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By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 09 Sep 19 12:18
Good decision from the selectors. Reward the players for their skill and consistency.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 09 Sep 19 12:54
The mind boggles Crazy
By:
detraveller
When: 09 Sep 19 13:00
Please, not another England selection rant threat.

The team has been pathetic in their selection for over 5 years now. They just won a world cup with an attitude that any decent cricketer wouldnt dare say in public. No one should be surprised that they will continue to be pathetic in their team selections and attitudes. Yet after every game we have to complain about it Cry

Was reading cricbuzz during the test and even they were making fun of farbrabce and root.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 09 Sep 19 13:36
Pretty shocking if true
By:
Injera
When: 09 Sep 19 16:29
Root's denial continues. After the Ireland 85 all out he said the pitch was substandard.

He conveniently forgot the 58 all out in NZ and the 77 all out in the Windies. No surprise then that England got bowled out for 67 and other low scores.

His team can't bat. They choose to stay in their crease and wave the bat, ignorant of basic technique.
By:
Angoose
When: 09 Sep 19 16:45
The Oval Test, which begins on Thursday, will be Trevor Bayliss' final assignment as England head coach.

England have not lost a home Ashes series since 2001 and have not lost a series to any touring side since 2014.

All-rounder Ben Stokes will be assessed over his fitness to bowl after struggling with a shoulder problem.

If Stokes is unable to bowl he is expected to play as a specialist batsman, with Chris Woakes or Sam Curran coming in to the side.
By:
Injera
When: 09 Sep 19 18:03
George Dobell writes well:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27571263/england-not-good-think-are
By:
Richie_Burnett
When: 09 Sep 19 18:25
I didn't realise that jucel69 had a ticket for the 4th testCry

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/49631844
By:
cool_hand_luke
When: 09 Sep 19 19:03
England @ 2.66, thats skinny considering they have been outplayed throughout the series barring a few heroics normally reserved for Hollywood. The Australian bowling attack is so strong they are able to rotate, rested and come back fired up, while England who have actually done alright look like a tired and jaded unit. Weather permitting anything above evens for Australia looks decent,  although likely to trade higher for the trading gods at some point.
By:
Charlie
When: 09 Sep 19 20:44
I'd just wait and see who bats first and then back them.
By:
mafeking
When: 09 Sep 19 20:50
guess it depends how many sherberts they've had the last couple of days and it's been a very long tour especially for those involved in the world cup. might not be easy to raise themselves again now the main task is accomplished and the plane home is revving up on the runway

suppose it's understandable england have gone with the same players again. better to let the new coach start with a clean slate in new zealand with players he wants rather than making changes for one match
By:
elisjohn
When: 09 Sep 19 21:42
i think theres a hell of a different when you look back in years, " we retained the ashes but only drew the series, and we won the series. Ithink these aussies will be all out to win imo, i would
By:
Injera
When: 09 Sep 19 21:47
Haven't won here since 2001. Pretty sure they'll be fired up come Thursday.
By:
tomtimtum
When: 09 Sep 19 22:03
Aus batting first, just wait for both of their openers to get out and back them.
England batting first just back Aus!
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 09 Sep 19 23:09
Why not

Its obvious changes are needed but we're in the opposite way of thinking compared to the 90s where we chopped and changed when sticking with them long enough might have been a better option

Roy, Denly, Bairstow and Buttler simply aren't test standard but its a case of we'll keep doing what we do and it might get better

We need to win to rescue some pride, draw the series and its a case of "we didn't win the urn back but they didn't beat us", defending a long streak of them not winning over here needs to be fought for

But I highly doubt this lot give a f*** about that record anyway so expecting a loss and 3-1, revenge for 2010/11 and against an awful Australian side to boot.
By:
Angoose
When: 10 Sep 19 08:49
ason Roy’s Test future hangs on whether Ben Stokes passes a fitness test on his injured right shoulder this week.

If Stokes is unable to bowl in the fifth Test he will play as a specialist batsman with Roy stepping aside for one of the two reserve all-rounders in the squad to come into the final XI.

Sam Curran or Chris Woakes will take on the all-rounder’s role and Stokes will bat at no 4, the spot currently held by Roy, if a scan on his shoulder Tuesday shows any significant damage beyond wear and tear caused by a busy summer.

There is a scenario where both Curran and Woakes play. One could come in for Roy, the other for Craig Overton, who performed doggedly at Old Trafford but is unlikely to be a matchwinner with either ball or bat in Test cricket.
By:
detraveller
When: 10 Sep 19 13:00
Would it be right to say that the aus price has a Smith century prices in? What happens when Smith fails?
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 Sep 19 13:43
anybody else having problems on their betfair ashes correct score market, its been fine since sunday but today ( sounds silly) butmy p/l changes every so often, and my 2-2 scoreline disappears . Confused i have phoned betfair but whats the point, i just wonder if someone else noticed on their market.ps 2 mins ago my pl on england showed +322  and no bets showing on matched bets on 2-2, now its back ok as it  it should be, this has been happening all morning.
By:
johnnyrant
When: 10 Sep 19 16:44
If Eng selectors have any sense, they will drop Roy and play both Woakes (replacing Overton) and Curran, given Stokes injury. This would also allow Buttler to finally bat in a sensible position in the middle order - 5 or 6, presumably 6 with Bairstow at 5. Eng have an excellent test record when Curran plays.

A lot of chat now about how the Aussies have comfortably outplayed Eng for the entire series. Can't agree with that. Smith's batting has clearly been the difference between the 2 sides but after that there's little in it.

Eng would have won at Lord's but for the rain interuption, so it would be 2-2 now. Yes, it also required Stokes' heroics to win at Headingley but Eng won the game, fair and square. Aussies have also been helped winning 3 of 4 tosses, esp. the toss at Old Trafford. Granted, the Aussie bowling attack has a bit more consistency but Eng have had to make do without the leading all-time, fast bowling test wicket taker. A shame we never got to see Anderson bowling at Smith.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 10 Sep 19 16:57
I think the two sides are extremely well matched. Aus have 4 frontline bowlers even though Lyon has not been bowling well. England have 2 at present. Take Smith out and both teams average about 26-27. Luck with weather deserted England at times. They were very lucky against India.

England have not addressed their batting issues. Their bowlers are capable of taking 20 wickets in a match. They have no plan to deal with Smith.

Again I say with the new ball try and get him to nick off. As the ball softens have a 6:3 split legside field. Bowl top of off as the stock delivery and mix it up with yorkers and short bodyline. Change pace, length and angle of delivery.

One key is to make it harder for Smith to score his legside runs so pack the field in those areas and introduce danger into the shot with a legslip / gully and a short midwicket. Have a square leg, long leg, deep backward and deep midwicket to prevents leg side 4's. One area he does score well is through extra cover. Stop the supply by not giving him any width outside off with an older ball.

Feel sorry for Curran and Foakes. Is Woakes injured? Why did he not bowl more?
By:
trader pj
When: 10 Sep 19 17:44
I am sorry but I am backing Australia at 2.1 I think that its a huge price , ENgland are depressed the Draw is a non-runner it is a one trade match imo I hope to sit on my hands for 4 or 5 days
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 10 Sep 19 18:19
Do you know what the pitch is doing, do you know what the weather is doing, do you know who will win the toss?

Good luck with your bet!
By:
sewter lives again
When: 10 Sep 19 18:36
dead rubbers can seriously damage your wealth
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 Sep 19 18:59
doesnt seem theres any rain predicted in this test.is it sunday youre going whispering?
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 Sep 19 19:01
austaralia will not want a drawn series, mentally tougher, i dont really think englash players care win/ draw / or lose as long as they try and get personal glory
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 10 Sep 19 19:26
I got tickets in the OCS stand behind the bowlers arm for Monday.

I went 4 years ago I think it was when cry baby Clarke called for the light when fielding!

Great day out. I love watching cricket and I love drinking! It will be a good day whatever. Tickets are nearly all sold out now I think there must be a few available.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 10 Sep 19 19:26
Archer was mazing at Lords. Hope we get a hard fast wicket!
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 Sep 19 19:30
yes i read your posts re lords, i just hope that youll get the 5th day in this test.
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 Sep 19 19:33
i was watching the sri lanka test last week, and galle looks a fabulous place, i mentioned to jucel, hes been and says its fab.Love to visit for hols and cricket
By:
sageform
When: 10 Sep 19 19:39
How can they play Stokes if he can't bowl and not remove another batter in favour of an all rounder? No chance with only 4 fit bowlers.
By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 10 Sep 19 20:14

Sep 10, 2019 -- 2:49AM, Angoose wrote:


ason Roy’s Test future hangs on whether Ben Stokes passes a fitness test on his injured right shoulder this week.If Stokes is unable to bowl in the fifth Test he will play as a specialist batsman with Roy stepping aside for one of the two reserve all-rounders in the squad to come into the final XI.Sam Curran or Chris Woakes will take on the all-rounder’s role and Stokes will bat at no 4, the spot currently held by Roy, if a scan on his shoulder Tuesday shows any significant damage beyond wear and tear caused by a busy summer.There is a scenario where both Curran and Woakes play. One could come in for Roy, the other for Craig Overton, who performed doggedly at Old Trafford but is unlikely to be a matchwinner with either ball or bat in Test cricket.


Perfect opportunity here to drop Roy and Overton and bring in both Curran and Woakes surely?

Why not try out Curran in the all rounder role and Woakes can concentrate entirely on his bowling

By:
SontaranStratagem
When: 10 Sep 19 20:19

Sep 10, 2019 -- 1:26PM, Whisperingdeath wrote:


I got tickets in the OCS stand behind the bowlers arm for Monday.I went 4 years ago I think it was when cry baby Clarke called for the light when fielding!Great day out. I love watching cricket and I love drinking! It will be a good day whatever. Tickets are nearly all sold out now I think there must be a few available.


This is why I was calling for our batsman to complain about the light the other day but they didn't Cry

They might have got off if they kicked up a stink, but they'd have been brought back on regardless because the light improved towards 6pm

By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 10 Sep 19 20:22
I think Tom went to Galle
By:
elisjohn
When: 10 Sep 19 21:24
yes jucel mentioned that tom had been, as a kid i always wanted to go to taunton especially to watch viv, never got there though, also canterbury  was a place i wanted to go, is the tree still there?
By:
Angoose
When: 11 Sep 19 15:19
Jason Roy and Craig Overton have been dropped from the England team for the fifth Ashes Test at The Oval, with Sam Curran and Chris Woakes coming in.
Ben Stokes, unfit to bowl because of a shoulder injury, will play as a specialist batsman.

Root said Stokes' injury had prompted Roy's omissions because the "balance" of the side needed to change.

"Jason's the unfortunate one to miss out," said Root. "He's had an opportunity to come in and play Test cricket, get a feel for it, and it's not quite gone how he would have liked."

Of Stokes, he said: "He might be able to bowl a couple of overs here and there, but his batting, as this series has shown, is a massive part of our side and he rightly deserves to be in this team as just a batter, and a top-four batter.

"So he will I'm sure want to find different ways of getting himself into the game, even if it's not with the ball."

England team for fifth Ashes Test: Joe Root (c), Jofra Archer, Jonny Bairstow (wk), Stuart Broad, Rory Burns, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Joe Denly, Jack Leach, Ben Stokes, Chris Woakes
By:
Injera
When: 11 Sep 19 15:42
I would say Overton was the unforturnate one Joseph. You called him up for 1 test match. He bowled well, ecomomical and got Lasagne and Paine out.

He then showed great skill and heart to get us close to saving the match.

In contrast Roy was a very poor selection from the start.
By:
wondersobright
When: 11 Sep 19 16:09
woakes should never have been dropped for overton & curran should have played a part much earlier in the series
been saying it all series
too late now

don't have a problem with them dropping roy but the likes of bairstow & buttler have just as many question marks over their place imo
all the criticism of roy has done both of them a massive favour as its deflected from their own longstanding red ball problems
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Sep 19 17:37
Weather set fair?

Anyone seen the pitch? Usually a good batting surface. Brown and flat. Is it dry though?

Light fading into September

I might fancy the draw but for the shallow batting on offer Smith excepted!

I think up front Aus lay is a good starting point before the toss.
By:
Whisperingdeath
When: 11 Sep 19 17:38
I think the lime tree is down and out at at Canterbury, sorry to say!
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