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Pre series prices

series winner Aus 1.36/1.37  England 5.8/5.9  drawn series 9.8/10.0

1st test Brisbane (Gabba)  Aus 2.26/2.28  Eng 5.0/5.1 Draw 2.72/74

squads :  https://www.cricbuzz.com/cricket-series/3532/the-ashes-2021-22/squads
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Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 7:57 AM GMT
I'm desperate for this to continue 'til tea.
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:00 AM GMT
Cannot quite believe a flip is possible before then Shocked
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:00 AM GMT
where's this been all series ?  LaughCrazy
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:05 AM GMT
Wow - lumpy's just been converted to England, too
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:06 AM GMT

Jan 16, 2022 -- 8:00AM, brentford wrote:


where's this been all series ?

Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:07 AM GMT
I know! I'm giddy.

(*as a result, largely sitting on my hands so far)
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:08 AM GMT
Evens Surprised
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:08 AM GMT
win viz starting to smoke out of confusion...Mischief
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:31 AM GMT
clearly not out ffs
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:31 AM GMT
seemed to be working unduly hard to find something incriminating...
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:32 AM GMT
Could've fitted a traffic jam of buses through the gap
Report VardonVoo. January 16, 2022 8:33 AM GMT

Jan 16, 2022 -- 7:33AM, Aptdemon wrote:


1.24 -> 1.41 is ludicrous.Someone is printing money


You want stupid odds movements, I just saw Djokovic trading at 10s to win the Aus Open so I left a lay bet at 5s, the lowest it had traded since the news of the failed appeal - had a look a few minutes later and amazingly it had been matched (and had traded even lower!) and by the time I checked only a few minutes later it had bounced back so I was able to partially cover at 11 upwards for a very nice risk-free profit - even if a miracle happened I could have covered for a minimal loss in the event Djoko got a later reprieve.

Sadly BF suspended the market and voided the bets shortly after. Waaaahh!!!

Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:33 AM GMT
Clutching but that's a review burned
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:35 AM GMT
did they have any rules in place VV that you know of or are they just winging it ?
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:37 AM GMT
just checking the market unless they've added it in was always a void - so 10 quite a good back I guess...
Report sageform January 16, 2022 8:38 AM GMT
Have the Aus gone soft and decided to let us win one in case we decide that enough is enough and never returnGrin. But if Burns plays on perhaps England will lose after all.
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:38 AM GMT
If a player does not start a tournament then all bets on that player will be void
Report sageform January 16, 2022 8:40 AM GMT
Exactly brentford which is why I greened out when I could and got ridiculed on the Novak thread.
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 8:41 AM GMT
DAMN SHAME
Report brentford January 16, 2022 8:46 AM GMT
take no notice Sage..Grin
Report VardonVoo. January 16, 2022 9:01 AM GMT

Jan 16, 2022 -- 8:37AM, brentford wrote:


just checking the market unless they've added it in was always a void - so 10 quite a good back I guess...


I really should have checked the rules first - my short lay would have been an idiot-bet gift if he'd somehow got re-instated at the eleventh hour - at least I got to trade out just in case. Surprised so much big money was available on the lay side though.

Report brentford January 16, 2022 9:06 AM GMT
there have been a few markets over the years (can't recall the specifics unfortunately) where layers (inflating prices) were on a hiding to nothing in those type of scenarios..would have been a nice free ride green for you though VV...
Report brentford January 16, 2022 9:08 AM GMT
* of course the above view always requires BF to adhere to it's own stated rules...Mischief
Report VardonVoo. January 16, 2022 9:18 AM GMT
I couldn't find his ridiculing chat but sageform would have done all right (hallegedly, hallegedly). I would only have been green if Novak didn't play and the market didn't get voided, otherwise I was planning on covering at the "normal" odds for no loss. It was an impulse bet when I checked the market after hearing the news followed by a lucky trade-out. I'd have been very uncomfortable if the market had traded even lower then stayed open for days whilst a further decision was discussed.
Report brentford January 16, 2022 9:26 AM GMT
Malan plays those half arsed angled bat, back foot defensives a lot...can only think they are a carry over from white ball stuff where the defensive shot is a last resort..'cause they look awful and he's been close to doing that numerous times this series..
Report brentford January 16, 2022 9:33 AM GMT
Eng's two best bats..had a small oz lay..but looking tough against Green especially..
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 9:37 AM GMT
We must continue to show intent or there is no hope.

Head & Green's very rapid, relative monster of a partnership is the only spell of concerted scoring in this match.
Report brentford January 16, 2022 9:40 AM GMT
Green by most fast bowling parameters just starting out...if he stays injury free...Scared
Report brentford January 16, 2022 9:56 AM GMT
two give aways in the game for Stokes...Plain
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 9:57 AM GMT
Stokes is an overrated thug
Report brentford January 16, 2022 9:59 AM GMT
harsh jtb   Grin  ..but probably a bit over rated...
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:04 AM GMT
other than Headingley and Capetown ain't done a lot..capable with the bat(on occasion and getting fewer)

stats bowling wise ain't all that

but other than that a mellow,lovely guy always behaving himself in publicWink
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:06 AM GMT
shame about Zak..guy can play but keeps getting out when in
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:06 AM GMT
just looking at his series stats 236 runs @ 23.6   4 wkts @ 71.5....
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:07 AM GMT
FEC
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:09 AM GMT
can little Joe, supported by his able lieutenants get us over the line?

don't hold your breath but this is a scenario that can define them
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:11 AM GMT
or is 1.3 Oz free money?
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:12 AM GMT
wonder how many threads Pope would have about him on here in a previous era..poor old Belly used to get dog's abuse...
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:13 AM GMT
don't forget to factor in a fluent 23 from Billings JTB Mischief
Report SHROPSHIRELAD January 16, 2022 10:15 AM GMT
Commentators, pundits “experts” I’ve $hit better

Nobody has mentioned the salient point

Yet again we bottled it, won the toss and refused to bat in the Test format

1) shows the opposition that you are frightened of them

2) you CHOOSE to bat last when the pitch should be at its worst (conducive to spin, rough patches etc)

3) you CHOOSE to face “scoreboard pressure”

It’s total lunacy
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:17 AM GMT
did you watch the fist hour of the match SL ?

our line up would have been lucky to get 50...
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:17 AM GMT
it's not inconceivable this is on if joe can get 70/80 and Pope Billings 30/40,Woakes 30 and a few boundaries from the tail but unfortunately unlikely esp giving conditions are quite bowler friendly
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:18 AM GMT
forget my last postGrin
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:19 AM GMT
what a time to get one of them...
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 10:20 AM GMT
Hit. Out.

Head, Green, Labuschagne (& Woakes) are the only runs in the game.
Report SontaranStratagem January 16, 2022 10:25 AM GMT
Another pathetic batting display

Did we actually make 300 in the series?

We got saved last test so technically we did lose five nothing but score is 4-0 again

We’ve pretty much lost 15 tests in a row since 2011 down there if not for rain assistance saving two draws

Mind bending

13 official losses two lucky draws in 3 ashes series past 8 years...
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 10:27 AM GMT
Have to try to take the bowlers out of their line and length, walking wickets otherwise on here.
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:27 AM GMT
we're improving..nil desperandumGrin
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:32 AM GMT
anyhow,for me,great to see these pitches with smth in it for the bowlers and batsmen having to work for their runs

just had a great series between an improving SA vs Kohli's boys

much more intriguing and great cricket imho
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:36 AM GMT
we've turned this round in a hurry...the wrong way.. but still..
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 10:37 AM GMT
Two-an-over since the tenth...
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 10:38 AM GMT
We took foot off before tea and never reasserted ourselves.

At risk of repeating - the *only* runs scored in this match have been run-a-ball type.
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 10:40 AM GMT
Ah well, it was a fun 90 minutes (during which my head was awol so I didn't profit, appropriately)
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:41 AM GMT
wtf is that Ollie ?
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 10:43 AM GMT
Yikes, 25-6 Plain
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:44 AM GMT
bowled middle and leg trying to hit it to fine leg...Whoops
Report SontaranStratagem January 16, 2022 10:47 AM GMT
Crazy

What a cesspool batting unit
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:47 AM GMT
'tis the hope that kills ya.. Wink Happy Plain Cry
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:51 AM GMT
even T20 batters don't get out as quickly as this England test team!
Report cricketnut2 January 16, 2022 10:51 AM GMT
they are obviously coached to bat across the line, as very few play straight and hit the ball, back where it came from. Far too much joke cricket the 100 needs kicking out of the game and just play 20/20. Cricket needs to be played properly, where the bowling side, have to bowl the opposition out, before they can bat. Now the side selected for this tour and I said so at the time, was always going to be way short of what was needed and that is how its proved, especially in the batting line up. Apart from Root and an injured Stokes, the rest was unproven at this level and none have come up to scrath.
Report brentford January 16, 2022 10:53 AM GMT
it's a fitting finish to the series at least...comedy gold ...
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:55 AM GMT
you've got the Women's Ashes coming up

these mofos should be made to play that

but i guess another drubbing would just about tip them over the edge and shatter their collective confidence irretrievably
Report SontaranStratagem January 16, 2022 10:56 AM GMT
147
297
236
192
185
68
294
270
188
8/115

That’s pathetic on these wickets, not even 300 once

Australia haven’t made 500 once and won 4-0 with unlucky not to win 5 zip

Shows how bad we are at the minute
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:56 AM GMT
Zak top scorer with 36 hard held,eased down final furlong!Grin
Report Whisperingdeath January 16, 2022 10:57 AM GMT
Nobody beats this Engerland side 5-0!
Report SontaranStratagem January 16, 2022 10:59 AM GMT
124 to add to those other beauties

Beaten inside 3 days twice Crazy
Report Aptdemon January 16, 2022 10:59 AM GMT
Hope you got your fill of Australia up around evens, WD.

I was too busy getting irrationally excited Cool
Report SontaranStratagem January 16, 2022 11:01 AM GMT
It’s bad when you’ve lost 4-0 to side on autopilot Laugh
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 11:01 AM GMT
last 8 wkts down for 42..does anyone do a collapse quite like this lot?
Report SontaranStratagem January 16, 2022 11:10 AM GMT
We should have just forfeited once the team was announced 3 months ago

I don’t think it matters who you take when their coached that badly as been by others on here
Report SontaranStratagem January 16, 2022 11:15 AM GMT
Scott Boland took 17 wickets in those 3 tests Crazy
Report geordie1956 January 16, 2022 12:28 PM GMT
talk about test cricket losing its appeal ... this series should be the final nail in the coffin if thats as good as we are ... blo0dy awful from beginning to end
Report mafeking January 16, 2022 2:28 PM GMT
only once since the first ever ashes series when i guess the average score was around 100 have we failed to make 300 in the whole series - 1958/59
Report brentford January 16, 2022 2:44 PM GMT
no need for that Mafe' ...Cry
Report Try My Best January 16, 2022 9:20 PM GMT
Well played Australia. Total domination in all aspects of test match cricket. Thought the Pomms had it in them to win one test but they must be the biggest set of spineless cricketers to have ever set foot on our shores. One exception to the rule Mark Wood. He can be very proud of his overall performance. Searing pace and the ball he got Usman out off the gloves was superb. ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIR
Report Ekbalco January 16, 2022 10:02 PM GMT
The worst England team to tour the penal colony.
Report johnnythebull January 16, 2022 10:08 PM GMT
really looking forward to this Ashes series

by all accounts we've had the best ever preparation

and with Silverwood and Root at the helm we look practically invincible

if i were the Aussies i'd be rightly fearful

could well get whitewashed on home soil
Report brentford January 18, 2022 9:11 PM GMT
Some interesting player ratings given by the Guardian at the end of the tour

Anderson 8 wickets @  23.38  was given a 6 Plain
Robinson 12 wickets @ 23.42 was given a  5 Shocked
Report LoyalHoncho January 19, 2022 7:30 PM GMT
Courtesy of the below forumite on the politics forum.

dukeofpuke19 Jan 22 19:03
The English Cricket Board have announced that Novak Djokovic will be their new batting coach they said we know he hasn't any experience in our game but as it took Australia 2 weeks to get him out he is our best option Laugh
Report VardonVoo. January 29, 2022 11:55 PM GMT
The GAshes Test has been a lot more competitive than any of the men's matches - what happens if the girls' Test side starts consistently beating the Aussies? Will people demand eventually the utter humiliation of the men by demanding a multi-Test series for the girls and only a single Test for the men?
Report VardonVoo. January 30, 2022 7:23 AM GMT
Aus traded in the 100s (peaked at 1,000 for pence) then came back down to near evens

England traded into the 100s (peaked at 300) then went as low as 1.07

Draw traded 1.01 then out to 10s+ (peaked of 18)

Result: Match Drawn
Report brentford January 30, 2022 5:01 PM GMT
incredible game...called it a day as wasn't trading it when Beaumont was out and thought any realistic chase was probably done at that point..
great effort to give it a proper go (Eng) even if it did nearly end in tears..
wish I had traded it looking at some of those numbers..
Report Whisperingdeath February 1, 2022 8:59 PM GMT
England U19 v Afghanistan U19

10 runs off 1 legitimate ball including 2 catches, 2 no balls, a change in bowler meaning 2 bowlers bowled the same ball I think. Correction, the sam3 bowler. Commentator git his knickers in a twist there thinking bowler was gawn for 2 successive no balls. The second was above waist height Beamer so confused him. Fir the record the Umpire was a bird and got it right. The commentator was a man and got it wrong, a right Charlie, which, is also his name. 20 odd from the over. Exciting stuff.
Report Whisperingdeath February 1, 2022 9:03 PM GMT
20-run over. The pendulum swings Afghanistan's way. 46-run stand off 27 balls. The game could be decided by a matter of inches. Had Sales had his foot behind the line on the first ball of the over, it's a wicket and Afghanistan are seven down. Instead, it opens the door for another no ball and another free hit and absolute chaos.
43.6
1
Sales to Abdul Hadi, 1 run
Another charge, Sales drags the length back further and Noor taps this to point for one.
43.5
1
Sales to Noor Ahmad, 1 run
Short on the body, pulled flat to deep backward square for one.
43.4
1
Sales to Abdul Hadi, 1 run
Knee high full toss on off, punched gently to mid-off for one.
43.3
6
Sales to Abdul Hadi, SIX runs
What guts! What drama! Length ball on the legs, Hadi charges, doesn't get anywhere near the pitch, just continues with a checked punch but somehow times this daylights out of this to send it sailing over mid-on, who was up in the ring, and clears the rope by 10 yards.
43.2
1
Sales to Noor Ahmad, 1 run
Back of a length on off, goes back to flick this into midwicket for one.
43.1
2
Sales to Noor Ahmad, 2 runs
Length ball on fifth stump, goes for a huge heave and skies this a mile high over midwicket. Prest takes a catch but the ball was in the air forever on the free hit and the Afghan pair alertly run a sharp two.
Duncan : "7 ball over this time ". Make it 8!

The umpires have conferred and more extraordinary drama. Sales is being allowed to continue bowling because the ball was wide enough outside the stumps to be deemed not dangerous bowling and so he is allowed to continue!
43.1
5n-b
Sales to Noor Ahmad, (no ball) 4 byes
No ball over chest height on sixth stump, Noor swings through it and the keeper flubs the take letting it go through to the rope for five no balls! It's his second no ball over chest height as well! He bowled one in his opening spell. So Sales has to come out of the attack! Incredible drama!
43.1
3nb
Sales to Noor Ahmad, (no ball) 2 runs
Short ball outside off, skies a pull over point and a catch is taken... but Jacqueline Williams has her arm out to signal a no ball! And Afghanistan alertly keep running while England is too busy celebrating! Thomas took a simple catch and flicked the ball away while his teammates swarmed in. Initial replays look like he had indeed overstepped and it is further confirmed by the third umpire.
Report Whisperingdeath February 1, 2022 9:10 PM GMT
But....2 wickets in the penultimate over
Report Whisperingdeath February 1, 2022 9:11 PM GMT
3 wickets
Report Whisperingdeath February 1, 2022 9:11 PM GMT
and still 1 ball to go in the over!
Report Whisperingdeath February 1, 2022 9:13 PM GMT
a reverse sweep over midwicket for a single!

18 to win off 6.

9 wickets down!
Report Whisperingdeath February 1, 2022 9:19 PM GMT
England scored 18 runs off their last 5 balls. Afghanistan got 2 and that was the difference. England won by 16 runs
Report brentford February 2, 2022 3:06 PM GMT
Thought we'd blown it with that over you reference,
phenomenal job by Boyden to go for only 4 in the 45th over to get us back in it and then a mix of some fortunate stuff (long hop caught on the boundary that should have been clearing the rope) and some good stuff from Rehan Ahmed (certainly bowls a good googly but way too many half trackers from him on the day)..in the end the scoreboard looks reasonably comfortable but was anything but..

still first U-19's final since 1998 so big credit to the lads...
Report Whisperingdeath February 2, 2022 3:21 PM GMT
India batting looking good and Aussie bowling looking ordinary ( thank the fceking lard! ) so some hope for us in the future. Aussie do not have a fast bowler at this level which is a little surprising.
Report Whisperingdeath February 2, 2022 9:13 PM GMT
The batting and bowling coaches need to go as well as the Head Coach. The King of Spain cannot be the sole sacrificial.
Report Try My Best February 3, 2022 12:07 AM GMT
Clutching at straws again WD. You don't quite fathom the winning mentality the Aussies have. If you think we will be uncompetitive in the years ahead think again. It's not in our nature.
Report Try My Best February 3, 2022 12:09 AM GMT
Gutted to see Giles go. A proverbial loser if I ever saw one.
Report Whisperingdeath February 3, 2022 5:26 AM GMT
I have seen 3 Australian Cricket Captains cry on TV and other players do the same. It is in your nature although I understand taking a bath is not.
Report Try My Best February 4, 2022 6:43 PM GMT
So easy to make you bite or should I say nibble. Proverbial losers Giles, Silverwood and Thorpe and I would put you in that category as well.English cricket in disarray and will now try to get Langer/Ponting to rescue your sorry asses. It doesn't get much better than this. Great slagging off of the aussies this last 6 months and your judgement is as good as the PM. I know you love cricket, you just know nothing about the game.
Report Whisperingdeath February 5, 2022 11:40 AM GMT
Unlike an Australian I will not cry over your bitter and twisted seethe. The only people you hate more than the English are yourselves, quite rightly. Carry on crying convictWink
Report LoyalHoncho February 7, 2022 8:45 AM GMT
TMB that is some five star putdown.  Love  Followed by the limpest and most feeble retort I have recently seen on here.  Laugh
Report Try My Best February 8, 2022 6:48 PM GMT
LaughLaughLaughHe's a good lad really LoyalHoncho. He hates the Aussies and is obviously bleeding from the pocket after the Ashes and T20 results. Everybody entitled to their views and that's ok with me. He thinks I hate the Pomms, how untrue I married one.
Report LoyalHoncho February 11, 2022 7:23 PM GMT
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