30 tomorrow as is good enough for county cricket I ask myself
Report brentford September 8, 2022 6:06 PM BST
that's true Fo'B - always amazed just how quickly touring teams are on flights once the game is done..

pretty sure the time is to be made up at the end of the day as per usual but may well have made more sense to use the county approach at this time of year..
Report Aptdemon September 8, 2022 6:19 PM BST
Hard to argue with all of that - guess the draw gets lumped if the news comes...?!
Report brentford September 8, 2022 6:23 PM BST
I'd feel compelled to reserve judgement on that apt' not least because BF could void if they choose to..or if it suits key parties..

tread carefully would be the only observation from all that to be honest...
Report Aptdemon September 8, 2022 6:57 PM BST
Draw 5/6 Sportsbook, 5/4 Exchange

England same price on both
Report brentford September 8, 2022 7:16 PM BST
Saffers overpriced for me - not sure England's batting line up here merits huge confidence even if they roll them with the ball..but a very odd betting scenario currently..
Report brentford September 8, 2022 7:37 PM BST
Following the death of Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, Friday's play between England and South Africa Men at The Oval, along with all scheduled matches in the Rachael Heyhoe Flint Trophy, will not take place.

For fixtures beyond Friday, updates will be provided in due course.
Report Whisperingdeath September 8, 2022 7:51 PM BST
That has to be a result if you paid £100 a ticket. Looks like plenty of rain tomorrow but enough play not to get a refund.
Report Fo'B September 8, 2022 9:13 PM BST
The ECB is thought to be looking at a variety of options for the third Test between England and South Africa at the Oval, which range from applying to the ICC to extend the match by an extra day to cancelling it completely. However at this stage it is understood to be more likely that the Test continues this weekend, with a suitable mark of respect.
Report brentford September 8, 2022 10:15 PM BST
would you not think a temporary suspension of the market would be reasonable...rather than the obvious advantage to anyone working inside the ECB or with contacts to either team...?
Report LendUsAFiver September 9, 2022 9:51 AM BST
When Mandela died it was business as usual in the Cricket. I can’t see SA taking this too lightly, they could push for a forfeit as per the rules if they do wished.
Players have schedules and commitments so sadly they can’t just add a day ad-hoc.

Tie could also be a possibility but at 100/1 that looks about right.
I think the captains shaking hands and declaring a draw at the start of day 3 is more likely than a tie though, even though it makes more sense to bowl each-other out for 0-10, 0-10, 0-10, 0-10 to get the extra points- if they did that it would be considered match fixing rather than a show of respect  .
Report detraveller September 9, 2022 10:41 AM BST
Draw 1.97 for four days of play? Isn't that like the lay of the century?
Report detraveller September 9, 2022 10:43 AM BST
Well, it would be under normal circumstances. If today's off, does it mean only  days of play even if they do start playing tomorrow? I was thinking they'll just add another day.
Report detraveller September 9, 2022 10:51 AM BST
Fk it im out. No idea what crap they will come up with. But they'll definitely do something to make it sound like something big happened. Can't afford the monarchy to go more irrelevant than it already is. No offence.
Report Fo'B September 9, 2022 11:37 AM BST
Yeah any money left up would be at risk of hoovering if anything changes. A suspension might be reasonable but feels a bit hands on for BF, you can make the same argument eg on election night when the exit poll info is passed to the TV graphics people. BF's attitude would be - it's all in the game.
Report brentford September 9, 2022 12:13 PM BST
true enough Fo'B

with all the football off I'm thinking no game is more likely but have to wait and see...
Report brentford September 9, 2022 1:56 PM BST
wouldn't be cricket if they didn't take all day to come to a decision..looks as though the ecb communications manager has layed the draw anyway Mischief
Report Fo'B September 9, 2022 2:05 PM BST
just in time to back it all back before his press release making no mention of adding an extra day :/
Report brentford September 9, 2022 2:07 PM BST
lol yep...

no clarity as yet as to 3 or 4 day
Report Fo'B September 9, 2022 3:17 PM BST
espn say no day 6
Report The Spinmaster September 10, 2022 10:46 AM BST
Hope SA don't let Eng win out of sympathy.
Report Whisperingdeath September 10, 2022 10:53 AM BST
Overcast up here. Bowling day fo sho
Report detraveller September 10, 2022 11:00 AM BST
Draw looks too short for this. 294 over. Overcast conditions.
Report detraveller September 10, 2022 11:07 AM BST
timber
Report detraveller September 10, 2022 11:12 AM BST
wtf is this south african batting line up?????
Report The Spinmaster September 10, 2022 11:51 AM BST
Wtf SA will be all out by lunchtime.
Report Jumper45 September 10, 2022 11:55 AM BST
Thank you England. Got out of my pre match lay draw within an hour of play as no doubt many others will do.
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 12:14 PM BST
Anderson & Robinson under cloud in England...

Is there a more potent combination anywhere in world?
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 12:16 PM BST
Cummins & Hazlewood in Oz? Close, I guess
Report brentford September 10, 2022 12:18 PM BST
good old Zaltz' on tms - worst start for a batting team at the Oval since 1882...Crazy
Report Whisperingdeath September 10, 2022 12:32 PM BST
Rabada, Jansen and Naughty?

Pace,  bounce and class in reverse order!
Report Whisperingdeath September 10, 2022 12:34 PM BST
Bumrah, Shami plus one of any number Bhuvi, Siraj, Fat Botham ( Thakur )
Report sageform September 10, 2022 12:38 PM BST
Just torn myself away from BBC1 and the ceremonials that I wanted to watch so I have missed this SA collapse. No doubt both will be repeated many times over in the coming days. A very different Saturday to most.
Report Insideshrewdie September 10, 2022 1:16 PM BST
SA 8.4....too short surely?
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 1:17 PM BST
Don't disagree there, shrewdie...
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 1:18 PM BST
And there it goes, got a tickle at 8.2 and 8.0. Ditch at 9.8
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 1:20 PM BST
Dang, looks like 11.0 might get touched
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 1:30 PM BST

Sep 10, 2022 -- 1:16PM, Insideshrewdie wrote:


SA 8.4....too short surely?


Great call. Twelve minutes later a piece at 12.5 is gobbled

Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 1:35 PM BST
Wow - what a lunch break.

SA 8.0 to 12.5 and back to 8.6 in twenty five minutes. Nuts.
Report brentford September 10, 2022 1:49 PM BST
lot of footie fans betting today
Report Fo'B September 10, 2022 2:07 PM BST
posh people talking about even posher people on R4 longwave, all in the name of respect. Was expecting TMS and got an anecdote involving the passing of a humorous comment on the equerry's trousers ffs
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 2:53 PM BST
England six or more down at close would be fun.
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 2:54 PM BST
SA won't be 10.0 if England achieve their 30/3
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 2:55 PM BST
...or 11.0
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 3:04 PM BST
90odd for 7, SA trading 5.4.

Added 30some, England 7/0...SA now 18.0 LaughLaugh
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 3:44 PM BST
SA look very generously priced, not even seen Nortje yet Shocked
Report brentford September 10, 2022 3:45 PM BST
been some proper mental pricing for sure...
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 3:55 PM BST
Repeating myself from last test but Bazball is in its element against a low first innings total
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 3:56 PM BST
draw now looks pretty short, watching this approach, hard to work a scenario whereby draw comes into focus
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 3:57 PM BST

Sep 10, 2022 -- 3:45PM, brentford wrote:


been some proper mental pricing for sure...


been some proper mental pricing for sure...

Gosh, yes.

I usually don't touch the longest priced outcome but SA market has been bonkers for 2+ hours

Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 3:58 PM BST
With *sooooo* much money being thrown around by someone
Report brentford September 10, 2022 4:00 PM BST
was literally tilting between about 5.2 and 6.6 during that 8th wkt (I think) stand...

lot of people betting it that wouldn't usually but I'm guessing more automated stuff at play as well...not often seen the like in 20 odd years on here..
Report brentford September 10, 2022 4:00 PM BST
tilting by the ball that is..
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 4:05 PM BST
Completely agree, brentford - real outlying stuff.

Draw's been in this 4.0-5.0 range all England's innings yet the volumes matched are nowhere near the amount that's been traded on SA at prices of 20.0-34.0!
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 4:06 PM BST
Calmed down a little since I started typing, hope they're not listening Crazy
Report brentford September 10, 2022 4:11 PM BST
was just thinking that...Grin
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 4:12 PM BST
Also could make it look like it's me Laugh
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 4:12 PM BST
I can assure everyone...I'm just rubbing a couple of beans together every time
Report brentford September 10, 2022 4:34 PM BST
maybe he's a big fan of 'Flog it' and had to dip out...
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 4:48 PM BST
Haha
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 6:23 PM BST
Flog It has clearly finished
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 6:27 PM BST
If the market hates SA batting lineup (no qualms) then the draw should be considerably longer than 5.0.

If it doesn't, SA should be considerably shorter than 12.5.
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 6:27 PM BST
Currently, it both loves and hates it. I'm baffled.
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 6:34 PM BST
Can't deny, I am gutted we don't get that final hour.

What a day. On and off pitch.
Report Aptdemon September 10, 2022 6:36 PM BST
Hope everyone shows up again tomorrow...Blush
Report brentford September 10, 2022 6:36 PM BST
yep, proper random number generator stuff but with added Lumpies...

umps were a bit keen getting off there...had they even taking a previous reading...
Report detraveller September 10, 2022 6:39 PM BST
I started the day 00 red on all results. Right now I have 880 green on all results.

The draw was too short to start with. And it looked short to me even though I thought Markram and Dussen were playing. SA batting was too weak. Conditions were great for bowling.

SA price all over the place all day but I couldn't touch it due to the fear that England might just run away with it and SA give up.

Great day.
Report detraveller September 10, 2022 6:40 PM BST
Thats 300 red on all results to start the day.

That red was for laying the draw and then not knowing the second day was off till the scheduled start of second days play.
Report VardonVoo. September 10, 2022 7:07 PM BST
Hello all.

I'm sure it has been said before but doesn't Nasser look like a younger Vladimir Putin? I don't know why I didn't notice before.
Report Aptdemon September 11, 2022 11:25 AM BST
One fifty in five innings for SA.

Quite the stat.
Report detraveller September 11, 2022 11:40 AM BST
At what price do SA bottom?

If they lose wickets they drift out.

If they score runs, it only means England can too and so the draw comes in, not SA.

I'll be looking to lay them. My guess is 3.2 would be a good price to start laying them.

In other words, what price do you guys see SA at if they are all out for 300, leaving Eng 260 to chase in a day? Shorter than 3.2?
Report brentford September 11, 2022 11:43 AM BST
bit higher for me but the way this makt has been anyone's guess...

SA would be conservative with a dec if they got the chance and although Eng would prob go for it still mkt may not give full credit to that...
Report brentford September 11, 2022 11:57 AM BST
ideal for Saffers (price)  is 290-300 all out I guess... though obvs very run rate sensitive
Report Aptdemon September 11, 2022 12:24 PM BST
Looks like you called the 3.2 pretty tastily det'...

Market gave it a tickle then saw sense Grin
Report Aptdemon September 11, 2022 12:26 PM BST
Moved so quickly down when it breached 4.0 that I was a tad greedy and went for 2.84
Report Aptdemon September 11, 2022 12:28 PM BST
These pad-flicks desperately trying to make us torch our reviews this morning
Report Aptdemon September 11, 2022 12:28 PM BST
Quite the skill
Report brentford September 11, 2022 1:55 PM BST
how's he not at least reviewed that ?
Report brentford September 11, 2022 1:56 PM BST
dear me...
Report detraveller September 11, 2022 2:37 PM BST

Sep 11, 2022 -- 12:24PM, Aptdemon wrote:


Looks like you called the 3.2 pretty tastily det'...Market gave it a tickle then saw sense


Grin

Report sageform September 11, 2022 5:01 PM BST
Same old England. Last 2 opposition wickets leaking a lot of runs. They have not won yet.
Report sageform September 11, 2022 5:05 PM BST
Well done Stuart Broad. One more quickly please.
Report SontaranStratagem September 11, 2022 5:09 PM BST
Tricky score to be chasing
Report SontaranStratagem September 11, 2022 5:34 PM BST
They’ve decided to just quickly club them off Laugh
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