WARNING ENERGY SMART METERS

I switched providers tother day. I went with the cheapest one who wasn't forcing a smart meter on me. I got a rate of 2.016p/kWh and a standing charge of 24.5p/Day

I refuse to pay a daily standing charge.

Every town should have someone to take care of Joe Public's accounts. Like that online thing that just started up. Their claim is that you hand over control of your energy accounts to them and then every year they switch you to the cheapest one. Why hasn't every town got one of those imo?

smart meters aside, anyone who doesn't change power deals every year is burning money.

Smart A rse - i'm talking electric - not gas!

comparison sites cannot compete and never compare my tarrif with their best on offer

Leccy was 12.667p/kWh and a standing charge of 20.833p/Day

Electricity with Bulb

Day unit rate
16.45p per kWh
Night unit rate
7.46p per kWh
Standing charge
19.79p per day

Big energy drain is oven.wasHong machine. From china? Bit ass  tv aka bat.  pc. I use up 65 ponds or pounds a month. Two quid a day. I pay in advance to stop bills coming. Use an old bill with complete bar code. My gas got out of hand. That company is out of order. BBritish gas. First to slam yoh for any delay. I managed to get a payment card and pay them I'm advance too. Let a bill come in for three months and you get wound up by how much they want.
I had a spspreadsheet with auautomated calculation to show what every machone was using?  I was using what they said.

But. They charge a flat fee at start. If I use no gas I still have to pay 35 x4 . 140 . Thus meter is pre 1990. The pipes the same. They are jokers.

Tomorrows  charges by half hour
00 - 00:30    5.96 p/kWh
00:30 - 01:00    5.73 p/kWh
01:00 - 01:30    5.08 p/kWh
01:30 - 02:00    5.08 p/kWh
02:00 - 02:30    4.62 p/kWh
02:30 - 03:00    3.47 p/kWh
03:00 - 03:30    4.62 p/kWh
03:30 - 04:00    3.70 p/kWh
04:00 - 04:30    4.62 p/kWh
04:30 - 05:00    4.71 p/kWh
05:00 - 05:30    4.16 p/kWh
05:30 - 06:00    5.54 p/kWh
06:00 - 06:30    6.01 p/kWh
06:30 - 07:00    6.24 p/kWh
07:00 - 07:30    5.22 p/kWh
07:30 - 08:00    6.74 p/kWh
08:00 - 08:30    6.93 p/kWh
08:30 - 09:00    7.39 p/kWh
09:00 - 09:30    7.39 p/kWh
09:30 - 10:00    6.47 p/kWh
10:00 - 10:30    6.22 p/kWh
10:30 - 11:00    5.73 p/kWh
11:00 - 11:30    5.66 p/kWh
11:30 - 12:00    5.64 p/kWh
12:00 - 12:30    6.24 p/kWh
12:30 - 13:00    6.01 p/kWh
13:00 - 13:30    4.62 p/kWh
13:30 - 14:00    3.23 p/kWh
14:00 - 14:30    3.35 p/kWh
14:30 - 15:00    2.79 p/kWh
15:00 - 15:30    2.54 p/kWh
15:30 - 16:00    3.23 p/kWh
16:00 - 16:30    15.99 p/kWh
16:30 - 17:00    17.68 p/kWh
17:00 - 17:30    17.68 p/kWh
17:30 - 18:00    18.61 p/kWh
18:00 - 18:30    19.99 p/kWh
18:30 - 19:00    20.45 p/kWh
19:00 - 19:30    7.93 p/kWh
19:30 - 20:00    7.55 p/kWh
20:00 - 20:30    6.93 p/kWh
20:30 - 21:00    6.24 p/kWh
21:00 - 21:30    6.84 p/kWh
21:30 - 22:00    6.01 p/kWh
22:00 - 22:30    6.95 p/kWh
22:30 - 23:00    5.80 p/kWh

Tomorrow will be a typical day for me so far - not the dearest and nowhere near the cheapest

Last week I got paid for using electricity when rates on the National Grid turned negative.

The wind blew and the sun shone and they had to dump electricity

Todays costs
#
28th May 2020
29th May 2020
Period    Price (inc. VAT)
00:00 - 00:30    6.01 p/kWh
00:30 - 01:00    5.73 p/kWh
01:00 - 01:30    4.62 p/kWh
01:30 - 02:00    4.53 p/kWh
02:00 - 02:30    4.14 p/kWh
02:30 - 03:00    3.70 p/kWh
03:00 - 03:30    3.93 p/kWh
03:30 - 04:00    3.47 p/kWh
04:00 - 04:30    3.70 p/kWh
04:30 - 05:00    3.47 p/kWh
05:00 - 05:30    3.89 p/kWh
05:30 - 06:00    5.08 p/kWh
06:00 - 06:30    5.75 p/kWh
06:30 - 07:00    6.32 p/kWh
07:00 - 07:30    4.85 p/kWh
07:30 - 08:00    7.39 p/kWh
08:00 - 08:30    7.30 p/kWh
08:30 - 09:00    7.39 p/kWh
09:00 - 09:30    7.39 p/kWh
09:30 - 10:00    6.93 p/kWh
10:00 - 10:30    6.37 p/kWh
10:30 - 11:00    5.54 p/kWh
11:00 - 11:30    5.54 p/kWh
11:30 - 12:00    5.82 p/kWh
12:00 - 12:30    6.51 p/kWh
12:30 - 13:00    6.47 p/kWh
13:00 - 13:30    6.47 p/kWh
13:30 - 14:00    5.08 p/kWh
14:00 - 14:30    4.62 p/kWh
14:30 - 15:00    4.35 p/kWh
15:00 - 15:30    3.93 p/kWh
15:30 - 16:00    4.53 p/kWh
16:00 - 16:30    17.22 p/kWh
16:30 - 17:00    19.07 p/kWh
17:00 - 17:30    18.38 p/kWh
17:30 - 18:00    19.53 p/kWh
18:00 - 18:30    20.34 p/kWh
18:30 - 19:00    20.34 p/kWh
19:00 - 19:30    7.85 p/kWh
19:30 - 20:00    7.39 p/kWh
20:00 - 20:30    7.74 p/kWh
20:30 - 21:00    6.93 p/kWh
21:00 - 21:30    7.62 p/kWh
21:30 - 22:00    5.91 p/kWh
22:00 - 22:30    6.93 p/kWh
22:30 - 23:00    4.92 p/kWh
23:00 - 23:30    6.93 p/kWh
23:30 - 00:00    6.93 p/kWh

Todays costs
#
28th May 2020
29th May 2020
Period    Price (inc. VAT)
00:00 - 00:30    6.01 p/kWh
00:30 - 01:00    5.73 p/kWh
01:00 - 01:30    4.62 p/kWh
01:30 - 02:00    4.53 p/kWh
02:00 - 02:30    4.14 p/kWh
02:30 - 03:00    3.70 p/kWh
03:00 - 03:30    3.93 p/kWh
03:30 - 04:00    3.47 p/kWh
04:00 - 04:30    3.70 p/kWh
04:30 - 05:00    3.47 p/kWh
05:00 - 05:30    3.89 p/kWh
05:30 - 06:00    5.08 p/kWh
06:00 - 06:30    5.75 p/kWh
06:30 - 07:00    6.32 p/kWh
07:00 - 07:30    4.85 p/kWh
07:30 - 08:00    7.39 p/kWh
08:00 - 08:30    7.30 p/kWh
08:30 - 09:00    7.39 p/kWh
09:00 - 09:30    7.39 p/kWh
09:30 - 10:00    6.93 p/kWh
10:00 - 10:30    6.37 p/kWh
10:30 - 11:00    5.54 p/kWh
11:00 - 11:30    5.54 p/kWh
11:30 - 12:00    5.82 p/kWh
12:00 - 12:30    6.51 p/kWh
12:30 - 13:00    6.47 p/kWh
13:00 - 13:30    6.47 p/kWh
13:30 - 14:00    5.08 p/kWh
14:00 - 14:30    4.62 p/kWh
14:30 - 15:00    4.35 p/kWh
15:00 - 15:30    3.93 p/kWh
15:30 - 16:00    4.53 p/kWh
16:00 - 16:30    17.22 p/kWh
16:30 - 17:00    19.07 p/kWh
17:00 - 17:30    18.38 p/kWh
17:30 - 18:00    19.53 p/kWh
18:00 - 18:30    20.34 p/kWh
18:30 - 19:00    20.34 p/kWh
19:00 - 19:30    7.85 p/kWh
19:30 - 20:00    7.39 p/kWh
20:00 - 20:30    7.74 p/kWh
20:30 - 21:00    6.93 p/kWh
21:00 - 21:30    7.62 p/kWh
21:30 - 22:00    5.91 p/kWh
22:00 - 22:30    6.93 p/kWh
22:30 - 23:00    4.92 p/kWh
23:00 - 23:30    6.93 p/kWh
23:30 - 00:00    6.93 p/kWh

May's electricity bill was 2.53p  per unit

Way better than April's average of 4.37p

This for a 3 bed detached.
Gas bill for month a further £12


(28th April 2020 - 27th May 2020)
Energy Charges for Meter 19L3666288
Total consumption for period
Start reading End reading Consumption ‡
457.4 kWh 791.9 kWh 334.5 kWh
Breakdown by rate
Rate Consumption Cost
2.53p/kWh 334.3 kWh £8.451
Total consumption 334.3kWh @ 2.53p/kWh † £8.45
Standing Charge 30 days @ 20.00p/day £6.00
Subtotal of charges before VAT £14.45
VAT @ 5.00% £0.72
Total Electricity Charges £15.17
† Average unit rate charged per kilowatt-hour

dave how does this compare favourably with your changing every year using comparison sites?

dave how does this compare favourably with your changing every year using comparison sites?

dave how does this compare favourably with your changing every year using comparison sites?

dave how does this compare favourably with your changing every year using comparison sites?

dave how does this compare favourably with your changing every year using comparison sites?

there appears to be an echo on here :)

Certainly a waste of energy post repeating 5 times.Probably a value for money thing.

I'm with Smar tarse ;don't want a meter...changed electric to Octopus....efficient and cheap

posy - look up Octopus Agile tariff

needs a smart meter - they will install -  if asked - tell them you are getting an electric car and they may expedite the changeover

also  - if you are on a fixed rate actively check you are on the very cheapest available - they will let you switch without penalty mid term ( as you know!)

They not only switched me upon request but then backdated my gas bills and credited me with the difference , cheaper, rate for a 2 months .

Do not just read/ accept them when they say on your monthly bill that you are already on the cheapest tariff; in my experience this was not true.
For anyone else - switching to Octopus is a doddle- they do the work .
100% Green .
To do what i've done just join on the ir best rate . Once done ask them for a smart meter. Then switch to Agile. And if you want a £50 joining credit  ask me .

They even answer the phone within a few minutes - even during Covid
Whats not to like?

If you sit in the dark between 1600 & 1900 you will be quids in.

yup - today between 4pm-7pm you'll pay 20p or less per unit

this afgternoon its 2-3p per unit. - so thats a cylinder of hot water + a washing load + dishwasher for 15p in total

I know which is cheaper

21 hours cheaper v 3 hours dearer.
No brainer :)

I think the you are getting an exaggerated effect because the energy markets are overflowing with cheap power.  But the principle does seem good.

dave - i understand and you could be right - if i can find it i'll post up a link with a graph detailing 18 months on this tariff with daily highs and lows -  before joining i did see that last year their were 31 'price plunges'- days on which electricity cost fell below 2p
believe are
I was previously with one of the big 6 - and they were utterly appalling to deal with - so much so that I made them pay repeatedly for dire service/ broken promises and even  and outright lies...
I am personally delighted with my current supplier who are innovative , are undermining the very big players - are still able to make a profit and are acting to everyones advantage.

https://www.energy-stats.uk/octopus-agile-south-eastern-england/