Is there any point in playing the final? Just save everybody the time and effort….

not sure it was as big as you suggest in the SF's - the dew didn't really effect either game and both chasing sides were all but beaten at one point..

End t20. It has destroyed cricket. Stupid joke of a game with an england captain who refuses to sing the national anthem!!!

and players that are hopeless in real cricket

Dew does have some affect but it seems to be as much the team batting first just doesn't know (or hasn't until this point) what a very good score is so aim for about 160 and all the team batting second has to do is hang in there until the 15th over and bash it if needed. I'm not even sure i'll bother watching but will see who wins the toss who will obv bat 2nd. i'll then stick a couple of backs at ever silly prices and hopefully they get matched as the team batting first posts a score about 170. It's just a shame that neither of these teams are playing the best atm. Even without the toss advantage I think there is a case for the  group winners in a 3 final scenario in this comp in the future

England were not the second best team. They had every chance and came up short, losing their last two games. They relied too heavily on Buttler getting the big score. They couldn't find anyone else to do something similar. On the day the two winners found players to turn the game, England didn't.

On the day

there you have it -but over the course of the comp are seriously arguing that the favs - aus - are better than england after the shellacking they got? anyway it really doesn't matter who the best 2 teams are my point stands for any t20 comp like this, 4 weeks to find the best teams then it's basically over at the coin toss and watch 2 sub par teams battle it out.

look at the price graph after the toss!

Agreed. The Aussies have won the toss 6 times out of 7 and chosen to bat 2nd every time. The one time they lost the toss, they were absolutely slaughtered by England.

steady start from NZ, maybe too steady?

expensive over and a dropped catch changes the odds a bit

then a 2nd wicket.

absolutely nailed on Guptill gets out again when in

absolute waste of space

a couple of 6's and Aus go out to 1.86

KW fantastic player..not really suited to this format of the game naturally but finds a way to adapt..absolute diamond

Oz 1.36 > 2.0

2.34 now, crikey!

Aus could do with a wicket

Universe Boss Kane

I love test cricket but how any real cricket lover can denigrate T20 is beyond me

ebbs and flows,just look at the 2 semis here and this match from a dilatory start by NZ to pedal to the metal

Game totally changed on that Hazelwood drop.

aus needed that

needed that even more

big jimmy needs to replicate his semi inns now

run out?

no

should NZ be favourites now? or is 170 or thereabouts gettable for Aus?

only 5 off the 18th,9 off that last halted the run flow,may it prove the difference?

even tho' the pitch is drier unless Oz are like 3 down for 40 odd

you'd still have them as slight faves

cheers, johnny

Finch bottled that

couple more of them marsh, and it's game on again

a few boundaries and it's 1.38 Aus, thank gawd for that.

1.23 Aus

Such a boring tourny 99% of matches decided by the toss zzzzzzz

still plenty of variance in the prices, though. NZ were strong favs towards the end of their innings.

Saying that NZ have bowled awful

Warner out

do not get out now Mitch b4 u get another 8 runs my man

much tighter over and a wicket

big 6

very expensive over from NZ, Aus 1.13

Sodhi 3 wides in 1 over

Santner and Sodhi were always going to be the weak link..absolute dogsh1te

NZ were as low as 1.52 at one point, That knock from Williamson has given us some very nice prices on Australia.

Marsh has been on it this tournie

run a ball with 4 overs to go and 8 wkts in hand..Oz may struggle to get over the line here

have u nicked a few bob on this Des?

yes johnny, thanks for your input.

wasn't brave enough to really go for it at 2.4 or so, but still. happy with 110 quid or so.

hope you won too.

despite the detractors i've really enjoyed this tournie

pitches that have given bowlers a chance and different total scores

the records DO support batting 2nd has delivered an egregiously high % of wins

but ignore the fact that a fair few matches were very close

despite the final outcome

yes, it's been pretty good for betting. I'm a casual when it comes to cricket. but there has been profit to be made if you read the swings and judge the patterns reasonably well.

I thought NZ had a above average score but batting 2nd was key Australia got the win so so easy

There you go, at halfway comms and market thought the NZ score more than competitive but if they'd have got another 30 I'm not sure it would've been enough. The way Nz took eng apart in the final 5 I think they would have done the same and chased it down. I've quite enjoyed the tourney but the semi's and final have been disappointing, though i can see how people have made a bit of dosh. Unfortunately aus got nowhere near the price I was gong to back them at so that doesn't include me!

There you go, at halfway comms and market thought the NZ score more than competitive but if they'd have got another 30 I'm not sure it would've been enough. The way Nz took eng apart in the final 5 I think they would have done the same and chased it down. I've quite enjoyed the tourney but the semi's and final have been disappointing, though i can see how people have made a bit of dosh. Unfortunately aus got nowhere near the price I was gong to back them at so that doesn't include me!