New Posts For Thread: Ashes - 4th Test, Old Trafford - Manchester - Sep 04-Sep08https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08Bit of a break before the next match but thought I'd get the thread up early.England slightly favoured in the odds but the reality is there's not much between these 2 teams.Steve Smith likely to come back in for AustraliaJimmy Anderson has to prove hThe problem for the last few years has been Englands batting and there is no sign of it improving as years ago for e.g. 2005 the top 6 were regular tried and trusted batters at test match level whereas now out of the top 6 there is only 2 possibly 3https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557934559#557934559The problem for the last few years has been Englands batting and there is no sign of it improving as years ago for e.g. 2005 the top 6 were regular tried and trusted batters at test match level whereas now out of the top 6 there is only 2 possibly 3Mon, 09 Sep 2019 16:27:28 -0500Couple of things.Test cricket, it doesnt really matter any more does it?The english and aussie players will pay lip service to the ashes but we all know their bread and butter is going to be white ball cricket.Before this series 8 of the 9 last asheshttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557931185#557931185Couple of things.Test cricket, it doesnt really matter any more does it?The english and aussie players will pay lip service to the ashes but we all know their bread and butter is going to be white ball cricket.Before this series 8 of the 9 last ashesMon, 09 Sep 2019 03:26:20 -0500indeed extremely unlikely to continue to average 64 long term and however many scores in a row of 50 and above against england. only bradman has put up those sort of numbers for a prolonged spellhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929931#557929931indeed extremely unlikely to continue to average 64 long term and however many scores in a row of 50 and above against england. only bradman has put up those sort of numbers for a prolonged spellSun, 08 Sep 2019 19:03:05 -0500SontaranStratagem seethinghttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929913#557929913SontaranStratagem seethingSun, 08 Sep 2019 18:56:43 -0500That was an Australian team without Smith and Warner thohttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929881#557929881That was an Australian team without Smith and Warner thoSun, 08 Sep 2019 18:45:34 -0500"the scary thing is Smith is only getting better" I highly doubt that, he'll soon be on the decline rapidly and once you take him out that side Australia are awful batting wise Cummins et al will be constantly defending sub 200 scores as the rest jushttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929805#557929805"the scary thing is Smith is only getting better" I highly doubt that, he'll soon be on the decline rapidly and once you take him out that side Australia are awful batting wise Cummins et al will be constantly defending sub 200 scores as the rest jusSun, 08 Sep 2019 18:20:38 -0500I think we'd see a different England once Root is offed as captain and Bayliss replaced with someone like Vaughan Something needs to change before we tour Australia again because the last 2 have been absolutely pitiful and another 4-0 even 5-0 is onhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929777#557929777I think we'd see a different England once Root is offed as captain and Bayliss replaced with someone like Vaughan Something needs to change before we tour Australia again because the last 2 have been absolutely pitiful and another 4-0 even 5-0 is onSun, 08 Sep 2019 18:17:27 -0500The Injuns beat them though by playing percentage cricket with the batPudjy & Kholi wore them down and that allowed the middle order to take advantage of tiring bowlershttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929711#557929711The Injuns beat them though by playing percentage cricket with the batPudjy & Kholi wore them down and that allowed the middle order to take advantage of tiring bowlersSun, 08 Sep 2019 18:01:45 -0500"Take Steve Smith out and we are very similar teams" RootWhat fallacious and disingenuous tripeFùck off Root, you spinless weaselhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929703#557929703"Take Steve Smith out and we are very similar teams" RootWhat fallacious and disingenuous tripeFùck off Root, you spinless weaselSun, 08 Sep 2019 17:59:54 -0500The Aussie quicks have been outstanding, completely agree with that.Have really enjoyed watching Cummins and Hazlewood who are probably the best opening bowling combination I've seen.If this current England team were to tour Australia it would be 5-0https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/31571297/ashes---4th-test-old-trafford---manchester---sep-04-sep08?post_id=557929445#557929445The Aussie quicks have been outstanding, completely agree with that.Have really enjoyed watching Cummins and Hazlewood who are probably the best opening bowling combination I've seen.If this current England team were to tour Australia it would be 5-0Sun, 08 Sep 2019 16:50:42 -0500