New Posts For Thread: Flintoff on Athertonhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-athertonnever to be outdone by KP, Flintoff seems to have taken his turn at having a pop at a sky commentator who upset him."Flintoff's rage was sparked by Atherton's criticism of several current England players, with Atherton's analysis clearly infuriatingActually re: Hick, with hindsight Athers is more nuanced in defending his declaration. Basically I think he says that it was in principle the right decision, taking all emotion out of it, given the match situation; but with hindsight he would not hahttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521182809#521182809Actually re: Hick, with hindsight Athers is more nuanced in defending his declaration. Basically I think he says that it was in principle the right decision, taking all emotion out of it, given the match situation; but with hindsight he would not haSun, 24 Jun 2012 02:31:00 -0500Without doubt Athers is, to steal a chapter heading about him from a Michael Parkinson book, 'A great Englishman'.Still not without his faults though, he was definitely 'at it' with the dirt in the pocket & declaring on Hick was nothing short of shamhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521181313#521181313Without doubt Athers is, to steal a chapter heading about him from a Michael Parkinson book, 'A great Englishman'.Still not without his faults though, he was definitely 'at it' with the dirt in the pocket & declaring on Hick was nothing short of shamSat, 23 Jun 2012 23:41:38 -0500those cook figures are a bit disingenuous dougydougy, as you have to look at how many balls cook has actually faced against those bowlers and also at what point of those great bowlers' careers.i also think there are an absolute raft of additional, anhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521162063#521162063those cook figures are a bit disingenuous dougydougy, as you have to look at how many balls cook has actually faced against those bowlers and also at what point of those great bowlers' careers.i also think there are an absolute raft of additional, anSat, 23 Jun 2012 10:48:34 -0500Could also point out that Athers suffered from a debilitating back condition which increasingly restricted him as his career progressed.The interesting question is "who was the better bowler?" ;)https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521147869#521147869Could also point out that Athers suffered from a debilitating back condition which increasingly restricted him as his career progressed.The interesting question is "who was the better bowler?" ;)Sat, 23 Jun 2012 03:36:16 -0500To be fair to Athers, a surprisingly large number of his dismissals by McGrath would have been overturned on DRS! ;)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFXSTi56Bekhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521147845#521147845To be fair to Athers, a surprisingly large number of his dismissals by McGrath would have been overturned on DRS! ;)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFXSTi56BekSat, 23 Jun 2012 03:34:42 -0500so cook scores runs against a bowling attack and they are junk, Sut if he fails against someone (amir for example) then he is rubbish.All those figures prove is that when athers faced decent bowling he did no good against it, so yes he faced decent bhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521146717#521146717so cook scores runs against a bowling attack and they are junk, Sut if he fails against someone (amir for example) then he is rubbish.All those figures prove is that when athers faced decent bowling he did no good against it, so yes he faced decent bSat, 23 Jun 2012 01:44:29 -0500Has the medication not kicked in at this early hour? Those figures go towards defeating your own argument as they explain completely why Atherton's average was not considerably higher, ie it was dragged down by having to face such quality bowling onhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521146505#521146505Has the medication not kicked in at this early hour? Those figures go towards defeating your own argument as they explain completely why Atherton's average was not considerably higher, ie it was dragged down by having to face such quality bowling onSat, 23 Jun 2012 01:28:38 -0500Athers averages against the top bowlers of his dayv Mcgrath 9.89v Walsh 22.64v Ambrose 25.76v Donald 30.63v Warne 32.20v Pollock 20.50v Waqar 26.00v Akram 25.00He did however average over 100 againstprasad, priest, Mbangwa, Hirwana, Abdul Razzaq, Nathttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521146341#521146341Athers averages against the top bowlers of his dayv Mcgrath 9.89v Walsh 22.64v Ambrose 25.76v Donald 30.63v Warne 32.20v Pollock 20.50v Waqar 26.00v Akram 25.00He did however average over 100 againstprasad, priest, Mbangwa, Hirwana, Abdul Razzaq, NatSat, 23 Jun 2012 01:15:51 -0500I'd also forgotten how easy it was to neutralise Curtly by thrusting the front foot down the pitch!https://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521146151#521146151I'd also forgotten how easy it was to neutralise Curtly by thrusting the front foot down the pitch!Sat, 23 Jun 2012 00:58:00 -0500Aye it were tougher in my dayhttps://community.betfair.com/cricket/go/thread/view/94046/29192801/flintoff-on-atherton?post_id=521146103#521146103Aye it were tougher in my daySat, 23 Jun 2012 00:54:35 -0500