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Biltz
01 Dec 09 01:19
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The weather in Wellington has been heavy rain both yesterday and today with more forecast tomorrow. For the start of the test the weather looks fine and its supposed to be improving for the remainder of the test. The pitch is normally pretty good at the basin but being early season and with 3 straight days of rain before the first day it could be a bit green and seam round a bit. This would lead me towards laying the draw with the only problem being the late start time and losing overs later in the day.

The other big development is that Bond has been ruled out for the rest of the series. Pakistan were close to the win in Dunedin despite dropping close to 10 catches and only a couple of their batsmen showing up. The fragility of the NZ order combined with the loss of their main spearhead leads me to believe that 3.3 on Pakistan is excellent value.

What do you guys think?
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Report JimmyK December 1, 2009 9:54 AM GMT
knowing wellington as i do and seeing the fragility in each order I would say 300 overs might be enough to get this test over and done with.

the late start times will probably be countered by an early start time from day 2 onwards if play is lost on the first day.
Report blackmarket December 1, 2009 9:56 AM GMT
I don't disagree with anything you said Biltz. A real shame about Bond too.

Just a cursory look at the Basin results over the last decade would lead most to conclude that every game SHOULD have had a result. There were 4 draws (from 15) but all appear to be rain affected. And prior to 2000, the most recent draw was in 1993.

If the weather is anywhere decent ..which it appears to be, I'd be laying the draw for sure.
Report Ernesto December 1, 2009 10:31 AM GMT
TV Forecast here

http://tvnz.co.nz/content/1497662/video_popup_windows_skin

Still looks like there's a bit of rain around to me. What's the drainage like at the basin reserve?
Report Super Vixen December 1, 2009 10:47 AM GMT
Shane Bond injured?

HTEHB?
Report Ernesto December 1, 2009 10:50 AM GMT
Out of the series :(
Report the nugget December 1, 2009 11:05 AM GMT
Bond desimated the Pakistan top order and really set up the win. Hard to see New Zealand winning without him imo.
Report Lix December 1, 2009 11:21 AM GMT
Laying NZ here. Bond is just too big a loss.
Report Ernesto December 1, 2009 11:51 AM GMT
I agree he's a big loss and O'Brien despite bowling at his home ground is carrying a fingers injury and is just not good enough imho.

Can Pakistan really be strong favs though as they are relying on 2 or 3 batsmen to get them their runs.

The draw meanwhile could be a pure weather bet at this ground looking at the stats from the past.

Can't decide which way to go here. Might start with the draw and hope for lingering rain on the morning of the match.
Report lippy December 1, 2009 3:57 PM GMT
Dont forget wellington much further north than dunedidin , it will get dark a fair bit earlier
Report d13phe December 1, 2009 5:01 PM GMT
Bond took 8 of the 20 wickets in Dunedin and looked the most dangerous bowler by a mile

tbh i really fancy pakistan to win this test but not willing to bet them at their current price

whenever they bat wait until those useless top 3 are out and then back them at a bigger price
Report STEPTOES YARD December 1, 2009 5:18 PM GMT
Crane cam :x
Report Ernesto December 1, 2009 5:49 PM GMT
Now that would be a thread worth bringing back :D

Be nice to think crane cam might be needed again.
Report STEPTOES YARD December 1, 2009 6:14 PM GMT
Dig it out for old time sake ern ;)
Report Ernesto December 1, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
gubbed isn't playing ball SY. Won't come back.

Just have to be a cherished memory. :D
Report Steve007 December 1, 2009 8:35 PM GMT
overcast and raining here this morning in wellington

Races on at local track this saturday and they have being cursed with
wet tracks last few months and southerly on the map for friday
Report lightin jack December 1, 2009 9:17 PM GMT
its raining in wellie lads
Report lightin jack December 1, 2009 9:17 PM GMT
its raining in wellie lads
Report Ernesto December 1, 2009 9:57 PM GMT
What's the drainage like chaps.

Chucking it down on the webcam.
Report lightin jack December 1, 2009 10:00 PM GMT
about 10 mins from ground its a drizzle and it wont stop today me thinks
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Report Biltz December 1, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
Not really sure how good the drainage is but I can remember problems with the bowlers run ups in the past. Hopefully the wind will help to dry the field out a bit, because its absolutely bucketing down here and Im about 20 mins away from the ground. Might be a delayed start tomorrow depending on how good the ground staff/covers perform and the weather in the morning.
Report lightin jack December 1, 2009 10:15 PM GMT
its brightening up bit still a strong drizzlew
Report lightin jack December 1, 2009 10:31 PM GMT
its stopped raining
Report lippy December 1, 2009 11:20 PM GMT
Whats with the premature weather forecasts?

No need to stress about the weather , will be fine for cricket ,may lose a little but will be made up

Finished in three and a half days imo
Report lightin jack December 1, 2009 11:27 PM GMT
raining again 1.16 nz
Report Steve007 December 1, 2009 11:50 PM GMT
fine for cricket in Wellington, yeah right!
Report TopTier December 2, 2009 12:15 AM GMT
Once this band is gone looks pretty bright for the test. Could have a very juicy wicket. Draw a fat lay imo.
Report Innocent Bystander December 2, 2009 7:31 AM GMT
Where is this game being played? NZ cricket website says the Basin, yet Cricinfo says the Westpac

The Wellington Test has found a new home, moving away from the Basin Reserve, to the painfully modern and multi-purpose Westpac Stadium. Though it has hosted ODIs and T20Is, this will be the first Test


Are misinfo misleading us all again?
Report metal guru December 2, 2009 7:34 AM GMT
just been looking at that as well!can't believe that they haven't even got the correct venue
Report Innocent Bystander December 2, 2009 7:35 AM GMT
They really are plumbing new depths in journalistic incompetence :0
Report Innocent Bystander December 2, 2009 7:36 AM GMT
Its actually the 50th test match to be held there

http://www.blackcaps.co.nz/news/international/1/nzc-honours-historic-half-century-at-the-basin-reserve/6112/article.aspx
Report metal guru December 2, 2009 7:37 AM GMT
there's a football match there on friday night so presumably misinfo think that the players will be hauled off about 7ish
Report Biltz December 2, 2009 9:00 AM GMT
Info about the pitch straight from the groundsman himself:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/3121144/Groundsman-confident-on-Basin-pitch-weather
Report Ernesto December 2, 2009 11:31 AM GMT
Criocket365 leading the way with more incisive analysis,

Overview
The second Test between New Zealand and Pakistan marks the moment Test cricket moves away from its spiritual home in Wellington, The Basin Reserve ground, and heads to the newer, more expansive Westpac Stadium.
.......
Weather

Rain is predicted in the days leading up to the Test as well as on days one to three, with sunshine expected to force its way through the clouds for parts of days four and five. All in all it's set to be a wet and windy five days.


Did they research this 6 months ago? :(
Report Ernesto December 2, 2009 4:06 PM GMT
Hmmm.

Still a few raindrops on the webcam as well as a mass of cloud but the forecast did say they would be clearing.

Wonder if the start will be delayed to make sure it's had a bit of an airing. Otherwise it's going to be one sweaty old pitch.

Got to back whoever bowls first initially.
Report michael knight December 2, 2009 7:16 PM GMT
3 hours to go - has the rain stopped?
Report the nugget December 2, 2009 8:34 PM GMT
New Zealand really look to short atm without Bond to get into the weak Pakistan top three.
Report Innocent Bystander December 2, 2009 8:41 PM GMT
Expected to start on time
Report Lix December 2, 2009 9:17 PM GMT
Draw out with the washing already :0
Report the budha December 2, 2009 9:20 PM GMT
Winner of the toss could go odds on!!!
Report Girls aloud lezzer scrum December 2, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
Dont be silly
Report the budha December 2, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
When in Rome
Report Major Gambling December 2, 2009 9:27 PM GMT
Evening Chaps - Have taken the liberty of starting a day one thread...
Report Innocent Bystander December 2, 2009 9:28 PM GMT
Radio Sport changed their story - may be delayed start
Report michael knight December 2, 2009 9:34 PM GMT
not raining but run up areas too damp? htehb?
Report Happy Hornet December 2, 2009 9:39 PM GMT
Pliz nicely. What is htehb short for? Just googled and came up with an "Essential Russian" link!
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