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What are they on about?

Am I being thick, surely there's only 3 possible results?

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By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:16
You are being thick.

Win SA
Win England
Draw
Tie
By:
wiggles
When: 20 Dec 09 12:18
Just to confirm my thickness, what's the difference between a tie and a draw?
By:
Green Beard
When: 20 Dec 09 12:19
:D hook line and sinker
By:
bigpoppapump
When: 20 Dec 09 12:19
:^0 reaper landed :)
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:21
Only joking :)

A tie takes place when the scores are tied when the game ends (either through the last wicket falling or time running out). I believe there have only been 2 in the history of the game, one falling into eachof the scenarios outlined above.

A draw is all other non-positive results.
By:
Lix
When: 20 Dec 09 12:21
Oh dear GR :(

http://www.sadtrombone.com/
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:21
I don't care, spirit of the season. Maybe Pop should go back to sticking his pins in his Bohemond / Bowden / Ponting Voodoo dolls
By:
scliffor
When: 20 Dec 09 12:22
You forgot Watson
By:
Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics
When: 20 Dec 09 12:22
if time runs out and scores are level, it's a draw
By:
King of Spain
When: 20 Dec 09 12:26
if time runs out and scores are level, it's a draw

correct!
By:
bigpoppapump
When: 20 Dec 09 12:27
yeah Grim, think you're wrong about the tie there. only way is if the side batting last has lost all their wickets with scores level. if they go off with scores level but wickets remaining, that's a draw.

Lies - see, we agree :)
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:30
I think that's what I said Pop... "the scores are tied when the game ends (either through the last wicket falling or time running out"

Maybe I should have put a comma between "falling" and "or" just to emphasise that I was talking about two seperate events. However, it seems to me clear that the events in brackets were subject, in grammatical terms, to the foregoing assumption.
By:
Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics
When: 20 Dec 09 12:32
i am over halfway through reading the laws of cricket...

;)

p.s. i believe that has happened once in a test match, but have no idea when....new zealand maybe involved??
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:33
Two ties I believe

Aus v West Indies in 1961(?), Benaud was skipper

England v Zimbabwe in 1997
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:34
* Zim v Eng, lest the pedants jump on me
By:
Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics
When: 20 Dec 09 12:34
ties are aus v wi 60/61
and aus v india 86

was talking about a draw with scores level - sure that has happened somewhere
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:35
Sorry Pop, just reread, and I retract...draw with scores level...

Knackers, too much sauce early in the day :|
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:35
Yeah, that was the Zim v Eng match, Lies, draw with scores level
By:
Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics
When: 20 Dec 09 12:38
didn't realise it was so recent

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/63734.html
By:
bigpoppapump
When: 20 Dec 09 12:38
1961 Brisbane and you shouldnt need to look it up :)
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:39
I'm not as infatuated with Australia as you appear to be Pop :p
By:
bigpoppapump
When: 20 Dec 09 12:44
direct hit run out going for the winning run :)
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 12:47
Yes, I remember the clips
By:
good value losers
When: 20 Dec 09 13:20
GrimReaper 20 Dec 13:33
Aus v West Indies in 1961(?), Benaud was skipper

coincidentally i was re-reading fingleton's book about this the other day. apparently sobers got away with murder in the last hour switching from over to round the wicket thus using up time while the screens were moved :0
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 13:22
Was the foetal Ricky Ponting screaming about the spirit of cricket? ;) :^0
By:
Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics
When: 20 Dec 09 13:26
funny you say that - had not heard that story, and have always heard that the 60/61 series was played in great spirits
By:
Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics
When: 20 Dec 09 13:27
yes grim, the human gestation period is around 15 years so it is possible...
By:
GrimReaper
When: 20 Dec 09 13:28
I thought the gag was worth it, depsite the obvious flaws ;)
By:
Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics
When: 20 Dec 09 13:33
no - it was a fail...

;)
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