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Does anyone care? I think the $1.35 Australia is a weather bet.
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Report Birchola November 20, 2009 5:11 AM GMT
Agreed
Report TopTier November 20, 2009 10:19 AM GMT
Shorter now and laying expecting WIs to be a lot more competitive than given credit for. :-)
Report Ernesto November 20, 2009 11:01 AM GMT
West Indies 1st innings 271

Queensland 1st innings 617/7 dec

133-1 in reply

Gayle a big doubt for the first test too
Report mittheimp November 22, 2009 12:33 PM GMT
gayle should be back for the firts test.

gayle
barath
sarwan
bravo
chanderpaul
nash
ramdin
benn
taylor
roach
rampaul

Not 'great', but certainly better than the 2001 effort the Windies sent. So, suprised the Aussie media have dismissed them as the 'worst indies' - the worst west Indies team ever to play in Asutralia.
Hopefully they can put up some kind of fight.
Report YER MAN November 22, 2009 1:20 PM GMT
Fancy it to be a lot closer than most people think.

Lee a big loss for Aus and Johnson not been at his best the last couple of months, other Aus bowlers not really setting the world alight.

If Windies can get a big total i can see a few draws in the series.
Report d13phe November 22, 2009 1:25 PM GMT
siddle
johnson
hilfenhaus

looks pretty decent to me
Report YER MAN November 22, 2009 1:28 PM GMT
d13phe 22 Nov 14:25


siddle
johnson
hilfenhaus

looks pretty decent to me

As i said, Johnson not been in the best of form recently.

Siddle can look very orinary at times and Hilfenhaus hardly gets a game now.

Three bowlers not enough anyway! ;)
Report d13phe November 22, 2009 1:31 PM GMT
hilfenahus will play guaranteed and continually knockover a few windies top order
Report Asparagus Man November 22, 2009 1:35 PM GMT
Aussie record at Brisbane is very impressive. Only draws this century weather affected.

Last time the away team won was England in 86/7

2000-2001 AUS v WIN AUS v WIN 1st Test 23/11/2000 Australia Won by an Innings and 126 Runs
2001-2002 AUS v NZL AUS v NZL 1st Test 08/11/2001 Match Drawn
2002-2003 AUS v ENG AUS v ENG 1st Test 07/11/2002 Australia Won by 384 Runs
2003-2004 AUS v IND AUS v IND 1st Test 04/12/2003 Match Drawn
2004-2005 AUS v NZL AUS v NZL 1st Test 18/11/2004 Australia Won by an Innings and 156 Runs
2005-2006 AUS v WIN AUS v WIN 1st Test 03/11/2005 Australia Won by 379 Runs
2006-2007 AUS v ENG AUS v ENG 1st Test 23/11/2006 Australia Won by 277 Runs
2007-2008 AUS v SRL AUS v SRL 1st Test 08/11/2007 Australia Won by an Innings and 40 Runs
2008-2009 AUS v NZL AUS v NZL 1st Test 20/11/2008 Australia Won by 149 Runs
Report fredderf November 22, 2009 10:59 PM GMT
how many runs are aus gonna score? anybody got any views on opening run lines?? :-)
Report lbw November 24, 2009 1:23 PM GMT
I think the aust runs line will be about 450. one line up has 400 runs odds on... WIndies I think 300 or slightly less
Report bigjoe November 24, 2009 1:26 PM GMT
cant see windies winning :( .. but can see them scoring enough runs to sneak a draw. New ball obviously key,,if they can get through that period only 1 or 2 down i can se them posting 400+ :)
Report lbw November 24, 2009 1:29 PM GMT
Barath and the tired Chris Gayle if he gets there have got a job to do for sure keeping out the new ball so that Chanders can crawl around the crease and get some respectability. I think I'd rather be under 300 WI runs that over it
Report Birchola November 24, 2009 4:52 PM GMT
Aus win this with an innings to spare early on day 4. 1.28 looks a decent bet.
Report Green Beard November 24, 2009 4:56 PM GMT
agree with birch, its nice to think that windies would stand a chance and you can trade this, but if we're honest, they are a dire outfit, and chanders will be straded on 130* when they are bowled out for 250

cant see past aussies, when does it kick off?
Report Birchola November 24, 2009 5:04 PM GMT
00:00 GMT Thursday 26th Nov
Report lbw November 24, 2009 5:07 PM GMT
wednesday night ... mid night
yeah i tend to agree, looking around the traps now
1st innings suprem at 140 might be a little cheap, and I'm thinking under Ramdin and a cpl of other performances. Oh and under Barath 23.5 1st inn runs .. he gotta be up against it early IMO
Report Lix November 24, 2009 5:20 PM GMT
1.28 too short imo. reckon we see 1.4+ at least. Would normally lay this

BUT......

* This is Brissy. Aussies fortress. Ridiculous record here including many hammerings

* WI dont give a sh1t about tests. especially away from home

* Beware the wounded Aus cricketer. Losing the ashes and dropping to 4th in the rankings must've hurt. Aus are very dangerous after a bad loss.

e.g. lose Ashes 2005, come back to win 5-0 next time.
Lose at home vs SA, come back to win away in SA
Lose ashes 2009, hammer us in the One dayers and win the CT

so er... NO BET it is! :)
Report bigjoe November 24, 2009 6:12 PM GMT
i repeat..if windies get through new ball period of first 10 overs only 1 or 2 down, the more then capable of scoring 400+ aginst the weaest ussie test attack in our lifetimes :)

1.28 ? ..... don't make me laugh :^0
Report bigjoe November 24, 2009 6:18 PM GMT
but i aint going to watch much of it at these unearthl hours so am only having a cheeky playful bet of A MASSIVE five quid on the draw at 6.2 :D
Report Birchola November 24, 2009 6:20 PM GMT
The Windies wont see off the new ball and they wont make 400+ BJ. They may reach 400 with the two innings combined.
Report Lix November 24, 2009 6:43 PM GMT
6.2 the draw makes more appeal to me than Aus 1.28.

Would want Aus batting 1st on a good pitch though. WI top 6 is probably their strongest in years.
Report mittheimp November 25, 2009 1:46 AM GMT
gayle, sawran and shiv are more than decent test batsman
barath could be better than all three
Bravo has good innings' in him
Nash is solid

Windies are not as dire as some peopel think. This is not a cold early spring day in the north of england , touring under duress. The last test series windies played and tried to compete was the victory over England - where they batted well.

There bowling looks a tad short without Edwards - not convinced about Benn at all - but maybe Roach is going to be that thing of the past ' a great west indies fast bowler'.


we shall see.
Report Deadly Earnest November 25, 2009 1:52 AM GMT
I like the WI batting as well and the Oz batting and bowling here, but not too keen on the WI bowling.
Report Lix November 25, 2009 1:52 AM GMT
yeah the WI batting doesnt look too shabby. Brissy will be nice and warm and they'll have Bravo back who missed the Eng tour.
Report Innocent Bystander November 25, 2009 2:12 AM GMT
However, word is Sarwan struggling with a back injury - dunno who would come in if he is out
Report Innocent Bystander November 25, 2009 2:16 AM GMT
Bollinger carrying the drinks
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 6:09 AM GMT
I agree the top 6-7 for West Indies look quite strong on paper in terms of batting.

In fact I reckon just looking at West Indies performance in T20 WC, and TT's T20 champions league and with most of these players rested for a period of time, I can see West Indies giving Australia a run for their money. In fact I'd even say I reckon Australia will at least hit 2.00 or better at some stage during this test match.

West Indies (possible) 1 Chris Gayle (capt), 2 Adrian Barath, 3 Ramnaresh Sarwan, 4 Shivnarine Chanderpaul, 5 Dwayne Bravo, 6 Brendan Nash, 7 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 8 Sulieman Benn, 9 Jerome Taylor, 10 Ravi Rampaul, 11 Kemar Roach.

The batting falls off a bit after batsman 8. Sarwan might not make the 1st test if all reports are true, which would definetly weaken the line up. Im suprised Kieron Pollard is not in this team, he would have been a huge plus in my opinion, especially with the way he hits the ball.
Report Lix November 25, 2009 6:16 AM GMT
Pollard? test cricket is a bit different to hitting full tosses out the ground :)
Report biggestKINGKONG November 25, 2009 6:16 AM GMT
i think number 9 has a test century in nz.
Report brentford November 25, 2009 6:18 AM GMT
be surprised if Taylor wasn't @ 8 ahead of Benn
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 6:19 AM GMT
still for me i thought pollard was pretty handy with the ball from what ive seen, also a quick fire 30 runs or so wouldnt be bad coming in at 8 or 9 for a player like him.
Report bigjoe November 25, 2009 12:20 PM GMT
batting lineups evenly matched ... aussies slightly edge the bowling .... aussies to win 3-0 at 1.9 is one of the funniest :^0 things i seen in a while :0
Report Lix November 25, 2009 12:30 PM GMT
Almost as funny as SA being backed in 1.55 as we speak! :^0
Report bigjoe November 25, 2009 12:31 PM GMT
:0
Report karaokechamp1 November 25, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
BigJoKE,

Again you are demonstrating your cricket Naivety. Oz will SMASH the windies. Smash them. Windies to make 400? You're kidding. This game will be settled late in day 3.
Report timbo86 November 25, 2009 9:03 PM GMT
i actually fancy the windies to get something from this if they apply themselves
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
west indies batting is not too shabby, i can see them batting a large portion of overs if they apply themselves.

best chance for aus layers , is if west indies bat first and make runs at a good rate as well as keeping wickets in hand.

an attack of johnson, siddle and hilfenhaus is good but nothing special
Report Lix November 25, 2009 9:10 PM GMT
WI more than capable of causing 1.26 Aus backers a few scares if they are up for this.

Very little chance without Ronny though.
Report Jan1ne November 25, 2009 9:14 PM GMT
green pitch rumoured, if it's anything like last year vs NZ cbl's runs about 80 too high, was really lively
Report Jan1ne November 25, 2009 9:15 PM GMT
windies could well field first
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 9:16 PM GMT
looking at the other test matches that are going around the world, it seems to me that batsman are dominating over the bowlers.

scoring 400+ on flat decks and not giving bowlers much hope
Report Jan1ne November 25, 2009 9:22 PM GMT
only a decent amount of rain prevents a result at the gabba in recent years
Report thehoops November 25, 2009 9:53 PM GMT
lay of oz first up for me
Report mafeking November 25, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
visitors almost always fail to cope with the bounce.
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 9:59 PM GMT
Lines are out at CB:
West Indies
Runs Under 299.5 1.85
Runs Over 299.5 1.95

Australia
Runs Under 399.5 2.50
Runs Over 399.5 1.55
Report d13phe November 25, 2009 10:00 PM GMT
over 300 for the windies looks decent
Report Lix November 25, 2009 10:02 PM GMT
not if its a greentop!
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 10:02 PM GMT
I reckon overs for both teams look good personally think aussies can rack up 500+ if they bat first here

think west indies may get around 375+
Report d13phe November 25, 2009 10:04 PM GMT
dont see many greentops in aus lix

last thing aus will want in this series is a green top
Report Smalltime Punter November 25, 2009 10:06 PM GMT
I reckon we'd need to lose at least a day to rain for Aus not to win at the 'Gabba - result wicket and as others have mentioned, an Aussie fortress. 1.3 at the start is too skinny for me though, and while the Aus bowling is decent enough, the WI batting is certainly capable of putting up a score against it. I'm going to hold fire for now, hope the Windies bat first and bat well, and back Aus then if the price appeals.

Trouble is, I can't see Aus ever looking like decent value here, as the market will always assume that they will win (and will probably be correct).

Really can't see that WI have the bowling to win any of the matches, but I agree with Joe that 1.9 on a 3-0 series is crazily short - it's equivalent to backing at 1.25 on each match and rolling forward, which given that they are 1.28 at the biggest result venue, means that you would surely be far better off backing them on the individual match markets rather than a series bet.

The other Tests are at Adelaide and Perth, both of which are likely to have the draw shorter than it is here. I think that backing Aus in each Test and rolling forward would net you more like 2.2 - 2.3.

Unfortunately the 3.3 currently being offered for 2-0 is too short as well, so I'm staying out of that market too for now.
Report da77ler. November 25, 2009 10:08 PM GMT
those who fancy windies to score 400+ there is 7s available on the 425+ 1st inns runs on here only £4 but there is another £4 for 450+ and another £4 for 475+ they will be available to trade if they get close to 400.

imo windies will get skittled for less than 200 1st inns
Report Jan1ne November 25, 2009 10:13 PM GMT
dont see many greentops in aus lix

certainly get them at brisbane
Report Lix November 25, 2009 10:14 PM GMT
WI more likely to get 400 than 200 imo. (if sarwan plays)

Really is their best batting line up for 10 yrs i reckon.
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 10:32 PM GMT
Ponting wins Toss Elects to bat
Report petit pique November 25, 2009 10:32 PM GMT
Aus win toss and bat
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 10:33 PM GMT
thats maybe not a bad toss to lose for west indies.

But I feel it probably makes their chances of a draw more harder for WI
Report Innocent Bystander November 25, 2009 10:35 PM GMT
Sarwan out
Report Birchola November 25, 2009 10:59 PM GMT
Sarwan out. 1.28 flee money. Shiv cant do it alone.
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 11:10 PM GMT
OUT BOOM

Watsomn gone

watson not appealing the LBW
Report Birchola November 25, 2009 11:12 PM GMT
Market doesnt care
Report West Coast Eagles November 25, 2009 11:18 PM GMT
market hardly moved after that 1st wicket
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