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11 Oct 15 23:06
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Pakistan unbeaten in the 7 Tests played here (3 draws), and have made some big scores.

I don't see England breaking that pattern, and this is an England lay, as the draw could be a runner if Pak bat first.
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Report mayburydrr October 17, 2015 2:34 PM BST
umpires need a ****g word. this is a ****g test match ffs not a t20
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:34 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:34PM, mayburydrr wrote:


umpires need a ****g word. this is a ****g test match ffs not a t20


umpires enjoying englands play

Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:35 PM BST
44444 more
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:35 PM BST
this is some game back to 13/8e v 8/13d againShocked
Report FredRescue October 17, 2015 2:35 PM BST
England should have batted like this last night instead of blocking around imo
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:35 PM BST
england in touching distance now Grin
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:36 PM BST
mighty mighty england Crazy
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:36 PM BST
a 15 run over now would be a killer for draw backer
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:37 PM BST
Another flip.
Report FredRescue October 17, 2015 2:37 PM BST
Lol nice fielding
Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:37 PM BST
OUT
Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:37 PM BST
more time
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:37 PM BST
how can the light be better than yesterday?
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:37 PM BST
And an immediate savage flip back.
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:38 PM BST
run off you ginger tw@t
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:38 PM BST
england fans dancing in crowd
Report Fatslogger October 17, 2015 2:38 PM BST
Draw was back above evens there, with probably fewer than 5 minutes left! Can't stand to put any more on though.
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:38 PM BST
2/1 v 1/2
Report Smalltime Punter October 17, 2015 2:38 PM BST
If the umps are going to take them off they need to do it soon - will look ridiculous if they do it when Eng only need a dozen, even if that's what the light meter says
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:38 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:38PM, Fatslogger wrote:


Draw was back above evens there, with probably fewer than 5 minutes left! Can't stand to put any more on though.


yeh they do what they want on the 5th day

Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:38 PM BST
Pakistan have bowled their overs slowly, according to Bumber 11.4 overs an hour. I think the umpires will factor that in when deciding to pull stumps here.
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:39 PM BST
7/4 v 4/7 I love test cricket markets Grin
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:39 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:38PM, West Coast Eagles wrote:


Pakistan have bowled their overs slowly, according to Bumber 11.4 overs an hour. I think the umpires will factor that in when deciding to pull stumps here.


very hard to predict these umpires

Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:39 PM BST
try explaining this is to some1 outside cricket lol its impossible
Report trader pj October 17, 2015 2:39 PM BST
the will take light readings at the end of this over, I'm sure
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:39 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:38PM, Smalltime Punter wrote:


If the umps are going to take them off they need to do it soon - will look ridiculous if they do it when Eng only need a dozen, even if that's what the light meter says


Rules are rules. I'm sure they have a certain reading which means they go off. And presumably it hasn't hit that mark yet.

Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:39 PM BST
Paul Reiffel is as neutral as an umpire you will get.
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:40 PM BST
paul reiffel is a australian, he always played to win test matches
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:40 PM BST
4/5 draw
Report liam1982 October 17, 2015 2:40 PM BST
i cant understand why england are not favs, they only need around 3 an over
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:40 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:40PM, liam1982 wrote:


i cant understand why england are not favs, they only need around 3 an over


bad light issue

Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:41 PM BST
bell blocking Laugh
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:41 PM BST
few more minutes he said
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:41 PM BST
Last over this?
Report trader pj October 17, 2015 2:41 PM BST
we're @ 5:40 now
Report Smalltime Punter October 17, 2015 2:41 PM BST
True Darlo, but in that case what's stopping a bowler simply refusing to bowl?

Might get suspended for a game or two, but they still get the draw. Like a professional foul in the last minute in footy...
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:41 PM BST
8/13 draw an enormous price
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:42 PM BST
what a farceLaugh
Report DStyle October 17, 2015 2:42 PM BST
eng have got 2 overs to get 30.

1.6 seems gigantic on the draw
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:42 PM BST
its dark now
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:42 PM BST
need root to get his golf swings out now Laugh
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:43 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:42PM, DStyle wrote:


eng have got 2 overs to get 30.1.6 seems gigantic on the draw


this is ridiculous

Report trader pj October 17, 2015 2:43 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:41PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


Last over this?


yes

Report skm1197 October 17, 2015 2:43 PM BST
It's pitch black
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:43 PM BST
1/2 a massive price for draw
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:43 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:41PM, Smalltime Punter wrote:


True Darlo, but in that case what's stopping a bowler simply refusing to bowl?Might get suspended for a game or two, but they still get the draw. Like a professional foul in the last minute in footy...


Good question.

The umpires have been very weak here in terms of Pak timewasting anyway. So would be intriguing if that indeed did happen.

Report mayburydrr October 17, 2015 2:43 PM BST
jesus christ i think were all about to get badly burnt
Report Angela Rebecchi October 17, 2015 2:43 PM BST
Is it definitely only this and next over?
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:44 PM BST
4/11 draw still huge
Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:44 PM BST
I reckon now, this light is about the same standard as when they went off last night
Report trader pj October 17, 2015 2:44 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:44PM, wondersobright wrote:


4/11 draw still huge


Huge

Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:44 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:43PM, wondersobright wrote:


1/2 a massive price for draw


Agree. I reckon there's only one over after this. At most.

Report liam1982 October 17, 2015 2:44 PM BST
hate pakistan
Report nonserviam89 October 17, 2015 2:44 PM BST
finally the market fookin wakes up!
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:45 PM BST
1/4 now that's still fkin massiveLaugh
Report GRANTCKING October 17, 2015 2:45 PM BST
england need to think theyre RCB or CSK
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:45 PM BST
england deserve all they get after yesterday & this morning
Report nonserviam89 October 17, 2015 2:45 PM BST
if it wasn't for the market making me think something was up here, I would have lumped the house on at 1.7
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:46 PM BST
shadows from the lights ffs
Report trader pj October 17, 2015 2:46 PM BST
Meter coming out after this ball!
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:46 PM BST
over now
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:46 PM BST
over
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:46 PM BST
the draw winsCoolCoolCool
Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:46 PM BST
Draw backers knew
Report nonserviam89 October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST
why didn't i lump onnnn CryCryCryCryCry
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST
1.23 on the draw as they finished.
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST
played 10 mins later aswell
Report trader pj October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST
I lacked courage
I knew
I just didn;'t have the balls
Report DStyle October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST
market in almighty denial and rightly punished
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:47PM, trader pj wrote:


I lacked courageI knew I just didn;'t have the balls


me too, just topped up a bit

Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST
^^absolutely correct D
Report sewter lives again October 17, 2015 2:47 PM BST
what a joke
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:48 PM BST
need a pink ball to play under lights
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:48 PM BST
so many people just do not understand draws in test cricket, it really is an incredible beastLove
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:48 PM BST
Terrible play from England last night and this morning. Should of scored 50 more yesterday
Report West Coast Eagles October 17, 2015 2:49 PM BST
^^^ We'll get that soon, with day night test match between Aus V NZ
Report slip5 October 17, 2015 2:49 PM BST
i think next month day light test match, australia vs new zealand
Report mayburydrr October 17, 2015 2:49 PM BST
i simply backed the draw as i felt the pain from losing the money (if it went wrong) would be less than the pain i felt merely looking at those insulting odds!
Report GRANTCKING October 17, 2015 2:49 PM BST
Grin
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:49 PM BST
tbf they got more overs in than I thought
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:49 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:47PM, trader pj wrote:


I lacked courageI knew I just didn;'t have the balls


Easy to say in hindsight but at the end England were theoretically only four balls from winning this; and didn't score a single boundary in the final two overs.

Report DStyle October 17, 2015 2:50 PM BST
i think someone must have assumed that the umpires might play on as they did so many years ago.

they is ZERO chance of that happening these days. it's a set light reading throughout the match and the sun wasn't going to choose to set later today because there was an exciting finish in store.
Report Fatslogger October 17, 2015 2:50 PM BST
Wish I'd gone in heavier but just not brave enough to go beyond £1.2k at risk. Can't complain really though: was losing £300 almost all game and ended up winning the same instead.
Report wondersobright October 17, 2015 2:51 PM BST
spot on again D
Report Smalltime Punter October 17, 2015 2:52 PM BST
I don't think it would have mattered if England had scored quicker or declared sooner - that would have just changed the point at which Pak started throwing their wickets away.

17.2
Rashid to Mohammad Hafeez, OUT, prodded to point, and what on earth?! It's a run out! Why would they even think of a run to Ben Stokes in the covers? Hafeez hesitated but was called through anyway, and the shy pinged down the non-striker's stumps with him miles from the frame!

41.1
Rashid to Younis Khan, OUT, slapped, into the covers. He's DONE IT! ADIL RASHID HAS A TEST WICKET! Sharp spin, a loose stroke, and finally, after [quick mental calculation ... (34x6) + (10x6) + 1 = 265] deliveries, he has his breakthrough!

52.5
Ali to Misbah-ul-Haq, OUT, Misbah skips out and is bowled aiming a slog down the ground! Well, either Misbah has lost his marbles, too, or he knows that the handshake is shortly forthcoming... Bit of turn again for Moeen but he was nowhere near making contact

They weren't trying to lose imo - they were trying to make it a possibility to shift the odds
Report lmfao October 17, 2015 2:52 PM BST
hope you filled your boots on the draw Grin


lmfao 17 Oct 15 13:43 Joined: 07 Jun 06 | Topic/replies: 5,066 | Blogger: lmfao's blog
this is a nailed on draw - greatstuff tho
Cool
Report differentdrum October 17, 2015 2:53 PM BST
Umpires bottled it. Allowed the fielding side to waste time. Much more difficult had that been a home side going for a win with a full house. Potential riot situation.
Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:54 PM BST
11 overs in a hour isn't that bad
Report Darlo Bantam October 17, 2015 2:55 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:54PM, jucel69 wrote:


11 overs in a hour isn't that bad


Taking in context, I know where you're coming from; but it's 24 overs short over a full day.

Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:55 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:52PM, Smalltime Punter wrote:


I don't think it would have mattered if England had scored quicker or declared sooner - that would have just changed the point at which Pak started throwing their wickets away. 17.2Rashid to Mohammad Hafeez, OUT, prodded to point, and what on earth?! It's a run out! Why would they even think of a run to Ben Stokes in the covers? Hafeez hesitated but was called through anyway, and the shy pinged down the non-striker's stumps with him miles from the frame!41.1Rashid to Younis Khan, OUT, slapped, into the covers. He's DONE IT! ADIL RASHID HAS A TEST WICKET! Sharp spin, a loose stroke, and finally, after [quick mental calculation ... (34x6) + (10x6) + 1 = 265] deliveries, he has his breakthrough!52.5Ali to Misbah-ul-Haq, OUT, Misbah skips out and is bowled aiming a slog down the ground! Well, either Misbah has lost his marbles, too, or he knows that the handshake is shortly forthcoming... Bit of turn again for Moeen but he was nowhere near making contactThey weren't trying to lose imo - they were trying to make it a possibility to shift the odds


yeh probably right, still fixing/cheating imo

Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 2:56 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:55PM, Darlo Bantam wrote:


Oct 17, 2015 --  2:54PM, jucel69 wrote:11 overs in a hour isn't that badTaking in context, I know where you're coming from; but it's 24 overs short over a full day.


about 10 in the end, but there were loads of wickets & Eng wasted 50 mins this morning & 2/3 hours yesterday

Report jucel69 October 17, 2015 3:08 PM BST
people moaning their bag off on bbc cricket
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH October 17, 2015 4:24 PM BST

Oct 17, 2015 -- 3:45PM, jucel69 wrote:


england deserve all they get after yesterday & this morning


regular readers / posters will have read my thoughts on Ian Bell in this test match, 63 runs from 33 over strike rate of 30% even when England were 200/1, dropping two dollies, really not good enough Cry that is the difference !!! Give Taylor a chance Cool

Report pxb October 17, 2015 7:23 PM BST
Good for my stress levels that I slept through that.
Report PLEASE TELL THE TRUTH October 17, 2015 8:15 PM BST
Grin
Report Whisperingdeath October 18, 2015 12:04 PM BST
was always going to be a draw!

I would have liked to see England attack the chase on the basis of say only getting 13 overs. As it was only 11 got bowled, hardly a surprise. I didn't get to see the chase but it should have been a straight T20 chase not an ODI chase. Run a ball was bever going to be enough. Foresight not hindsight....same old England even under new ownership!

Well done to Rashid thought. Hope he gets some help. I think maybe he could run in faster to help his speed and rythmn. It would be worth investing into a legspin coach for him. I don't know who he uses at Yorkshire but it would be good for the Natioanl Academy to have someone to spread the Love. Interesting on TMS yesterday about the leg spinner who took 300 wickets in a season twice and 200 plenty of times!
Report Captain Wurzel October 18, 2015 1:00 PM BST
I dont think that wicket was easy to play big shots on whispering - also no fielding restrictions or legside wides.
Report mafeking October 18, 2015 1:18 PM BST
yep scoring at 9 an over on a day 5 track with everyone on the fence is no easy task

they needed a couple of big overs early on to get ahead of the rate and break the back of it
Report Whisperingdeath October 18, 2015 5:04 PM BST
agreed gentlemen,

but you have to think about it. push the singles hit the bad balls and put pressure on the bowler. Misbah always knew the light would be called. Look I backed the draw, took insurance but not all round green. I let the winnings sit on the draw.

At least they thought about the batting order! Complaining about bad light at the end is not stupid it is ridiculous and insincere. At the end of the day all I am saying is they could have had a thrash and not died wondering. They could have shut up shop and played for time themsleves if they had to. A miracle is almost like a dough dough! If you have a chance of seeing one you have to take it. England didn't roll the dice is what I am saying and I think they should. I did not complain about their slow scoring rate in the first innings when others were having a blue.
Report Captain Wurzel October 21, 2015 11:06 AM BST
I did not complain about their slow scoring rate in the first innings when others were having a blue




Spot on whispering - England had to bat long - it was not the time for a few flashy 40's.
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