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TwoTonTed
10 Dec 09 09:48
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No thread chaps? 11.00pm this evening for the off. All about the pitch is it, or are both sides incapable of lasting 5 days even on Napier's traditional road? Ground/Curator reports suggest a more bowler friendly (not difficult) surface with something called grass and possible early pitch moisture. Personally, take this info with the odd pinch of salf till it reveals itself.

Anyway, Pak fav for me but no bet yet :)
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Report Carla December 13, 2009 12:32 AM GMT
Ok, nite boys.... I'm off to bed, will quit whilst I'm ahead :-)

Good luck all with your bets... I just pray this doesn't turn into a miracle DRAWN game or I'll never hear the end of it :-)

Nite
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 12:35 AM GMT
i laid a lot of 525 at 9.90 and laid the 19.00 for 600 runs. when they lost the 5th wiket.

the mcullum / vettori partnership wasnt great for the heart but as a result have a nice green up to 525. Just had a little on 525 to lock in some profit but 3.0 is a crap price to take if they lose a wicket quickly.

cant see them making 525 but,.... well.... staying up for 2 nights for nothing would be bloody awful.
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 12:49 AM GMT
Anyone got any idea what O'Brien's contract at Middlesex could be? 50k pa?
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 12:49 AM GMT
out for me
Report brentford December 13, 2009 12:53 AM GMT
doubt it would be much more than that,
PCA site used to give average wages for county players (may still do)
NZ contracts don't compete as evidenced by the likes of Marshall
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 12:53 AM GMT
If Martin makes more then 5 then back the ar5e out of the draw ;-)
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 12:54 AM GMT
ty Brent
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 12:55 AM GMT
lol. martin is really useless. lol
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 12:55 AM GMT
There goes the lump on the draw :-)
Report Ive heard you crap now hear me December 13, 2009 12:56 AM GMT
any one wanna meet up 4 a pint on the m25 ?
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 12:56 AM GMT
ball was straight and he didn't even get close to it :^0
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 12:57 AM GMT
wouldn't you be better of in a pub/bar/club?
Report Ive heard you crap now hear me December 13, 2009 12:58 AM GMT
the "m25" is a club for millionaires

obviously u aint heard of it
Report Ive heard you crap now hear me December 13, 2009 12:59 AM GMT
nah im joking, yea i would be better of in a bar in bangkok tho, not in london
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 1:00 AM GMT
a 200 mile trip to meet a transvesite with a fetish for listening to others defecate in the dead of night, bit ot a tempter.
Report brentford December 13, 2009 1:00 AM GMT
:^0
Report brentford December 13, 2009 1:01 AM GMT
where is Phil ?
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 1:04 AM GMT
Pak got to bat 5 sessions but panic in the draw mightn't take much. Happy with a nice sizeable draw green atm. Hopefully can get rid of it sub 4.0s.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 1:06 AM GMT
yeah I see draw sub 4.0s at some point too here. shame there's no rain about :(
Report brentford December 13, 2009 1:08 AM GMT
should probably qualify the NZ contract issue - they aren't that much better even if you are a stonewall pick, for anyone uncertain about number of games played county cricket has offered better contracts.

Hamish would have been a regular in amongst this lot
Report Lix December 13, 2009 1:13 AM GMT
getting a few ticks drift for each over without a wkt here. could see 1.6 NZ if no wkt after 10 overs :)
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 1:16 AM GMT
If Pak pput their heads down and apply themselves, which is a big ask, draw could get quite low very quickly.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 1:20 AM GMT
Stan's line is evens for over 320. big overs bet here. pitch looking placcid.
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 1:21 AM GMT
agree nice spot Lix.
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 1:21 AM GMT
320 seems low.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 1:21 AM GMT
3 65 have the line at 355.5 5/6 the pair.

Stan's way out imo (as usual)
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 1:35 AM GMT
This pitch is just crying for crease occuppation. Play the poor balls and let the rest go. Could bat for 2 days with that attitude. If only you could have bang that into the Pak players. I suppose that is the reason the draw is 4.5.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 1:40 AM GMT
There's the draw sub 4.0 already :D
Report jacob11 December 13, 2009 1:41 AM GMT
good call , Lix
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 2:05 AM GMT
they had 320 up??? oh my god. i thought i was good getting on over 345.....320?????
Report Lix December 13, 2009 2:10 AM GMT
love the comms discussing the prices with the TAB :)
Report brentford December 13, 2009 2:10 AM GMT
lip service, Smuthy and co on here all day
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 2:11 AM GMT
stans now over 420 evens.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 2:11 AM GMT
Smuthy sounds like he's backed NZ at 1.3 :0
Report Lix December 13, 2009 2:13 AM GMT
some big old arbs there from the TAB :D
Report brentford December 13, 2009 2:15 AM GMT
good value to be fair the NZ comms
Report Lix December 13, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
55555555555555555555555
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
5555555555555555
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 2:19 AM GMT
I hope Carla has already completed his/her xmas shopping and paid for the turkey!
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 2:21 AM GMT
lol, yeah. could be 200 / 2 or 3 at this rate.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 2:22 AM GMT
TAB going 1500.0 for the Tie!! :0

Amazing valyoo imo.
Report silly seal December 13, 2009 2:24 AM GMT
pak are value...more they win than draw
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 2:24 AM GMT
Panic get hold here. :-)
Report brentford December 13, 2009 2:25 AM GMT
think that translates differently

as per US bookies - I'm assuming 150
Report silly seal December 13, 2009 2:27 AM GMT
too many overs left for draw

even if pak get 500, they would reach there around tmrw with 3.5 sessions left..

so draw real outsider, if pak get 500-they will win, else lose
Report silly seal December 13, 2009 2:28 AM GMT
17 balls to tea...survive and nz would be 2.1+
Report Lix December 13, 2009 2:36 AM GMT
Draw by no means impossible with this pitch getting slower and lower all the time but a Pak win more likely imo.
Report brentford December 13, 2009 2:39 AM GMT
could well end up batting too well to have time for a result though Lix if they do enough to avoid defeat - no generous decs on the cards here @ 1-1
Report TopTier December 13, 2009 2:41 AM GMT
Yeah, If Pak avoid defeat then they will need to bowl NZ out in just over 2 sessions.
Report brentford December 13, 2009 2:51 AM GMT
feels a very small window on Pak to be of any value at the moment,

surely if they bat well the draw collpase outweighs the Pak (price) collapse, we shall see
Report Lix December 13, 2009 3:03 AM GMT
yeah I see what you mean. Pak have to be all out for a score of 450-500 ish to have a good chance of winning. Still think they can do it though.

just over the halfway point in this test. The Canary on day 5 against a kiwi line up not renowned for playing spin too well with a long tail..... hmmm..
Report VardonVoo. December 13, 2009 3:05 AM GMT
Odds-wise this looks like it's going to be one of those situations where the odds
on Pak trade within a limited range while the NZ and draw odds pivot
around each other, see-sawing with each wicket.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
I still like Pak here. Kaneria taking a 7-fer 1st inns is not good for Kiwi chances imo.
Report silly seal December 13, 2009 3:14 AM GMT
i reckon nz would be batting late time tmrw..

target 250-280 in 95-ish overs...in which case draw becomes outsider..
Report Lix December 13, 2009 3:16 AM GMT
Although now may not be the time to back Pak if you do fancy em. Probably see 6.0+ again easily.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 3:19 AM GMT
Draw gonna be odds on soon. Pak cant really get much below 5.5 for a while. NZ have to blow with Pak runs. Draw has to take up the slack.
Report Ive heard you crap now hear me December 13, 2009 3:22 AM GMT
anyone wanna lay pakistan 500 runs ?
Report silly seal December 13, 2009 3:26 AM GMT
what prices if nz set 250 in 70 overs?
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 3:34 AM GMT
close day 3 160/1 -80ish

lunch day 4 260/3 levelish
tea day 4 360/5 +100
close day 4 480/8 +220

day 5,,, 500 all out. nz chasing 250 off 80 overs.
at lunch 50/2
at tea 150/4
close....?????

whast everyone else think.
Report Ive heard you crap now hear me December 13, 2009 3:35 AM GMT
what the hell are u on about ? hes on about match odds and ur coming out with scores
Report West Coast Eagles December 13, 2009 3:36 AM GMT
weather like in the next few days?

they're saying 40% Monday, 30% TUesday
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 3:36 AM GMT
lol.
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 3:38 AM GMT
im also wondering what the prices would be in that example at the various stages.
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 3:41 AM GMT
also if 550 runs goes odds on, thats when il hopefully lay some.
Report Lix December 13, 2009 3:46 AM GMT
there goes the draw :0

Looks like these two are just gonna block out the session . still 19 overs left today. might go back to sleep.
Report silly seal December 13, 2009 3:49 AM GMT
am with fred on this..

think we lookin at nz chasing 250 in 70-odd and it wont be easy...

pak 4+ are good odds in that scenario
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 3:52 AM GMT
feel a tie thread coming up!! lol
Report Lix December 13, 2009 3:55 AM GMT
Pak not scoring runs merely makes them have to bat longer to save this. feel the draw has been oversold here but the bowling isnt threatening enough at present to want to oppose it.
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 4:01 AM GMT
last 10 overs 12 runs. :-(
Report Lix December 13, 2009 4:02 AM GMT
awful isnt it :(
Report brentford December 13, 2009 4:04 AM GMT
:D behave - great effort
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 4:06 AM GMT
that did make me laugh then. it must be all these late nights. :-)
Report Lix December 13, 2009 4:19 AM GMT
one of the worst sessions of cricket i've ever seen :_|
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 4:22 AM GMT
4444444444444444444444
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 4:22 AM GMT
44444444444444444444 whats going on?? lol
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 4:28 AM GMT
how many overs we gonna get in? been a few short last few days?
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 4:31 AM GMT
martins maiden...the 54th of the match. /251 overs so far. lol.
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 4:34 AM GMT
the way we going we'r gonna have 90 maidens in the match!! lol. a whole day. lol
Report Ernesto December 13, 2009 9:58 AM GMT
Gawd it pays not to sleep.

What happened. Can't belive the draw so short on just play alone. Think weather issues must be in there too.

Kiwis 1.3 :( when I went to bed
Draw 5.8 :(
Report Lix December 13, 2009 11:21 AM GMT
nah no weather issues just a very flat pitch with very little in it for the bowlers (no turn or bounce ) and two sides seemingly happy to play for a draw for now.

That last session was pretty numbing stuff. Bowlers bowling 2 feet outside off and both bats leaving everything.
Report bombaclart December 13, 2009 1:49 PM GMT
paks drifting....rain??
Report Asparagus Man December 13, 2009 2:46 PM GMT
I've not seen a ball of this live, but the draw looks very low if there is no weather risk.

If NZ get wickets early this morning it could easily all be over today or early Day 5 - if Pak pick up the rate NZ could have a very nasty chase.

Even if Pak continue to bat this slow they are still going to need to be batting well after lunch on Day 5 to be safe here. Say another 130 overs from where they are now.

I wouldn't fancy either of these teams not to collapse, and it seems this game only needs one session of the remaining 6 to have 4 or 5 wickets in it for there to be a result.
Report jinx December 13, 2009 3:00 PM GMT
pitch has had its last rites ...dead as a door nail .
would think the only bowler capable of taking wkts would be kaneria
but the pitch is so slow now ,little bounce for the wizard .
Zero chance of a declaration if pakistan do bat well(even be scared of a fifty over go at nz )
time for a celebration
.......... ;-) ......
Report VardonVoo. December 13, 2009 5:04 PM GMT
Not a weather drift, seeing as NZ have contracted quite sharply since
close of play yesterday. Probably just ne of those illogical "batting side
overnight drifts", unless a Pak player has been hospitalised or arrested
overnight.
Report antoinette December 13, 2009 5:06 PM GMT
MASSIVE support coming in for the new zealanders, 5k at 4
Report antoinette December 13, 2009 5:08 PM GMT
must admit, odds are a bit puzzling, draw should be a lot higher, Pakistan are still a 100 odd runs behind, i would have new zealand under 3.0
Report Lix December 13, 2009 5:15 PM GMT
Pak at 10.0s for me.
Report bombaclart December 13, 2009 5:26 PM GMT
or a session or two of delays asparagus and we have a draw

paks well up against here imo though, they won't declare & will play it very safe until after lunch tmrw if they are still around.

gut feeling is that kiwis win this after tea tmrw
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 5:41 PM GMT
i hope that the pak scoring rate yesterday isnt gonna prove to be an indicator of today's intentions. For me the last session showed their gonna first and foremost save it, maybe not even go for the win, and so i couldnt bet pak at the moment at 10.00.

What price will they be if they score today 4 an over for the full day?? that would leave them 250ish infront with a day to go. Might bet them then and hope for Danish!! but i cant see them setting out to score 360 runs today.

at the current rate:
pak at lunch then 200/2
pak at tea ......280/4
close ..........380/6 and only bout 150 infront.

day 5 lunch about 480 all out +250. leaving nz 60 overs to get 250.

if pak score more than expected 500 runs (another 372) to lead by 250+ at this rate, they'l be asking nz to get over 250 in less than 60 overs.

If pak get 550 runs leaving nz 300 to win...could be off 50 overs.

Think il wait to see first few overs / batsmen intentions / weather before having a another bet.
Report Ive heard you crap now hear me December 13, 2009 6:02 PM GMT
whats happend to CARLA

that ladyboy gone all quiet now

:-)


carla = MUG

and no love u were wrong!! u could have traded out of the draw at 1.57, when you were**ging it off at 4.30

imo MUG
Report fredderf December 13, 2009 6:20 PM GMT
someone just laid 300 run line an 20000 at 5/4 ?????? :-) whats going on????? lol
Report silly seal December 13, 2009 6:22 PM GMT
someone has inside info, watch pak collapse now..
Report Richard LL December 13, 2009 6:33 PM GMT
Bloody hell, hard to put this down as a fat finger error :(
Report Jan1ne December 13, 2009 6:38 PM GMT
sorry, needed to switch some cash between accounts
Report jinx December 13, 2009 6:39 PM GMT
fredderf 13 Dec 19:20
someone just laid 300 run line an 20000 at 5/4 ?????? :-) whats going on????? lol
Report cricketjon December 13, 2009 6:44 PM GMT
GenitalWartsgate II
Report jinx December 13, 2009 6:55 PM GMT
gotta say the pakistan batting was a bit odd first innings ,hope they don't go back to that plan!!!
Report Big Bad Dog December 13, 2009 7:23 PM GMT
just money laundering i would think often see this on markets with no money
Report ChocIce December 13, 2009 7:25 PM GMT
Is everyone really expecting NZ to take 10 wickets on this deck; absolutely nothing in it. Obviously Pakistan might all throw their wickets away, but fairly unlikely. Showed their intentions clearly with their RR yesterday.
Report ChocIce December 13, 2009 7:26 PM GMT
lol they could have laundered it with a better bet :)
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