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d13phe
28 Nov 09 12:19
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Betfair can we put up a market for when this glorified slogger retires from test cricket

I say 3 months

He shows a complete lack of respect for the the truest form of the sport (test match cricket)

Can't wait until he fecks off to play rounders for a living as he is not good enough to play test match cricket
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Report STEPTOES YARD November 28, 2009 12:23 PM GMT
Ganga should be captain

Was so impressed during CL
Report Cuddy November 28, 2009 12:43 PM GMT
but ganga is a sh1t awful batsman.
Report STEPTOES YARD November 28, 2009 12:47 PM GMT
Hes no worse than some in the line up cuddy.

Think having a good captain who actually wants to be there would outweigh any batting issues he may have.

Hes not the worst with the bat anyway imo
Report d13phe November 28, 2009 12:53 PM GMT
chris gayle only wants to play 20/20

the fact that he is captaining the WEST INDIES test team and doesnt want to be there just shows a complete lack of respect for me.
Report T20man November 28, 2009 12:57 PM GMT
To be fair to him, Gayle didn't do any slogging in this match. 2nd innings got out lbw while shouldering arms in classic test match style...lol.
Report good value losers November 28, 2009 12:59 PM GMT
well if my mum was ill in hospital i'd find it quite hard to concentrate. perhaps he should've excused himself till she's better, but so much criticism is a tad harsh.
Report brentford November 28, 2009 1:00 PM GMT
strange thing is Step' - when Ganga was captain they wouldn't put in for him at all
as where as they do at least try for Gayle.
I thought Ganga was quite an impressive individual but despite being a reasonable looking technical player just never made many runs and maybe that was why he couldn't get the dressing room on side.
Report d13phe November 28, 2009 1:05 PM GMT
gvl

his mum wasnt in hospital when he said that test match cricket was dying
Report STEPTOES YARD November 28, 2009 1:20 PM GMT
Fair points Brent.

Just not sure Gayle is the right man for the job and its difficult to see too many clear alternatives in current set up.
Report Super Vixen November 28, 2009 1:33 PM GMT
Gayle v the WICB is a real battle of the "who can do the most damage to the game".

Gayle has zero interest in Test cricket - and has virtually said as much.
The WICB are an absolute shambles - who have wrecked the game in the Caribbean.

It is heartbreaking if you love the game as no nation has their particular passion for the sport.

Gayle showed his true colours with the text message episode with KP - a real mercenary who should realise there is plenty of opportunity for him to cash in on his ability - without potentially ruining the game for good in his homeland.
Report michael knight November 28, 2009 1:47 PM GMT
Bit unfair to say he isnt good enough to play test cricket. If his attitude was not so lousy he'd be even better. If someone like Sehwag can do so well in Tests there is no reason Gayle cannot.

But even now, is there really a better test opener out there in the Windies? They've tried countless over the past 10 years without success.
Report T20man November 28, 2009 3:30 PM GMT
Gayle averages around 40 in all forms of cricket. That (and the rate he scores at) makes him the best batsman in the West indies in 20/20 and ODI's.

As far as tests go, only Chanderpaul (and maybe Sarwan) have better averages.

Just because he doesn't like tests...it doesn't mean that he is not good enough to play them + that WI dont need him.
Report STEPTOES YARD November 28, 2009 3:33 PM GMT
Should still be in side just not as leader
Report Cuddy November 28, 2009 4:00 PM GMT
i'm not so sure, step; the players seem to come together under him more than anyone else.
that was the case initially, anyway.
Report JimmyK November 28, 2009 4:35 PM GMT
They need to accept at test match level he should bat 6/7 and bowl, good slip fielder but is not a leader of men.

Fine cricketer but you have to play him in a spot that best suits the side, opening is definitely not that position and captaining certainly isnt!
Report bigjoe November 28, 2009 5:36 PM GMT
Feel he is too flat footed as a test opener these days :( .. does not look fit ... should bat at no5 against older ball instead of the swinging new ball :)
Report mittheimp November 28, 2009 10:49 PM GMT
up until the england away series, when he clearly didnt want to be there, Gayle had had easily his best period in test cricket. Led Windies well in NZ and in the Caribbean against England, and scored a lot of runs.

Think criticism too harsh, he said a few of the cuff remarks about tests coz was annoyed at WICB arranging the england series at late notice - basically the WICB swapped a 3 test series this year - at betrer grounds and not as early - for two ridiculously early tests last year which clashed with the IPL he and others were already comitted to. Kind of see why he was annoyed, although completely disagree with his remarks.
Report beersexchipsngravy November 29, 2009 9:22 AM GMT
I really hope he doesn't quit - Who will ask for an umpire referral for a ball which is smashing middle stump out of the ground if he retires??
Report JustWinBaby November 29, 2009 10:50 AM GMT
The guy has a complete disregard to the concept of team sport IMO. Those 2 absurd challenges when he was batting in both innings pretty much sums it up, looking after No1
Report anyother November 29, 2009 11:00 PM GMT
http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvwi09/content/current/story/437439.html

he ain't going nowhere
Report mittheimp December 7, 2009 7:27 AM GMT
umm.. wonder if anyone has slightly altered their opinion. As i said in my above post - Gayles test record in Test cricket over the last two years - apart from the winter weather series in England has been good to excellent.

His captaincy yesterday i thought was excellent. Batted pretty well today by all acounts too :)

the stuff written about him after the first test in the ozzie media after returning from visiting his sick mother was crazyly over the top.

Be fantastic if the windies win tomorrow - but whatever happens think theyve proven a point!
Report in hell December 7, 2009 8:20 AM GMT
one for the team today
Report Super Vixen December 7, 2009 2:15 PM GMT
No change in my opinion at all. Never doubted his ability - just his attitude.

Led the players revolt in the Windies - kind of understandable if you have to deal with the WICB - which threatens the future of the game in the Caribbean, plays purely for financial gain instead of getting the rewards on offer whilst respecting the history of the game.

One very good knock doesn't change any of that imo.
Report mittheimp December 8, 2009 5:27 AM GMT
his attitude in England was poor - but seems to be the best leader windies have had for a while - damning him with faint praise maybe - but players seem to like him and he has an aura about him.
Report Ive heard you crap now hear me December 8, 2009 9:49 PM GMT
d13phe 28 Nov 13:19
Betfair can we put up a market for when this glorified slogger retires from test cricket

I say 3 months

He shows a complete lack of respect for the the truest form of the sport (test match cricket)

Can't wait until he fecks off to play rounders for a living as he is not good enough to play test match cricket


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Report mittheimp December 17, 2009 8:56 AM GMT
still standing by comments d13phe ?
Report d13phe December 17, 2009 12:23 PM GMT
changing my opinion that he is still a glorified slogger?

no

perhaps he realised he was playing for his country and grew up a little
Report YER MAN December 17, 2009 12:59 PM GMT
102 off 72 balls.

6 Sixes & 9 fours.

Thats 72 off 15 balls.

Which means he scored 30 off the other 57 balls.

Hitting the balls that were there to hit and leaving the good ones??

Surely the way the game should be played imo.
Report smeagors December 17, 2009 7:35 PM GMT
i think tilakaratne dilshan is cooler in terms of cool .. both a great advert for the game ..
Report Mushtaq December 17, 2009 8:02 PM GMT
If his stats are any guide, he realised that about 5 years ago.
Report blackcap December 17, 2009 8:45 PM GMT
Gayle is cool mon
Report Mellor December 17, 2009 8:57 PM GMT
Dont really like his attitude.

However, highest test score 317, look at his averages across T/ODI/T20 and his appeal as a global brand in the cricket sense and think it is a little unwise to call him a glorified slogger.

He hit the biggest six I have ever seen against Aus at the Oval earlier this year(into Brixton over my head) and I have to ask myself do I pay my money to watch him live or watch Kallis.

Answer - CG
Report mittheimp December 18, 2009 3:17 PM GMT
i think cricket would be a lot poorer without him.

be great if he manages another knock in the 2nd innings.
Report oddduck December 18, 2009 3:38 PM GMT
"...think it is a little unwise to call him a glorified slogger....He hit the biggest six I have ever seen..."

:^0 :^0
Report Mellor December 18, 2009 4:28 PM GMT
so non-glorified sloggers are not allowed to hit big sixes?
Report EarlyBath December 18, 2009 5:03 PM GMT
Yer Man

`Thats 72 off 15 balls.

Which means he scored 30 off the other 57 balls.

Hitting the balls that were there to hit and leaving the good ones??`



Excellent point well made.
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