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Puzzman
21 Dec 19 04:50
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The Cricket forum on Reddit thinks there a good chance the first game will be called off due to the bushfires/air quality.

https://www.sydneythunder.com.au/news/update-thunder-strikers-match-canberra/2019-12-21

Suggests it a possibility - no market for completed match yet but will be keeping an eye on it
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Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 6:23 AM GMT
In Super Smash news

Massive grubbing

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1.05    $62        $29,954

Otago need 6 of the last over, and lost 2 wickets and lose by 2 runs.
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 6:29 AM GMT
Right on the thunder but pissed about that Super Smash game took a red - stop watching thinking it was in the bag 3 overs ago...
Report BJT December 21, 2019 7:12 AM GMT
Got no vision ffs
Report BJT December 21, 2019 7:36 AM GMT
Audio about 10 seconds behind by the sounds. Odds bang on with what I have so no position at the moment.
Report BJT December 21, 2019 7:53 AM GMT
Small lay Strikers 2.76.
Report BJT December 21, 2019 7:57 AM GMT
Got them tracking 134 atm.
Report BJT December 21, 2019 8:39 AM GMT
Think they are 20+ short here.
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 8:43 AM GMT
cant beleive that backed 160+ at 2.4 then covered with what i thought was 152.5+ on line market only to find out that i backed under 152.5, buggerrrr ended up with just 80p profit
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:03 AM GMT
4444!
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:10 AM GMT
anyone got a DWL calculator?
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:15 AM GMT
Jezz you could have finished the over before going off
Report BJT December 21, 2019 9:16 AM GMT
unreal. What fcukwits.
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:17 AM GMT
looks like visibility issues - square leg umpire couldn't see the ball being bowled
Report BJT December 21, 2019 9:18 AM GMT
My calc says 33 target 5 overs. No idea how accurate that is.
Report BJT December 21, 2019 9:19 AM GMT
Sorry, 1 wicket down 36
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 9:20 AM GMT
anyone know what happens to 2nd innings 6 overs line, im on 45+, i guess they will count even if they lose 5-6 overs
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:20 AM GMT
the one I was using said the same thing, in fact for two wickets it was saying 42
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:20 AM GMT
"For clarification in the event that the batting team does not complete their 6 overs which includes the batting side reaching their target within 6 overs, all bets will be void except if the batting team have been bowled out. This market must be determined in full for us to settle and this would mean all 6 overs being complete."
Report BJT December 21, 2019 9:21 AM GMT
I just don't understand the rules here.

We get a 5 over game, the target is 33-35 or so. The chasing team doesn't keep batting 5 overs, they bat until they pass the score.

So if there is no more play, really this should be a game, as they have the 5 over target so don't need to bat the balls.
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:21 AM GMT
You need 6 overs bowled, might be an issue if the game is reduced to 6-7 overs target might be under 45
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 9:22 AM GMT
20 overs for one side + 5 overs for side batting 2nd is a game
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 9:24 AM GMT
even if it is reduced puzzman to say 6-7 overs i guess there has to be 6 overs bowled for the bet to stand
Report BJT December 21, 2019 9:24 AM GMT

Dec 21, 2019 -- 9:22AM, lord skywalker wrote:


20 overs for one side + 5 overs for side batting 2nd is a game


Yes, but lets say there is 60 minutes lost here. That is 15 overs.

Then we have a 5 over game, the target becomes 35.

They don't come out to bat, because they already have that.

Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 9:24 AM GMT
otherwise a void bet
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 9:25 AM GMT
void game then
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:26 AM GMT

Dec 21, 2019 -- 9:24AM, lord skywalker wrote:


even if it is reduced puzzman to say 6-7 overs i guess there has to be 6 overs bowled for the bet to stand


yeah just reread the rules - you are correct

Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 9:26 AM GMT
the umpire clearly said there has to be 5 overs bowled in 2nd innings for the match to stand
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 9:27 AM GMT
cheers puzzman
Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:29 AM GMT
Backed Melbourne in the second game - forgot there was an overlap
Report BJT December 21, 2019 9:30 AM GMT

Dec 21, 2019 -- 9:26AM, lord skywalker wrote:


the umpire clearly said there has to be 5 overs bowled in 2nd innings for the match to stand


Not sure you are understanding.

Scenario.
Team A bats 20 overs, then it rains. Duckworth Lewis applies, game reduced to a 7 over game, target is 60 runs.

Team B comes out to chase, after 4 overs and 3 balls, they have made 62 runs.

Do they keep going, or is the game over because they have reached the target? Surely the game is not void because they didn't bat 5 overs?

Report Puzzman December 21, 2019 9:33 AM GMT
Yeah its a weird one - basically if condition improve enough to get 5 overs in Thunder should win automatically...
Report Darlo Bantam December 21, 2019 10:08 AM GMT
That happened a few years ago (I think) where they went out to basically bowl one delivery in order for a result to stand as one team had essentially already won it. Think it was quite controversial decision; and if memory serves correct 1.01 was busted on CMM.
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:12 AM GMT
the umpire said if they dont get 5 overs in for the 2nd innings currently on 4.2 overs the match doesnt stand and with 1015 the cut off i would imagine all chance has now gone, D/L will only come into play if they get 5 overs bowled in 2nd innings
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:15 AM GMT
forget about D/L if 5 overs havent been bowled
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:18 AM GMT
"Surely the game is not void because they didn't bat 5 overs?"

there has to be 5 overs min in 2nd innings for the match to stand, if they dont bat 5 overs its void
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:19 AM GMT
voided
Report BJT December 21, 2019 10:20 AM GMT

Dec 21, 2019 -- 10:15AM, lord skywalker wrote:


forget about D/L if 5 overs havent been bowled


Surely if play clears up between innings, a 5 over game is declared, duckworth lewis revised target, team b chases and doesn't have to bat 5 overs, they just need to reach the target. No?

Report hunt lunt and cunningham December 21, 2019 10:22 AM GMT
Everyone seems to forget that Strickers could have taken wickets in the last 4 balls and then they would of won
Report BJT December 21, 2019 10:27 AM GMT

Dec 21, 2019 -- 10:22AM, hunt lunt and cunningham wrote:


Everyone seems to forget that Strickers could have taken wickets in the last 4 balls and then they would of won


No, because there would have been a target regardless of wickets. No?

Report BJT December 21, 2019 10:29 AM GMT
They needed to be 1/34 if the game was called off. If they went off and there was a 5 over game declared, the target would have been 39 with wickets no longer relevant as they would be calculated into the target.
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:41 AM GMT
i dont know what you dont understand, if 5 overs havent been bowled in the chasing teams innings its declared void, forget about everything else including D/L, if 5 overs havent been bowled in 2nd innings its void
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:43 AM GMT
why are youu still going on about D/L , it doesnt come into the equation, if 5 overs havent been bowled its void, didnt you see the thunder batsmen arguing that they wanted to stay on for another 4 balls, they are the rules of T20
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:45 AM GMT
i know its annoying but it is what it is, if you had a losing bet you would be glad it was void, i had a bet on 6 overs 45+ and they needed 5 off 10 but i got my stake back, just one of those things
Report BJT December 21, 2019 10:45 AM GMT
You seem to be the only one that has mentioned it in the last 15 minutes.

And I was asking questions that you don't appear to be able to comprehend in a manner to answer them.
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:46 AM GMT
but none of what you said was ever going to happen
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:48 AM GMT
they need to be 1/34 if d/l was applied and if 5 overs had been bowled which it hadnt so void bet
Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:51 AM GMT
i totally understand what youre saying but once they went off it was always gonna be a struggle to get back on, another 4 balls and we wouldve had a result but thats life  im afraid
Report BJT December 21, 2019 10:51 AM GMT

Dec 21, 2019 -- 10:48AM, lord skywalker wrote:


they need to be 1/34 if d/l was applied and if 5 overs had been bowled which it hadnt so void bet


Why are you still going on about it?

What I questioned, was that if it were declared a 5 over game, the target would be 39 runs and would be a game regardless if they batted 5 overs or not. The game would be over as soon as the target was reached.

As such, I think the rule is stupid.

That was my point. Unsure what is so difficult to comprehend about that.

Report lord skywalker December 21, 2019 10:55 AM GMT
pointless
Report Smokey7 December 21, 2019 10:59 AM GMT
I bet Ferguson and Hale in the top batsmen market. My Ferguson bet was voided and my Hales bet was treated as a loser - surely both bets should be void.
Report Smokey7 December 21, 2019 11:00 AM GMT
Either that or Ferguson should be a winner if they are accepting that there was a result in the game
Report BJT December 21, 2019 11:38 AM GMT
Diamond duck in a 21 run partnership off 5 balls. :)
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