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bigjoe
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Staying in Asia for this high calibre world championship event :)
Very strong field including the Tiger :0 ... but i aint afraid of Tigers B-) ... but i do like him in the field as we get amazing prices on the others. There is no cut to worry about this week as there is none :0 .. so we get a full 4 rounds for every player.

Here are my FAB 4 for this week, i am confident that we will get a very decent run from at least one of them at greattttt prices :)

Thomas Levet 260 £4.21 £1,090.39
Ref: 9356457728 Bet matched:08:59 04-Nov-09

260 £4.50 £1,165.50
Ref: 9356457728 Bet matched:08:59 04-Nov-09

270 £1.29 £347.01
Ref: 9356457728 Bet matched:08:59 04-Nov-09

Nick Dougherty 260 £10.00 £2,590.00
Ref: 9356459480 Bet matched:09:00 04-Nov-09

Ricardo Gonzalez 480 £2.51 £1,202.29
Ref: 9356459119 Bet matched:08:59 04-Nov-09

480 £6.00 £2,874.00
Ref: 9356459119 Bet matched:08:59 04-Nov-09

490 £1.49 £728.61
Ref: 9356459119 Bet matched:08:59 04-Nov-09

Chih-Bing Lam 700 £10.00 £6,990.00
Ref: 9356460566 Bet matched:09:00 04-Nov-09

THOMAS LEVET @ 260.0 ....this frenchman is playing consistently this year...top 10 finish in singapore last week ... could go even better this time ;)

NICK DOUGHERTY @ 260.0...One of my favourite golfers...been a tad dissapointing since winning earlier this year.. but has potential to go low if he brings his A game ... i am happy to back him at this generous price and looking forward to a better performance this week ;)

RICCARDO GONZALEZ@ 480.0 :0 .... Amazing price on this big hitting argie who won for me at 400/1 a couple of months ago B-) ... i not backed him since... but on this course with 4 par 5s .. and 3 drivable par 4s.... his big hitting could again be a factor and i think he will have his best week since that win ;)

CHIH-BING LAM @ 700.0 ... Nice price ffor this exciting rising star of the asian tour..i backed him last week and he put in a creditable effort ... 700s on him is simply too big... it really would be rude to ignore him...i am not a rude man, so i won't ignore him .. nuff said ;)

My starting book, after commision therefore is:

LEVET + 2444.26
DOUGHERTY + 2432.00
GONZALEZ + 4536.16
C-B LAM + 6612.00
Rest -40 :(

IMPORTANT ...this starts 11 pm TONIGHT uk time ... so get yer stakes... and skates on :D

Good Luck :)
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Report Jason Bourne November 4, 2009 8:38 AM GMT
It's all a bit 'rinse and repeat' isn't it ? Disappointing. But best of luck, you're due a good week.
Report tyco161 November 4, 2009 8:49 AM GMT
in for a few rupees BJ thnx
Report Work Can Wait November 4, 2009 9:35 AM GMT
Rupees in, skates on, lets be havin' 'em, BJ
Report 1.01 Layer November 4, 2009 11:11 AM GMT
Thanks bj.

British Pounds in play.
Report Sir Denis Eton-Hogg November 4, 2009 11:59 AM GMT
good job there's no cut - at least you'll have an interest for twice as long as usual
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 4, 2009 12:02 PM GMT
:0
Report bigjoe November 4, 2009 12:03 PM GMT
yes sir dennis my fab 4 missed the cut a couple of weeks ago .. but last week they all made the cut, including the 300/1 shots.. whilst some of the favs at around 10s and 20s struggled to do so ;)
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 4, 2009 12:09 PM GMT
:0 :0
Report anyother November 4, 2009 12:15 PM GMT
i'm one of bj's biggest knockers when it comes to some of his ckt analysis .. however i think he's done well with his golf and after all its a bit of fun and something that people can throw a few quid at at large prices .. he's had a couple of big priced winners this yr at least so i would imagine those that follow him are stll showing a profit even after a few losing wks .. HTH .. ;)
Report bigjoe November 4, 2009 12:26 PM GMT
Cheers anyother.. good post :D
Report mamamia November 4, 2009 12:39 PM GMT
BJ...signing in after my Gonzalez win couple of months back....I hope you remember my £4000 winning for £10 stake. I went on holiday and bought the latest sony via 17" screen. My book is same as yours...lets see how it goes!..Good Luck
Report bigjoe November 4, 2009 12:42 PM GMT
welcome back mamamia :0 , indeed i remember you saying you was off on holiday to blow the Gonzo winnings :) .. you have not missed much, i have not had the best of runs lately :( .. but your return , couple with the fact that i am on gonzo again might change our luck :)

Good Luck :)
Report Worlds Best Punter November 4, 2009 3:20 PM GMT
Agree with anyother. Dont really see eye to eye with Bigjoe but he is a decent golf tipster.
Report callysboy November 4, 2009 5:22 PM GMT
JASON**I WILL SUPPLY YOU WITH MY CONTACT DETAILS AND YOU CAN SHOW ME HOW SMART OR KNOWLEDGEABLE YOUR PICKS ARE.
Report QuickTrader November 4, 2009 6:34 PM GMT
Thomas Levet 250 $10.00 $2,490.00
Ref: 9361808735 Bet placed: 21:32 04-Nov-09
Nick Dougherty 260 $10.00 $2,590.00
Ref: 9361808736 Bet placed: 21:32 04-Nov-09
Ricardo Gonzalez 353.4 $8.00 $2,819.20
Ref: 9361808737 Bet placed: 21:32 04-Nov-09
Chih-Bing Lam 700 $5.00 $3,495.00
Ref: 9361808738 Bet placed: 21:32 04-Nov-09

i took a bit less on the highpriced guys. I know last time i did that the high priced guys did well but ill be happy with just a few $100.
Report VoR November 4, 2009 8:49 PM GMT
always a good thread. going to take one of your tips for the first time, so here's hoping it's lucky.

stuck a couple of quid on gonzalez purely for interest. if he's in the mix come sunday i'll be well chuffed :)
Report Jason Bourne November 4, 2009 9:20 PM GMT
callysboy 04 Nov 18:22
JASON**I WILL SUPPLY YOU WITH MY CONTACT DETAILS AND YOU CAN SHOW ME HOW SMART OR KNOWLEDGEABLE YOUR PICKS ARE.


You don't want to do that son, some nutters let loose on the internet will hack your account or whatever.

All I will say is - Back Mickelson BIG time.
Report anyother November 4, 2009 9:31 PM GMT
"son" .. :^0 .. wánker
Report WhoopSandwiches! November 4, 2009 9:33 PM GMT
Tees of at 12:55? or not...
Report Jason Bourne November 4, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
anyother 04 Nov 22:31
"son" .. .. wánker


Thanks son.
Report mascherano November 4, 2009 10:09 PM GMT
Don't look past Pod this week guys. won't post any details but it's under the thread New Betting System, so if your intrested ...

Outsiders for me ;

J.M. Singh @140
Peter Hedblom @ 350
Wen-Tang Lin @ 270
Mark Brown @ 1000

gl
Report Jason Bourne November 4, 2009 10:28 PM GMT
Hedblom is a great bet @ those odds.
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 4, 2009 10:33 PM GMT
callysboy, you really are a waste of space....posting in capitals this week for some attention, are we??
Report mascherano November 4, 2009 10:35 PM GMT
he is jason. winner this year and also got beat in a playoff. also he has won is asia before. 2007 Maybank Malaysia open
Report Jason Bourne November 4, 2009 10:36 PM GMT
Was on him at the KLM, ended up with nice green but would have liked Hedblom to win.
Report mascherano November 4, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
Mark Brown is also too big at 1000

he is a winner and all of his only win on the Euroean tour came in asia.That doesn't count the wins he has had on the asian tour. also he has had a t3 in China this year.
Report mascherano November 4, 2009 10:38 PM GMT
did you back him the week after ?
Report Jason Bourne November 4, 2009 11:14 PM GMT
No I didn't, can't remember off the top of my head who I did back.
Report mascherano November 4, 2009 11:18 PM GMT
not nice when that happens. back a player a week before he goes on to win.
Report bigjoe November 5, 2009 7:28 AM GMT
Update after round 1.. mixed news :) :(

Levet plays like i do :( and is +5 ... looks out of it already :(

Gonzalez finishes +2 .. needs to go low tomorrow to get into contention..is capable and so i not given up yet ;)

Chih Bing Lam got it to -3 at one stage .. but 2 late bogies sees him at -1, tied 28th .. not out of it and a good round tomorrow could see his 700.0 pre tourny odds look massive ;)

Best of the day for me was Dougherty .. he got it to -6 and was trading at 34.0 from opening 260.0 :0 .. but he too had 2 late bogies to finish at -4, tied 9th and just 4 off the lead with 3 rounds to go :)

Overall not a bad day ... my 700/1 and 260/1 shots done better then the likes of Harrington, poulter, ogilvy and Garcia :0

Leaving my book alone for now....further update to follow after tomorrows 2nd round :)

Good Luck :)
Report Joel November 5, 2009 7:42 AM GMT
:) ;) :( :_| :0 ] :) :| ;\ :D :x
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 5, 2009 8:51 AM GMT
:^0
Report Joel November 5, 2009 8:58 AM GMT
]:)
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 5, 2009 9:03 AM GMT
B-)
Report anyother November 5, 2009 9:06 AM GMT
:p
Report anyother November 5, 2009 9:07 AM GMT
X-(
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 5, 2009 9:12 AM GMT
:8}
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 5, 2009 9:15 AM GMT
?:|
Report mascherano November 5, 2009 3:05 PM GMT
Wen-Tang Lin - 260-1/-5
Mark Brown - 1000-1/-1

other 2 over par. my big bet Pod is not doing well at all.
Report WhoopSandwiches! November 6, 2009 9:50 AM GMT
How long are you gonna keep this 'This weeks golf bets for my cricket buddies....' travesty going. Obviously whats happened here is youve had a couple of lucky punts which have earned you big and in you infinite wisdom have decided they were'nt complete luck but informed gusswork that must be shared with all and sundry....and whats happened now is that the longer you do it the actual likelyhood of random longshots coming in has shown itself and its not completely unfeasable that you'll never pick a random winner(or even a trade worth taking) ever again. But what do i know...perhaps its time to tell us about that gonzalez win again..;-)
Report Jason Bourne November 6, 2009 11:02 AM GMT
Sad to say, but he's right ^^^ Mickelson was the play of the week here, had the practice in Asia last week, got used to the conditions. Superb player to back at the odds on offer.
Report Dec1409 November 6, 2009 11:03 AM GMT
Really don't see what the problem is here. Anyone with half a brain knows what this thread is and I doubt they need it spelling out to them. You either do your research and have a decent bet or you have a couple of quid on LEVET because he's 'playing consistently this year'or DOUGHERTY because he's 'one of my favourite golfers' and in a startling revelation apparently unlike the other golfers in this world class field has the 'potential to go low if he brings his A game'. Why not leave them to it?
Report bigjoe November 6, 2009 11:07 AM GMT
whoopssandwiches.... thanks for that contribution mate :)

Ok, update after round 2 .. and its not good news :(

NONE of my fab 4 are under par.. and with the leaders at -10, including the tiger .. i guess its safe to say that its another losing week :(

Never mind, if whoopssandwiches will forgive me ... i will be trying again next week .. and the week after that.... and every week after that :D

Others can make their own minds up... as far as i am concerned, this fred is about finding MASSIVE price winners for modest stakes.....2 a year will do me ... that means i will settle for 50 losing weeks in a year as long as i can get those 1 or 2 winners at those MASSIVE prices.... If i do not pick 1 or 2 winners in next year, i will give up ... i promise ;)

Good Luck :)
Report bigjoe November 6, 2009 11:23 AM GMT
fair post december..... but at the end of the day.. this fred, weather guess work or not has been a money spinner for me :0

All the bets have been posted up front.. all the trading has been posted with reference numbers..... yes i am having a bad run :( .. but if you want to bring the 30 odd threads so far this year to the top.. you will see the following results:

33 threads.. stakes 40 quid per thread = 1320.00 staked in total

Returns so far:

5 weeks where i layed off my 40 quid stakes and had no loss weeks + 200 quid back :)

675.00 win on cabrera
2147 win on gonzo

Then there were the weeks where i traded out a gurenteed profit as a result of my fab 4 trading lower.. those weeks yielded:

337.00
201.00
137.00
95.00
70
57.00
9.50

So my account currently sstands at

Staked 1320
Returns 3728.50

Profit /loss + 2408

ROI of around 180% on that 1320 quid b-)

So, even after a very bad run, those that followed each thread would be doing nicely.... those that only followed half of them would be doing nicely .... wether you like my reasoning or not ... it works for me ....i can have annother 60 consecutive losing weeks and still be in profit :0

Like i said its others for decide if they want to keep following me for the next 60 weeks.... my reasing will remain the same.... the main thing is that at the prices i back at, they only need to stake a few rupees.. its a bit of fun.. and if the likes of you do not find it interesting ... the simple thing to do is ignore it i reckon ;)

Good Luck :)
Report Jason Bourne November 6, 2009 11:24 AM GMT
We all want you to do well but you're clearly losingn your touch, the reasoning truly does suck most of the time. A little more time analysing everything each week will turn this around, keep going.
Report bigjoe November 6, 2009 11:27 AM GMT
JB... i find players that are massive prices... the reason they are massive prices is either cos they are unknown or out of form.. so my strategy is to find those players and my reasoning is based on the fact that they are overpriced on their POTENTIAL, not form.

If i done it on form, i would get short prices.. there is NO value in golf on short prices.. thats what makes it different to most other sports :)
Report Jason Bourne November 6, 2009 11:31 AM GMT
there is NO value in golf on short prices

Completely disagree, i've traded out on the likes of Tiger and Phil and Kaymer at short odds this year alone, to great effect.
Report bigjoe November 6, 2009 11:56 AM GMT
Well done JB , i meant pre match value, not serious short term trading :) .. .. the likes of westwood garcia, harrington, els etc invariably are around 10.00- 20.00 pre tourny.... to justift those odds they would need to win 2 or 3 events a year just to break even .. and they would need to win about 15 events between them in a year for me to get a return of 180% on my investments if they were my fab 4 each week :(

Yes the downside of me doing 150/1 - 500/1 shots is that i will have a bad run now and again.. but its a strategy that has made me plenty of rupees in the last few years and i will stick with it.

Good Luck :)
Report bigjoe November 6, 2009 11:58 AM GMT
thats win 2 or 3 events each to break even.. around 8 events combined :(
Report Jason Bourne November 6, 2009 12:06 PM GMT
i meant pre match value

So did I.
Report bigjoe November 6, 2009 12:11 PM GMT
Oh ok :(
Report Jason Bourne November 6, 2009 12:18 PM GMT
You gona pick anyone to win from here ? Still money to be made.
Report bigjoe November 6, 2009 12:40 PM GMT
nope JB.. i dont chase :( .. happy to take a hit and wait for next week :)
Report WhoopSandwiches! November 6, 2009 1:28 PM GMT
Nothing to forgive bigjoe. I dont follow it with my hard earns i just read it from time to time, perhaps i'm jinxing it ;-)
Report Jason Bourne November 6, 2009 2:52 PM GMT
OK, all the best next week.
Report tyco161 November 7, 2009 5:35 AM GMT
keep it coming BJ... still having fun and plenty of rupees in the bag to keep coming...
Report anyother November 8, 2009 7:32 AM GMT
Jason**04 Nov 22:20


callysboy 04 Nov 18:22
JASON**I WILL SUPPLY YOU WITH MY CONTACT DETAILS AND YOU CAN SHOW ME HOW SMART OR KNOWLEDGEABLE YOUR PICKS ARE.

You don't want to do that son, some nutters let loose on the internet will hack your account or whatever.

All I will say is - Back Mickelson BIG time.

:0 .. good call .. son .. ;)
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 8, 2009 7:33 AM GMT
i wonder if that grubby little cnut took your advice?? i bet not...

p.s. well done jb
Report Jason Bourne November 8, 2009 10:16 AM GMT
Yep, well done everyone who tailed. Sometimes you just have to take the smaller prices when they look too good to be true. Mickelson's a special player.

Good luck to all next week.
Report callysboy November 8, 2009 2:03 PM GMT
lds a good slap ur needing ya silly little man. JASON**GOT TO TAKE MA HAT OFF TO YOU A CHALLENGED YOU AND LEFTY DONE IT. AND BETTER STILL, A HAD A BIT OF THAT AND LAID THE TIGER AS WELL SO GOT THE DOUBLE WHAMMY. CHEERS JB. KEEP UP THE BANTER.
Report Jason Bourne November 8, 2009 3:51 PM GMT
Good job cally, remember we're all here to make money, let's work together to beat the bookies :)
Report anyother November 8, 2009 5:07 PM GMT
agreed .. instead of sniping bj add your input .. just like you did .. lets face it thats what the forum should be all about .. its the bookies that need to shed tears ;)
Report bigjoe November 9, 2009 7:26 AM GMT
CALLISBOY.. greattttt call mate :D
Report bigjoe November 9, 2009 7:30 AM GMT
Good post Anyother..indeed i encourage everyone to put up their own tips.... i will carry on with my strategy of trying to find that elusive MASSIVE price winner.. golf is the only sport where you can realistically find 200/1 winners :)

Main thing is that this remains a fun thread, people betting with small rupees for potentially big returns :)

Look out for my fab 4 for this weeks hong kong open sometime on wednesday ;)
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 9, 2009 7:31 AM GMT
^ not the call about me joe??
Report bigjoe November 9, 2009 1:50 PM GMT
No LDLS... not the call about you :D
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