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spyker
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…and stop everything after the coin toss? The 2 best teams are clearly Pakistan and England (prob in that order) and it isn’t hard to imagine completely different results with different coin tosses. I suspect historically the toss winners have a slight advantage in all form but in international t20s abroad it seems to be a marked advantage (for whatever reasons).
You could do away with the semis and have the 2 group winners play in a best of 3 (toss for first match, loser of toss chooses in second and toss for final game if needed) or something similar.
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Report brentford November 11, 2021 5:50 PM GMT
not sure it was as big as you suggest in the SF's - the dew didn't really effect either game and both chasing sides were all but beaten at one point..
Report Celtic warrior November 12, 2021 7:20 PM GMT
End t20. It has destroyed cricket. Stupid joke of a game with an england captain who refuses to sing the national anthem!!!
Report elisjohn November 12, 2021 8:53 PM GMT
and players that are hopeless in real cricket
Report spyker November 14, 2021 11:51 AM GMT
Dew does have some affect but it seems to be as much the team batting first just doesn't know (or hasn't until this point) what a very good score is so aim for about 160 and all the team batting second has to do is hang in there until the 15th over and bash it if needed. I'm not even sure i'll bother watching but will see who wins the toss who will obv bat 2nd. i'll then stick a couple of backs at ever silly prices and hopefully they get matched as the team batting first posts a score about 170. It's just a shame that neither of these teams are playing the best atm. Even without the toss advantage I think there is a case for the  group winners in a 3 final scenario in this comp in the future
Report differentdrum November 14, 2021 12:52 PM GMT
England were not the second best team. They had every chance and came up short, losing their last two games. They relied too heavily on Buttler getting the big score. They couldn't find anyone else to do something similar. On the day the two winners found players to turn the game, England didn't.
Report spyker November 14, 2021 1:12 PM GMT
On the day

there you have it -but over the course of the comp are seriously arguing that the favs - aus - are better than england after the shellacking they got? anyway it really doesn't matter who the best 2 teams are my point stands for any t20 comp like this, 4 weeks to find the best teams then it's basically over at the coin toss and watch 2 sub par teams battle it out.
Report spyker November 14, 2021 1:33 PM GMT
look at the price graph after the toss!
Report Whatoddswouldyoulike November 14, 2021 1:54 PM GMT
Agreed. The Aussies have won the toss 6 times out of 7 and chosen to bat 2nd every time. The one time they lost the toss, they were absolutely slaughtered by England.
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 2:41 PM GMT
steady start from NZ, maybe too steady?
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 2:51 PM GMT
expensive over and a dropped catch changes the odds a bit
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 2:51 PM GMT
then a 2nd wicket. Excited
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 2:52 PM GMT
absolutely nailed on Guptill gets out again when in

absolute waste of space
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:00 PM GMT
a couple of 6's and Aus go out to 1.86
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 3:03 PM GMT
KW fantastic player..not really suited to this format of the game naturally but finds a way to adapt..absolute diamond
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 3:11 PM GMT
Oz 1.36 > 2.0
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:14 PM GMT
2.34 now, crikey!
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:15 PM GMT
Aus could do with a wicket
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 3:15 PM GMT
Universe Boss KaneGrin
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 3:18 PM GMT
I love test cricket but how any real cricket lover can denigrate T20 is beyond me

ebbs and flows,just look at the 2 semis here and this match from a dilatory start by NZ to pedal to the metal
Report Latalomne November 14, 2021 3:20 PM GMT
Game totally changed on that Hazelwood drop.
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:23 PM GMT
aus needed that
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:26 PM GMT
needed that even more
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 3:27 PM GMT
big jimmy needs to replicate his semi inns now
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:33 PM GMT
run out?
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:33 PM GMT
no
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:39 PM GMT
should NZ be favourites now? or is 170 or thereabouts gettable for Aus?
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 3:43 PM GMT
only 5 off the 18th,9 off that last halted the run flow,may it prove the difference?

even tho' the pitch is drier unless Oz are like 3 down for 40 odd

you'd still have them as slight faves
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 3:54 PM GMT
cheers, johnny
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 4:01 PM GMT
Finch bottled that
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:07 PM GMT
couple more of them marsh, and it's game on again
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:30 PM GMT
a few boundaries and it's 1.38 Aus, thank gawd for that. Happy
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:40 PM GMT
1.23 Aus
Report jackkat November 14, 2021 4:42 PM GMT
Such a boring tourny 99% of matches decided by the toss zzzzzzz
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:45 PM GMT
still plenty of variance in the prices, though. NZ were strong favs towards the end of their innings.
Report jackkat November 14, 2021 4:48 PM GMT
Saying that NZ have bowled awful
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:48 PM GMT
Warner out
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 4:49 PM GMT
do not get out now Mitch b4 u get another 8 runs my man
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:51 PM GMT
much tighter over and a wicket
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:52 PM GMT
big 6
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:55 PM GMT
very expensive over from NZ, Aus 1.13
Report jackkat November 14, 2021 4:56 PM GMT
Sodhi 3 wides in 1 over
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 4:56 PM GMT
Santner and Sodhi were always going to be the weak link..absolute dogsh1te
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 4:59 PM GMT
NZ were as low as 1.52 at one point, That knock from Williamson has given us some very nice prices on Australia.
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 5:04 PM GMT
Marsh has been on it this tournie
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 5:09 PM GMT
run a ball with 4 overs to go and 8 wkts in hand..Oz may struggle to get over the line here
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 5:10 PM GMT
Laugh
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 5:12 PM GMT
have u nicked a few bob on this Des?
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 5:13 PM GMT
yes johnny, thanks for your input. Happy
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 5:15 PM GMT
wasn't brave enough to really go for it at 2.4 or so, but still. happy with 110 quid or so.
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 5:17 PM GMT
hope you won too.
Report johnnythebull November 14, 2021 5:18 PM GMT
despite the detractors i've really enjoyed this tournie

pitches that have given bowlers a chance and different total scores

the records DO support batting 2nd has delivered an egregiously high % of wins

but ignore the fact that a fair few matches were very close

despite the final outcome
Report Des Pond November 14, 2021 5:24 PM GMT
yes, it's been pretty good for betting. I'm a casual when it comes to cricket. but there has been profit to be made if you read the swings and judge the patterns reasonably well.
Report jackkat November 14, 2021 5:30 PM GMT
I thought NZ had a above average score but batting 2nd was key Australia got the win so so easy
Report spyker November 14, 2021 7:06 PM GMT
There you go, at halfway comms and market thought the NZ score more than competitive but if they'd have got another 30 I'm not sure it would've been enough. The way Nz took eng apart in the final 5 I think they would have done the same and chased it down. I've quite enjoyed the tourney but the semi's and final have been disappointing, though i can see how people have made a bit of dosh. Unfortunately aus got nowhere near the price I was gong to back them at so that doesn't include me!
Report spyker November 14, 2021 7:06 PM GMT
There you go, at halfway comms and market thought the NZ score more than competitive but if they'd have got another 30 I'm not sure it would've been enough. The way Nz took eng apart in the final 5 I think they would have done the same and chased it down. I've quite enjoyed the tourney but the semi's and final have been disappointing, though i can see how people have made a bit of dosh. Unfortunately aus got nowhere near the price I was gong to back them at so that doesn't include me!
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