New Posts For Thread: England v New Zealand 2nd ODIhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odiI won't be laying England again today, fancy a much stronger bowling attack to be selected.Bets are A Cook top England BatsmanM Guptill and K Williamson Dutched top New Zealand Batsman.Good luck chaps (with the exception of mugmax)Jimmyjammy. For once I didhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532776287#532776287Jimmyjammy. For once I didMon, 03 Jun 2013 04:17:54 -0500Amusing thread. The red turkeys were never chasing 360 in their wildest dreams. They wouldn't if my mother bowled at them. Free monies for all. Hope you cashed inhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532769783#532769783Amusing thread. The red turkeys were never chasing 360 in their wildest dreams. They wouldn't if my mother bowled at them. Free monies for all. Hope you cashed inSun, 02 Jun 2013 17:58:46 -0500Too many average players.... Woakes, Butler, Dernbach, Morgan. Then you got the defensive batsman. Cook, Trott and Bell.https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532768873#532768873Too many average players.... Woakes, Butler, Dernbach, Morgan. Then you got the defensive batsman. Cook, Trott and Bell.Sun, 02 Jun 2013 17:09:21 -0500england have actually been very good in one dayers over the the past couple of years especially at homebit concerning that the depth of our bowling resources has been exposed in these 2 games. obviously in tests you only need 4 bowlers and with swannhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532766445#532766445england have actually been very good in one dayers over the the past couple of years especially at homebit concerning that the depth of our bowling resources has been exposed in these 2 games. obviously in tests you only need 4 bowlers and with swannSun, 02 Jun 2013 15:30:42 -0500Egland have been up and down for about twenty years now inthe fifty over game. Pull off some really good series wins interspersed with an equal nmber of abject performances. In fact the fact weve been outplayed by NZ here means we are probably duehttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532762993#532762993Egland have been up and down for about twenty years now inthe fifty over game. Pull off some really good series wins interspersed with an equal nmber of abject performances. In fact the fact weve been outplayed by NZ here means we are probably dueSun, 02 Jun 2013 13:34:59 -0500Mick,I think the point is at the moment it doesn't matter. The other batsmen are a bigger problem. Trott isn't the problem just symptomatic of not being the answer to England's needs. The biggest problem is selection. Dernbach and Woakes are nothttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532762357#532762357Mick,I think the point is at the moment it doesn't matter. The other batsmen are a bigger problem. Trott isn't the problem just symptomatic of not being the answer to England's needs. The biggest problem is selection. Dernbach and Woakes are notSun, 02 Jun 2013 13:11:30 -0500WhisperingdeathIt is well known Trott needs to play himself in, so Bell had no need to go after the bowling as he did at that time. Trott had played 14 dot balls, Bell could have just tried to nudge it around for a while, England were well ahead of thttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532761769#532761769WhisperingdeathIt is well known Trott needs to play himself in, so Bell had no need to go after the bowling as he did at that time. Trott had played 14 dot balls, Bell could have just tried to nudge it around for a while, England were well ahead of tSun, 02 Jun 2013 12:47:02 -0500not much point picking holes in the batting when chasing such a huge total. sure they batted poorly on friday but it was lost today by having 17 overs of dross served up by dernbach and woakes. 300 was probably around par on that tracki'm sure trotthttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532761531#532761531not much point picking holes in the batting when chasing such a huge total. sure they batted poorly on friday but it was lost today by having 17 overs of dross served up by dernbach and woakes. 300 was probably around par on that tracki'm sure trottSun, 02 Jun 2013 12:37:37 -0500you wont win many odis with Bell, Cook and Trott batting 123 and woakes, bresnan and dernbach bowling all in the same team-and it doesnt matter how well you think bres and woakes can bathow long before Ashley "gets it" if at all?https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532761463#532761463you wont win many odis with Bell, Cook and Trott batting 123 and woakes, bresnan and dernbach bowling all in the same team-and it doesnt matter how well you think bres and woakes can bathow long before Ashley "gets it" if at all?Sun, 02 Jun 2013 12:34:43 -0500as i said earlier its always worth a punt on there being a run out when Trott is batting.That particular stat has shown a reasonable profit in 1 day ODI matches.Its not the twaddle remark that 1 person suggested it was.Its factGood luck allhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29952171/england-v-new-zealand-2nd-odi?post_id=532761459#532761459as i said earlier its always worth a punt on there being a run out when Trott is batting.That particular stat has shown a reasonable profit in 1 day ODI matches.Its not the twaddle remark that 1 person suggested it was.Its factGood luck allSun, 02 Jun 2013 12:34:34 -0500