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kallisking
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Looks like we may get some indifferent weather days 1 and 2. India could be undercooked here but at the same time a little fatigue for the England bowlers. Looking to lay the side batting first expecting some early wickets with the new ball
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Report Whisperingdeath June 29, 2022 12:36 PM BST
Agree it might well be a wicketfest with the overheads!

Indian batting probably undercooked and possibly missing both openers. Would like to have a look at the reserve wicket keepers batting. It is a big ask for the Indian batters J think even against a 4th string England attack.

I think the England batting might well be exposed here after the recent pyrotechnics and tbf heroics. 1,2,3 and 5 have technical issues, which, will be tested in a TEST Match.

I hope the wicket is not too flat. I really do not know what to expect except entertainment!

Time to belt up and enjoy the ride!
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2022 12:56 PM BST
No idea how this is going. India have not lost the match on the first morning.
Report kallisking July 1, 2022 1:08 PM BST
Ball nibbling around enough to keep the bowlers interested. As well as cloud cover. Wicket looks a little dead. England to have the best of the batting conditions tomorrow. Forecast mixed this afternoon. Could be an on and off afternoon but ok next 4 days.
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2022 1:49 PM BST
Even weather is hard to call. India could get good batting conditions on the third day although if England are still batting day 3 the game might be theirs for the taking. Tomorrow doesn’t look great either. I am going to be there. The feeling is we are going to have a good day out regardless of the weather. Should brighten up after lunch tomorrow at
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2022 1:50 PM BST
I agree the lawyer is gone and the ball might swing this afternoon
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2022 1:51 PM BST
Lacquer
Report Whisperingdeath July 1, 2022 3:14 PM BST
Shame about Iyer going like that. An entertaining partnership was developing
Report Cardinal Scott July 1, 2022 5:45 PM BST
Nevermind Whispers, Pant and Jadeja have brought India back from the brink. DEVASTATING partnership
Report johnnythebull July 1, 2022 8:20 PM BST
India out Englanding England with that Baz partnership

Rishabh to Jonny..anything you can do

tame way to get out..dbl ton 4 the taking
Report brentford July 2, 2022 11:25 AM BST
just the 35 off that over...
Report johnnythebull July 2, 2022 11:58 AM BST
Lees goes castled..England about to get found out?
India in the driving seat and here comes the rain again
Report brentford July 2, 2022 1:42 PM BST
entirely outdated comments...but Crawley might benefit a bit from reigning in the big drives early in his inns against the new ball and actually making some effort to get his foot a bit nearer the pitch of the ball..
Report brentford July 2, 2022 1:46 PM BST
tbf that wasn't really a big drive seeing it again but it' still lazy footwork/hard hands combo against a ball that's moving..
Report brentford July 2, 2022 6:36 PM BST
positivity now includes a night watchman...Mischief
Report Whisperingdeath July 3, 2022 11:58 AM BST
Bstard in the form of his life playing beautifully I have to say. He is not dragging everyone leg either. He seems to have a lot more time on the ball and is not trying to hammer it.
Report johnnythebull July 3, 2022 12:27 PM BST
it's amazing what confidence can do for a batsman..probably playing as well as any batsman in the world atm,Babar Azam excepted

and unlike that arrogant,overrated,bigged up pr1ck Stokes who i'd drop,is playing with smart,controlled aggression albeit some loose shots in there but fair play to the guy

for me,a test of what England are about is,assuming they avoid the follow in,they will have,this time round,in all likelihood,an insuperable target to chase down

leaving only the India win or draw as probable results

let's see them,bat professionally and SAVE a match in the face of a decent bowling attack but by no means a minefield of a batting strip.
Report Whisperingdeath July 3, 2022 12:37 PM BST
Good stuff from KP.
Report johnnythebull July 3, 2022 2:57 PM BST
no way that was a catch,even the 2nd attempt was iffy
Report spyker July 3, 2022 3:05 PM BST
You could clearly see it bounce into his hand - if it had hit his fingers it would have rolled/bounced not clearly bounce. The umps on field are guessing and can’t possibly see it bounce and obviously the days on going what the fielder says (esp a team with kholi in!) are gone. In this case he prob didn’t know but the replays were clear to me.
Report johnnythebull July 3, 2022 3:46 PM BST
true but as the soft signal was out u have to have 'incontrovertible' evidence to counter it.
now had it been given 'not out' it would've been a 2 second job by the 3rd umpire to confirm it
imagine if THAT decision were the defining point in an Ashes or World Cup or smth
Report SontaranStratagem July 3, 2022 8:29 PM BST
Kinda knew this was possible with this style weve adopted

India have grind us down so fair play to them, at least its enjoyable so I wont moan about it when we get beat

Bairstow is on fire for us
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 1:31 PM BST
India are huge for a 33% R.O.C.E for a day and a half!

Surprised  there is not huge money if not on India then certainly laying England
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 1:34 PM BST
Still plenty of time for England to score the runs but I am convinced they won’t!

Going to have another dip laying England just in case of the weather.
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 1:42 PM BST
I hope this is exciting. C’mon England…… but my money is against them!
Report johnnythebull July 4, 2022 1:46 PM BST
ditto..just laid them @ 3.95..they HAVE enough time to score the runs w/o going gung ho

at more than one stage they may well look on course but their lack of discipline will do for them come the finish

they have to set a new record for an England team to chase these down

India's bowlers should be good enough to deny them but we'll see.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 1:47 PM BST
looked pretty tough against the new ball yesterday at the start of India inns...I'd want more than the 3.90 on offer to back Eng here ...this isn't as flat as Trent Bridge or Headingley imo.
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 1:48 PM BST
With you WD, cannot see them chasing this and the England lay looks very tasty, had a nibble.

Not too significant a bite, as I'd love us to get going and see where that takes things...
Report mafeking July 4, 2022 1:51 PM BST
lost on fri afternoon and broad's brainstorm on sat morning. don't care how well pant played you can't allow side to get up to 400 from 100/5
Report Insideshrewdie July 4, 2022 1:55 PM BST
3.5 to lay now...surely that's wrong?
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 1:57 PM BST
hehe...20-0 and we'll probably be odds on LaughExcitedLaugh
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 1:57 PM BST
sell, sell, sell
Report brentford July 4, 2022 2:03 PM BST
win viz has England at 24% currently though bizarrely has the draw @ 3%
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 2:06 PM BST
Topped up the Engerland  Lay at 3

As long as India fo not lose the plot. They just have to bowl straight
Report brentford July 4, 2022 2:07 PM BST
One potential positive, apt - I promise to never question their approach again if they do get these...Grin
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 2:07 PM BST
I haven’t had a 4 figure win for months!
Report brentford July 4, 2022 2:17 PM BST
couple of nice leaves from Crawley  LoveGrin
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 2:18 PM BST
I know, b - me neither.

Can't believe the things we've seen this summer. This would be something else still.
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 2:20 PM BST
Lees is moving from a Sibley to a Sehwag.
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 2:23 PM BST
We're 2.8 at 33-0, chasing 378 - what price would we have been, in this precise scenario, had this 'fifth' test been the actual fifth test last year?

I'd go 5.4. (Even that feels short)
Report brentford July 4, 2022 2:26 PM BST
yep, at least that I'd have thought but I suppose back to back top ten chases in England have to have some impact..

nice from Crawley...bit more selective and then they bowl straighter get the odd gift...he's very strong off his legs as well..
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 2:35 PM BST
So easy to see how the opposition become scrambled, quickly, by this 'new' Test cricket.

Could be the best attribute of this type of approach - panic.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 2:45 PM BST
yep, true

India should be pestering for a ball change here as England were all afternoon..not done a lot.
Report sageform July 4, 2022 2:47 PM BST
Plenty of time and the pitch seems to be playing OK. Get runs when you can until the ball is 30 overs old and then let fly as the bowlers tire. As we saw against NZ, big scores in the fourth innings are not impossible if you believe.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 3:06 PM BST
Eng go favs...winviz still siding with India @ 56 % (Eng 40%)
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 3:17 PM BST
This is crazy but am enjoying the ride!
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 3:17 PM BST
Bairstow's been one thing the past four matches but it has always looked risk-heavy, works one day (or four in a row, in his current case), doesn't another.

I'll surely hex this but this hasn't been an all-out ODI assault, it's just been maximum positivity.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 3:18 PM BST
Eng hit favouritism on the viz and Crawley finding out driving after the new ball and opening bowlers have been worked through is a higher % shot...
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 3:18 PM BST
Absolutely love it.

Literally a few matches ago, we were hanging our lot on Sibley being 6* from his first fifty balls and blunting the new ball.
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 3:23 PM BST
Exactly like you say, b and hopefully this wakes Crawley up, moving forward with his career.

He's 40+ from 60 and been *leaving* the ball more than ever. Pick the right time/delivery.
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 3:24 PM BST
Easier said than done but I wonder if this could make him.

That 250 v Pakistan was brilliant but perhaps sowed a few bad seeds.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 3:30 PM BST
certainly showed some character anyway - must have felt under pressure for his place despite the public backing but just giving yourself that early look at stuff from 4th/5th stump and outside..always remember the likes of Viv and Ponting with pronounced leaves early on and not many more destructive than those..
Report sageform July 4, 2022 3:34 PM BST
It does help when the ball is behaving itself but it must do wonders for their confidence after such a long spell of losing early wickets. Why did I say that? Crawley out again without playing a stroke. A dreadful way to go. Plenty of batting to come though.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 3:34 PM BST
ball change wicket innit...first ball that's done anything of note off the seam..
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 4:03 PM BST
Well done England to have changed the odds. This is brilliant Captaincy from Bumrah
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 4:07 PM BST
Root in excellent form tk keep out a 90mph Yorker out so early in his innings
Report Whisperingdeath July 4, 2022 4:08 PM BST
LaughLaughLaugh I

Sorry but my money is on India. That is shocking! WTFF man!
Report brentford July 4, 2022 4:10 PM BST
that's on Root really that one...
Report brentford July 4, 2022 4:11 PM BST
Jonny to knock 'em off before the close..Mischief
Report brentford July 4, 2022 5:37 PM BST
with ball trends so far this summer Eng probably ahead of the game at the moment ...market says 58% ...winviz 52% but
Report SontaranStratagem July 4, 2022 5:44 PM BST
Weve defiantly got the entertainment tag now

Even if we lose its a good time to watch us with Stokes and McCullum
Report brentford July 4, 2022 6:15 PM BST
we seems to have a ginger run machine this summer...

think we've been the right side of mental here as well...that period where Bairstow and Root just battled through allied to Crawley having a look first up  I've really liked accepting it's as ever results driven how we tend to view it but as you say sonts' - we is the entertainers !
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 6:27 PM BST
Hard to surpass the 150odd-in-2.4overs, post-tea nonsense at Trent Bridge but this has been astonishingly impressive.

As I said earlier whilst Lees & Crawley were at it, this hasn't been gung-ho mayhem this afternoon, just uber-positive batting and running.

Superb time to be an England fan!
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 6:28 PM BST
(Slight Trent Bridge exaggeration Silly)
Report brentford July 4, 2022 6:29 PM BST
winviz finally admits draw unlikely shocker ! Laugh
Report brentford July 4, 2022 6:38 PM BST
incredible stuff...pitch probably hasn't done as much as it did yesterday at times but think a fair bit of that is the pressure they kept India under for a large part of the inns as well..

as ever it all looked tougher when a couple of wickets fell but India at times didn't know what to do...
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 6:38 PM BST
I don't have access to WinViz (I probably should) but I'm often surprised how far out of line the market is with it.

Today alone (paraphrasing the numbers slightly, all from Sky coverage):

When India were 59%, England 39% - market had both at 2.02 or thereabouts.

When England were shown at 58%, India 41% - market had England 1.42.

In essence, those should pretty much be identical markets (if we trust the WV algos)
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 6:41 PM BST
After the opposition panic, the second best thing about our approach is that there's only one new ball!

Seemingly even if you're chasing almost 400 in the fourth. Absolutely mental Crazy
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 6:52 PM BST
Talking of results-driven...

Ravi Shastri at lunch regaling how "the runs are just a bonus above 330-350 lead".

At close now...he's overtly lamenting India's batting, saying they didn't get enough runs, weren't attacking enough and should've batted 'til tea.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 6:53 PM BST
https://wisden.com/matches/live/206447/england-v-india-at-birmingham-5th-test-1-5-jul-2022

(use the top right one as the scoreboard one stays static without refresh)


I just get it off there if sky haven't shown it for a while...I'll be honest I don't hold much value to it but it's an interesting reference point at times.
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 7:04 PM BST
Merci beaucoup.

Definitely handy for the more glaring discrepancies, even just to burnish the confidence.
Report brentford July 4, 2022 7:07 PM BST
Exactly that...if it agrees with my view I use it as credible reinforcement....if it disagrees I dismiss at nonsense ! Laugh
Report Aptdemon July 4, 2022 7:10 PM BST
Laugh
Report SontaranStratagem July 4, 2022 8:45 PM BST
Thought wed lost yesterday but yet again we utterly take apart their bowling (nz as well) and basically chase a decent target with ease Crazy

Its mental

Wish we had this during the winter down under
Report johnnythebull July 4, 2022 10:37 PM BST
absolutely abject,woeful,pathetic 'bowling' from India
bar Bumrah,no one looked remotely like taking a wkt
England could've chased down a 1000
they are now officially invincible
test cricket is now officially dead
no one will ever want to play them again..GSM for mighty Albion..the magic formula has been foundGrin
despite all the above..kudos to them..their cup brimmeth over with confidence
Report SontaranStratagem July 5, 2022 12:23 AM BST
Johnny

It must be hard to play against us at the minute, weve turned into the Aussies when 5 down for nothing and still getting to a competitive score

Weve become aggressive but controlled with it
Report brentford July 5, 2022 11:09 AM BST
these ball changes are ridiculous, should try and import some kookaburra's or SG's for the SA series..

thought India might still have had a chance to at least make it nervy with the early overheads but plain sailing again so far..sun coming out

300-3 is just taking the pi$$
Report johnnythebull July 5, 2022 11:25 AM BST
No.what is taking the p is the pathetic,insipid Indian bowling..England are just scoring at absolute will
India nowt but flat track bullies on their own manor
England have absolutely cakewalked this,would have had more of a battle against India women
Report johnnythebull July 5, 2022 12:03 PM BST
has Baz been knighted yet or more to the point been made PM?
Report brentford July 5, 2022 12:03 PM BST
rude of India not to have at least set them the world record...would have hosed up..
Report sageform July 5, 2022 12:05 PM BST
easy to say now johnny, but just refer back to where they were after the first innings!. History being made and how. And they did it in 76 overs without having to play the second new ball!
Report Whisperingdeath July 5, 2022 12:09 PM BST
Truly extraordinary from England Johnny tbf. Extraordinary summer and extraordinary series. India really opened the door when they did not score another 75 odd runs but would England have got them? Yes if India bowled this badly.

Still not sure about this team but Johnny Bstard seems to have turned a corner. Had vattinv was really measured. When he plays across the line he waits for the fuller ball and is not working it from off. Stokes might do well to study his application and discipline. Baseball is big a thing.

Still not convinced by England top 3, spinner, fast bowler but they have done magnificently thus summer.
Report Whisperingdeath July 5, 2022 12:11 PM BST
Bazball is not a thing. This was controlled batting. Stokes was oafish the way he got out
Report johnnythebull July 5, 2022 12:19 PM BST
it was really anti climactic watching that..there was no uncertainty as to what was happening,it was an absolute train
England did what they had to do in no uncertain manner but India's careless,nonchalant batting setting a target way below what it should have been and their toothlessly pitiful bowling took any excitement right out of the game
they should be ashamed of that performance and i bet the Indian Press will not be too kind on them
Report SontaranStratagem July 5, 2022 12:53 PM BST
Fantastic from England

Whod have thought this was gonna happen 3 months ago, ridiculous turnaround and we’re seeing high chases easily gotten with the best controlled batting ive seen from us

Bairstow has gone up 5 gears, god knows what theyve been put him on since the spring Crazy
Report mafeking July 5, 2022 1:06 PM BST
lost in all this is that england have (obviously) taken 20 wickets 4 matches in a row. getting india out for 250 2nd dig was an incredible effort on this
Report Timber July 5, 2022 3:04 PM BST
The All Whites

This England team will flog the Aussies playing like this

The Ashes are going to be lit
Report Whisperingdeath July 5, 2022 3:20 PM BST
I don’t disagree Johnny but credit where due. Who’da thought the NZ and Indian attack would be humbled like this? England were lucky on occasion and the stars lined up for them. Like U have been saying we still need a top 3 ( I will give Pope a fair go ), a spinner and a fast bowler. Also someone to bowl between overs 30-80! Everything is not rosy in the garden but they did what they did!
Report Whisperingdeath July 5, 2022 3:21 PM BST
Like I have been saying that should read
Report SontaranStratagem July 5, 2022 5:41 PM BST
Timber

Not necceserily because the Aussies are better than NZ and India and esp India in our conditions

We need a more stable opener, a better number 3 and a frontline spinner and we’ll be almost the full package here in England

Its a case of can we do it in India and Pakistan... I doubt we’ll see this level of aggression working over there against good spinners
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