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bombaclart
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A 3.30 am UK start.

India look short at 1.73 & at 3-2 down, I'm not entirely sure what warrants that?

One thing is sure for me, if Aus had their full monty out there, it would be 5-0 now. Even the addition of a fully fit Lee may have done that.

Who do you fancy here chaps?

Will India slip into the abyss here?
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Report JustWinBaby November 8, 2009 7:08 AM GMT
Spinners starting to put the squeeze now
Report JustWinBaby November 8, 2009 7:13 AM GMT
Well the squeeze didn't last long

1.01 train about to depart soon
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:14 AM GMT
instinct tells me punter nicked that softly
Report Lies, DamnLies, and Statistics November 8, 2009 7:16 AM GMT
india have bowled 16 overs in an hour - admittedly 8 have been spin, but that is still a pretty good rate

they must be keen to go home...
Report tsango November 8, 2009 7:17 AM GMT
bohemond 08 Nov 08:14
instinct tells me punter nicked that softly


lol "instinct"?? or maybe just the TV?
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:18 AM GMT
from tv it could have been bat hitting pad
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:19 AM GMT
very aggressive watson - always looking to attack
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 7:20 AM GMT
gsm
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:21 AM GMT
can u pay me out now then dougy ?
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:21 AM GMT
wide ump
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 7:24 AM GMT
shot watto you fecking overrated slogger
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 7:24 AM GMT
GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

85-2 19
Report SwindonBoy November 8, 2009 7:24 AM GMT
too late india
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:25 AM GMT
looked bad that - within 15-20 runs of injuns packing it in
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 7:25 AM GMT
Should be. Although wont be easy for new bat with inconsistent bounce and turn.
Report Birchola November 8, 2009 7:25 AM GMT
Bit harsh dougy. He'd made 49.
Report Lori November 8, 2009 7:25 AM GMT
Someone needs to tell ASA that "Yahoo" starts with 'Y'
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:26 AM GMT
punter goes and could be squeaky bum time
Report upthedale November 8, 2009 7:26 AM GMT
never 2late
Report JustWinBaby November 8, 2009 7:27 AM GMT
Need to get punter out now quick smart
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:28 AM GMT
hit him straight over his head wato - not across the line
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:28 AM GMT
white not too clever against spin
Report JustWinBaby November 8, 2009 7:31 AM GMT
Yeah should have sent Hussey IMO
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 7:31 AM GMT
GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 7:32 AM GMT
massive
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 7:32 AM GMT
Get Hussey and its bingo
Report JustWinBaby November 8, 2009 7:33 AM GMT
hmm this is becoming a little interesting now
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:33 AM GMT
ok we have a game -injuns need 2 more within next 30 runs
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 7:34 AM GMT
mr cricket the most likely to get aus home
Report JustWinBaby November 8, 2009 7:34 AM GMT
If only India could have posted a score of 200
Report Richard LL November 8, 2009 7:44 AM GMT
last Jadeyja over, 5 more for Harbj, so looks like they're gonna need sommat special from one of the part timers, i think Aus should just let Hussey see off Harbj.
Report Dado7029 November 8, 2009 7:48 AM GMT
only way for india is to take these two out, reckon the remaining could get skittled
Report flash bookie November 8, 2009 7:49 AM GMT
score pls
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 7:50 AM GMT
106-3

Need another 65
Report Birchola November 8, 2009 7:50 AM GMT
http://www.cricinfo.com/indvaus2009/engine/current/match/416241.html
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 7:50 AM GMT
24 overs left
Report flash bookie November 8, 2009 7:52 AM GMT
have to be an act for god for india to win this
Report anyother November 8, 2009 7:59 AM GMT
schhhhhh .. you'll wake him up !!
Report Dado7029 November 8, 2009 8:01 AM GMT
yeh i think so too, india are finished! Something that indian players need is the training of the South Africans and Australians, they are weak in the field and resemble pop stars not athletes, I must admit that they are talented but in a shane warne kind of manner it can work for a one off but a whole team...I thought they would come through today but the grit and depth of Australia is unparralled, I predicted an Australia series win but changed my mind last two matched due to injuries and hope conditions, I will only leave or back Australia never back against again :) good luck everyone hope you didn't do as badly as me on this series it would be tough to have
Report Dado7029 November 8, 2009 8:02 AM GMT
personally i think zim have more chance of beating South Africa than india has of beating aussies now
Report Lori November 8, 2009 8:07 AM GMT
Okay, so you're nummer one. Smirk
Report flash bookie November 8, 2009 8:07 AM GMT
apart from 3 or 4 stars australia are made up of moderately talented players , however such is their attitude and commitment to the cause that what consistently makes them a world class team and mighty tough opponents . india however have 7or8 stars and through their lack of commitment and imo to play as a group/team that is the difference between them and aus and definitely not ability
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:08 AM GMT
india's bowlers are a bit sh*t though
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:09 AM GMT
Not sure about india having 7 or 8 stars
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:09 AM GMT
here's the match winner
Report anyother November 8, 2009 8:09 AM GMT
rr is creeping up :|
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:09 AM GMT
Ozzies have better players imo
Report flash bookie November 8, 2009 8:11 AM GMT
steptoe praps i exagerated a bit then but cetainly 6 or 7 surely that cannot be argued against
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:13 AM GMT
oh agree. They have some big names who on their day are fantastic.

However havent seen much of it for quite a while.

Were knocked out early of 20/20 wc, champions trophy and now losing to Aussie side with half the side missing
Report flash bookie November 8, 2009 8:16 AM GMT
imo steptoe it is because the indians play for themselves as individuals and not the team but with the aussies you know they wii always always nearly die trying for the cause collectively imo
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:19 AM GMT
Mixture for me. Think Aussies also have plenty of talent

Would have more aussies in a joint side than indians
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:24 AM GMT
sehwag is better than watson
Gambhir is better than Marsh
Tendulkar v Ponting is a tie
Yuvraj is better than White
Hussey is btter than Raina
Dhoni is better than Manou
Johnson is btter than Kumar
Harby is usually better than Hauritz but has been utter w*nk all series
Jadeja v Voges who cares
Nehra v Bollinger tie
Mckay v Patel couldn't call it, not seen enough of clint

That makes it 4-3 to india (giving Aus hauritz over harby this series) with 4 ties

imo of course
Report Complete God November 8, 2009 8:25 AM GMT
Absolute and total nonsense as usual, takes into no accounts merits of fielding. Also completely ignores batters who can bowl and bowlers who can bat. Complete nincompoop.
Report flash bookie November 8, 2009 8:26 AM GMT
plus ponting one of the best leaders on the pitch in last 10yrs
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:27 AM GMT
what in that lsit would you disagree with complete god?
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:28 AM GMT
the difference in the fielding abilities of the sides is massive and highly significant
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:29 AM GMT
if you even attempt to make a claim for watson over sehwag you are not the cricket expert i pegged you for
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:29 AM GMT
I would say that despite his fantastic talent I would give Watson edge over sehwag on current form.

Those knocks in CT semi and final were fantastic and has batted very well again here. Also bowled better than he did in England other than that first game.

Sehwag flatters to deceive too often. Has failed to go on so many times this series
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:30 AM GMT
ok i'll give you bollinger over nehra
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:31 AM GMT
anyone who would have watson in their team over sehwag is just totally feccking loopy if you ask me, no offence SY
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:31 AM GMT
sehwag only plays one way - droped a stinker last match too - of course hugely destructive player but not played a match winning innings this series has he ? watson despite bowling like a drain in the first match has come back well bowling wise
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:32 AM GMT
CT semi final 136 not out

CT final 105

Pretty impressive and no doubt would have got far more credit if ponting or tendulkar had done it
Report anyother November 8, 2009 8:32 AM GMT
in terms of the future and this series i'd have watto over sewage
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:32 AM GMT
yes sy plus big score last match
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:33 AM GMT
Would back watson over sehwag in odi century market every day
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:33 AM GMT
the knock in the final against kiwis when 2 down early with punter gone was very very good
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:34 AM GMT
A couple of good knocks against an awful england side and a possibly worse Kiwi side does not put you on a par with a man who has converted his last 9 test century's into 150+ equalling the Dons record
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:35 AM GMT
the difference in class is staggering
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:35 AM GMT
Test cricket a different issue dougy

If I was picking a joint odi team would have to pick Watson dougy
Report Complete God November 8, 2009 8:35 AM GMT
Reason Aus went 3-2 up was probably the fielding, particularly the runouts. Despite Sachin's undoubted brilliance you have to have Ponting these days as he is a genuine danger at all times in the field, you just can't hit it anywhere near him.

If you worked it out on a player's performance points spread you would go with Watson over Sehwag pretty much every time in current ODIs as he's bowling pretty well and getting important wickets.

Aussies have consistently stepped up when they have needed to at crucial times in this series- completely the opposite of the Ashes it has to be said- but Watson has been MILES better than Sehwag in this series.

If it's who you would rather have as an opener though it's Sehwag, no contest at all.
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:35 AM GMT
if it is sehwags day he will murder u - but it is a big if as he always gives the bowlers a chance and arguably is too loose and takes too many risks

highly unlikely to match tendulkars 170 odd last match as he would have given it away before then as sadly for injuns sachin did when needing 1 a ball for 19 runs
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:37 AM GMT
er we r talking odi not test selection
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:38 AM GMT
The argument was not who was better in this series it's quite obvious sehwag has underperformed by that reasoning you could say cameron white or jadeja is better than sehwag. The argument was who was the better player, sehwag by a mile for me as an opening batsman. 1 spot available at the top of the innings between those two, you pick sehwag every time and if you don't you don't have a clue CG.
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:39 AM GMT
i do agree about ponting over sachin though, just didn't want to cause a riot on here
Report anyother November 8, 2009 8:41 AM GMT
this is a ODI .. there are no tests being played so i assumed we were talking about a ODI team .. and in this format its watto for me .. ;)
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:42 AM GMT
dont agree sewage flatters to deceive too often watson is a dangerous hitter, bowls better and fields better and is younger and probably has more improvement in him - u prob pick him every time from here on in
Report Complete God November 8, 2009 8:42 AM GMT
Your argument was that Watson is a better ODI player than Sehwag, I'd argue that's not true at the moment. Sehwag wouldn't get you 10 wickets in a series like this and is always liable to fail.

Nehra shouldn't be anywhere near a top international side, he has cost them at least one match and probably two in this series alone with his catastrophic fielding. Reminds me of this guy called Fairchild I saw in a school game once. How someone without even the most basic co-ordination can play for a top 3 side in the world is beyond me completely.
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:42 AM GMT
I would still back watson over longer term

Has good odi stats with bat and ball

Has done very well for aussies in last 2 Champions trophy winning teams over last 3 years.

Not doubting for a second the talent of sehwag but still take watsons consistency
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:44 AM GMT
Man of the series in IPL 08 not bad either ;)
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:45 AM GMT
He's very good against very poor bowling on falt decks, technically he's about as good as me, poor mans luke wright imo
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:47 AM GMT
yes and sehwag's ipl form has been largely disappointing - simply goes too hard all the tiem and hits one up in the air

the talent is there but the brain is sadly lacking - a bit like verdasco in tennis
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:47 AM GMT
We will have to agree to disagree dougy :)
Report bohemond November 8, 2009 8:48 AM GMT
sehwag is flawed
Report Alf Awoody November 8, 2009 8:48 AM GMT
But of negative stigma towards Watson on his past coming into play.

In 24 ODI matches Over the past 12 months Watson has -

Scored 1013 runs at an average of 50.65

Taken 29 wickets at an average of 21.41

Hard to argue a case for many players to be included above him Alf would have thought.
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:51 AM GMT
8 of those games were v a very bad england side, 6 against this absolute garbage india attack, probably the worse they've had in 5 years. Not exactly had a tough time of it has he.
Report JustWinBaby November 8, 2009 8:52 AM GMT
Serious question, how many Indians would make a full strength Australian team in ODI's?
Report anyother November 8, 2009 8:55 AM GMT
4 imo ..
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:55 AM GMT
Sehwag
Gambhir
Ponting
Yuvraj
Hussey
Dhoni
Watson
Johnson
Lee
Hauritz
Z Khan
Report Complete God November 8, 2009 8:56 AM GMT
Gambhir better than Tendulkar now is he?
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:56 AM GMT
last 2 years yep
Report Complete God November 8, 2009 8:56 AM GMT
And Hauritz better than Harbhajan? Referee.
Report dougydougy. November 8, 2009 8:57 AM GMT
harbajan has been utter w*nk for ages in odi's mate
Report Complete God November 8, 2009 8:58 AM GMT
Not for ages, no.

2009. Tendulkar 16 Inns, 756 runs, avg 50.40 Gambhir 19 inns, 653 runs, avg. 36.27.

You have no brains whatsoever.
Report STEPTOES YARD November 8, 2009 8:59 AM GMT
Gambhir
Watson
Ponting
Tendulkar
Hussey
Dhoni
Johnson
Harby
Lee
Hauritz
Khan

5 front line bowlers with that batting 6
Report Alf Awoody November 8, 2009 8:59 AM GMT

dougydougy 08 Nov 09:51


8 of those games were v a very bad england side, 6 against this absolute garbage india attack, probably the worse they've had in 5 years. Not exactly had a tough time of it has he.


Away series to India & England Pakistan make up those numbers Doug.

Apart from SA & maybe Sri Lanka who would he need to play that would be harder....

A guy that can post those numbers whilst opening the batting & being a more than handy bowler gives his side so much versatility & depth. Worth there weight in gold.

But hey, sometimes old stereotypes are harder for some than others to give up.
Report West Coast Eagles November 8, 2009 11:11 AM GMT
Australia far too good. Even their second string team is far too good for India.

If India really want to be a force in world cricket, then they need to work on getting two things right.

Finding 2 frontline opening bowlers. Sharma is a gun - he just needs the right coaching, whilst Nehra, Kumar and particularly Munaf are plodders.

Secondly, the middle order batsmen need to learn how to tough it out.

Ah well, no point crying over spilt win. Australia too good, back to the drawing board for India.
Report anyother November 8, 2009 11:48 AM GMT
what happened to singh and sreesanth
Report Innocent Bystander November 8, 2009 11:48 AM GMT
Wasnt Harpy Singh injured - and Sreesanth sectioned?
Report anyother November 8, 2009 1:53 PM GMT
:^0
Report bombaclart November 8, 2009 4:00 PM GMT
west coast - you forgot the 3rd one

they have to get professional about their fielding. it has been worth 20-40 runs to aussie in some of these games in this series. drops, lazy running, no backing up, they had it all.

appalling.
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