New Posts For Thread: 4th Test - England v South Africa at Old Traffordhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-traffordSome good first innings scores, and some not so good, and I assume the overheads had a lot to do with that.Forecast looks showery first 2 or 3 days, and could be a case of wickets from on and off play and periods of gloom.Was going to start with theoh and modesty prohibits me from saying what a good Captain I was!https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552546977#552546977oh and modesty prohibits me from saying what a good Captain I was!Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:55:23 -0500DTCome on!I was a batsman, bowler, fielder. One of my nicknames was Straightbat. I remember a friend telling me a story about a bowler on his side who thought one of the batsmen was vunerable to short bowling outside off stump. He got his man with ahttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552546957#552546957DTCome on!I was a batsman, bowler, fielder. One of my nicknames was Straightbat. I remember a friend telling me a story about a bowler on his side who thought one of the batsmen was vunerable to short bowling outside off stump. He got his man with aThu, 10 Aug 2017 10:53:50 -0500I remember Waqar Younis saying something like I loved when batsmen hit me for a boundary because it filled them confidence and they'd play more freely allowing me to get them with a toe crusher.I thought you were a batsman WD.https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552545869#552545869I remember Waqar Younis saying something like I loved when batsmen hit me for a boundary because it filled them confidence and they'd play more freely allowing me to get them with a toe crusher.I thought you were a batsman WD.Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:45:19 -0500Personally I liked it when somebody hit me through the covers. I felt I could change my pace, angle, width and length and invariably got him and I can tell you nobody hit 150 plus before they proved me right!https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552545813#552545813Personally I liked it when somebody hit me through the covers. I felt I could change my pace, angle, width and length and invariably got him and I can tell you nobody hit 150 plus before they proved me right!Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:39:01 -0500yeah true but he is such a good bowler. I guess that is why I was perhaps a bit harsh.https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552545795#552545795yeah true but he is such a good bowler. I guess that is why I was perhaps a bit harsh.Thu, 10 Aug 2017 08:37:22 -0500bit harsh to put all the blame on morkel. obviously philander not being able to bowl a full allocation was a big factor and rabada and morris were absolutely awful in the first innings at the oval350 was at least 100 above par in those conditions. suhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552545133#552545133bit harsh to put all the blame on morkel. obviously philander not being able to bowl a full allocation was a big factor and rabada and morris were absolutely awful in the first innings at the oval350 was at least 100 above par in those conditions. suThu, 10 Aug 2017 07:21:31 -0500Yeah I think you are both right a little. I remember Mike Hendrick. Used to bowl on the spot every ball. On a length, just short maybe, outside off, consistently moving the ball away and going past the edge. I dont think he ever took 5 wickets in anhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552544805#552544805Yeah I think you are both right a little. I remember Mike Hendrick. Used to bowl on the spot every ball. On a length, just short maybe, outside off, consistently moving the ball away and going past the edge. I dont think he ever took 5 wickets in anThu, 10 Aug 2017 06:26:34 -0500Correct. And 'its how he bowls' happens because SA bowlers for the last 7-8 years have worked in partnerships. Phil, Morne and Steyn were a deadly attack. Morne wasn't anywhere near them but did his job well. I think with their coaching setup being thttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552539927#552539927Correct. And 'its how he bowls' happens because SA bowlers for the last 7-8 years have worked in partnerships. Phil, Morne and Steyn were a deadly attack. Morne wasn't anywhere near them but did his job well. I think with their coaching setup being tWed, 09 Aug 2017 15:45:41 -0500It's how he bowls. Like a lot of really tall bowlers, he probably is better pitching it up a bit more but he does then bowl too full and get cover driven a fair bit. I think you're being a bit harsh on him, if not entirely unfair.https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552536699#552536699It's how he bowls. Like a lot of really tall bowlers, he probably is better pitching it up a bit more but he does then bowl too full and get cover driven a fair bit. I think you're being a bit harsh on him, if not entirely unfair.Wed, 09 Aug 2017 11:04:55 -0500I just wondered if anyone agrees with me that Morne Morkel has possibily cost SA the series?Ok a bit harsh. The thing usually bowls too short and too wide.Too wide you can leave.Too short you can leave but if you don't and he gets it to seam the ballhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/30911425/4th-test---england-v-south-africa-at-old-trafford?post_id=552535947#552535947I just wondered if anyone agrees with me that Morne Morkel has possibily cost SA the series?Ok a bit harsh. The thing usually bowls too short and too wide.Too wide you can leave.Too short you can leave but if you don't and he gets it to seam the ballWed, 09 Aug 2017 09:51:17 -0500