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Report Cliftonhill Albion • August 12, 2019 9:00 PM BST
£427K down.

"I know it's not been a fantastic fantastic time for you - we've put a £100 bonus in your account"

Disgusting.
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 9:00 PM BST
dirty vile filth coonts is what they are. and thats coming from a successful gambler thats made it my living for 25 years.
Report Coachbuster • August 12, 2019 9:07 PM BST
the UK has become like the Wild west
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:08 PM BST
Don't sign up to them is my advice

I decided to self exclude from the 2 casino accounts I had (Casumo and 21 Casino), I signed up to the other big ones (Leo Vegas, Videoslots and 888) and self excluded from them as well. Then self excluded from Betfairs casino as well.

DO NOT even put a "cheeky tenner" through those slots, you'll be hooked and its bloody hard to pack it in once you are. I lost nearly 2k before realising they are a massive money guzzling con. And they have these "megaways" slots now that offer up massive wins, 10,000x type wins, do not fall for them as they are massively programmed and its so obvious to notice the pattern of play on them once you've played them a good while.

CON!!!!!
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:11 PM BST
These casino streamers that live stream them are just as bad as well, they offer prize giveaways on their sites/channels but.... you need to sign up to a casino through their links

Absolute vermin, and when they proclaim to be fighting the casino with you it really does make my blood boil.
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:13 PM BST
Stick to horse racing/football/tennis/golf etc

I've never once found myself "tilting" when having a horse bet etc, but those slots made me want to deposit more and more

"oh ill just have another £20 and that's it" soon became £100
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 9:18 PM BST
what does my head in with these scum that if you are clever enough to actually beat them you cant get two bob on in any of there shops.no winners allowed.as the vip manager said mugs only.people like ray winston promoting for bet 3.65 should be ashamed of himself.
Report UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 9:19 PM BST
We should not discourage the mugs

it is necessary for somebody to lose in order for others to win
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:21 PM BST
The amount of casino offers I got emailed was shameful as well, superjudge

"come and bet £25 and we'll give you 10 free spins" CrazyCrazy at 10p stake CrazyCrazy

UBLE

Yeah when it comes to something they can possibly pick out winners in, an element of skill involved, not spinning at £10 on a slot with an RTP of 91% CryCryCry

They openly admit to that. Basically stealing money off you and get away with it scot free because its "entertainment"

How is doing your b0llucks in "entertainment" ffs
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:22 PM BST
More fun in nailing your b0llucks to some sandpaper
Report Injera • August 12, 2019 9:23 PM BST
Betfair often email me saying they've put 'some free spins' in my non existent casino account.

Thankfully I'm just about wise enough not to touch it.
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:24 PM BST
Oh the 5 free spins per month?

Just to entice you over... that's how it starts, injera
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 9:26 PM BST
uble/regy i want to take money of bookmakers not people with an illness.find your comment pretty harsh.
Report Coachbuster • August 12, 2019 9:32 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 9:26PM, superjudge wrote:


uble/regy i want to take money of bookmakers not people with an illness.find your comment pretty harsh.


what superjudge says

Report Injera • August 12, 2019 9:32 PM BST
SS - more than once I've been tempted to have a look but I'm not that stupid. I pity youngsters who are bombarded with this stuff.

I'll give it 3 years then ALL betting advertising will be banned. Typical govts, reacting to a problem that they helped to create.
Report Coachbuster • August 12, 2019 9:33 PM BST
closing down the betting shops in deprived areas would  also be a start
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 9:34 PM BST
lets hope so injera. it should be.
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 9:34 PM BST
UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 9:19 PM BST
We should not discourage the mugs

it is necessary for somebody to lose in order for others to win


Whilst it's true in betting on sports especially racing unfortunately nowadays the mug money goes on casino games then straight into bookie/casino coffers and not into sports and racing markets,if they did still bet on racing it could bolster the prospect of getting a fair bet on instead of the dire state it is now.
Report Coachbuster • August 12, 2019 9:35 PM BST
I noticed on one sink estate a betting shop was the only one standing ...everyone around it had shut up shop - literally
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:36 PM BST
They prey on the addictive personality traits

A lot of these slot providers are now producing slots with in "in game features" that can "tease"

Like the Genie Jackpot Megaways, the game lags and it gives a tease on the genie popping out, A LOT of slots like this now

It absolutely "tilts" the addicted players out there,

And there's the slot providers providing a "buy feature" option CrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCryCryCry, its just a mega fleecing, and to advertise it and promote is morally wrong
Report Coachbuster • August 12, 2019 9:40 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 9:34PM, DenzilPenberthy wrote:


UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 9:19 PM BSTWe should not discourage the mugsit is necessary for somebody to lose in order for others to win Whilst it's true in betting on sports especially racing unfortunately nowadays the mug money goes on casino games then straight into bookie/casino coffers and not into sports and racing markets,if they did still bet on racing it could bolster the prospect of getting a fair bet on instead of the dire state it is now.


an ideal situation for the exchange i think is if recreational punters who have a good strategy lock horns with each other and  the winners can win at a  slow steady  rate   ... it has recently been hijacked by bots, previously FPMs ...   so called 'mug punters' tend to be influenced by loads of free bets  ,bells and whistles  and  pictures of half naked women on the casino

Report UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 9:41 PM BST
uble/regy i want to take money of bookmakers not people with an illness.find your comment pretty harsh.

It is the reality superjudge…..not everybody can win

We should encourage people onto the exchanges, they get better odds and increases liquidity for everybody

I have no argument in governments closing down the casino side of gambling
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:43 PM BST
Its not just a case of the casino luring people in

The slots are massively different to your old "bandits" of yesteryear, a totally different animal from the past

3 reel and 5 reel slots have been replaced with "ways" and "megaways" slots. They offer up massive x wins and are massively addictive with all the new gimmicks within the game itself, all of them offer up in game features as well the usual traditional "feature trigger", there's slots out there that have increasing multipliers and cascading wins

Having played them you can easily see why the young are drawn to them, they are a massive stain on society in my opinion
Report UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 9:44 PM BST
What I fear is the government clamping down on gambling itself...some of us need it
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:45 PM BST
Yes UBLE

That's the fear, but its not sports betting that's a problem, I find it hard to believe kids today "tilt" when getting a correct score wrong

Sports Betting is more a pass time quite literally
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 9:46 PM BST
there very little mug money on the exchange now the reason being that any decent punter horse or dog cant get a bet on in the shops.
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 9:48 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 9:44PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:


What I fear is the government clamping down on gambling itself...some of us need it


Anyone remotely successful who isn't protected via their status or connection to a particular sport has to jump through hoops to get a bet on yet can have their life savings on any casino game,that is it right there.

Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:49 PM BST
Everyone in this "slot community" are playing a slot called "dead or alive 2", there's a choice of 3 different features if you manage to trigger the feature, and this slot has given out 100,000x wins CrazyCrazy

Someone lost £3000 trying to "grind a wild line" on it ffs, its absolutely bonkers

Its hard to convince these young adults they are a total waste of money though, you ask them if they bet on the horses and its met with a "nah its boring"

Sad
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 9:50 PM BST
the youngsters today are not the slightest bit interested betting on dog or horse racing.
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:51 PM BST
Sadly true, superjudge

They actually prefer these money guzzling slots Sad
Report UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 9:52 PM BST
You are right Sontaran it is a past time, an interesting one.

But there will always be some people who will gamble themselves skint, they cannot stop themselves

I have no problem with limiting the casino side at all,


But once  we start down this road there are some people who want gambling banned altogetherShocked
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 9:53 PM BST
Its why I said forget the FOBTS a while back

They can literally sit on their bog on the phone and spin at £50 a pop on these things Crazy

UBLE

Oh there's politicians out there that want gambling stopped absolutely, but there's a lot less people going broke betting on the GGs than there is spinning on the slots
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 9:54 PM BST
when you got a massive problem ss which a lot of people have.they want the action and they want it quick.
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 9:58 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 9:50PM, superjudge wrote:


the youngsters today are not the slightest bit interested betting on dog or horse racing.


There used to be a certain level of esteem and dream attached to someone who could beat the bookies and live from betting on horses especially,it was my ambition from 9 years old to be a pro punter reading betting tales from Barney Curley,Phil Bull,Alex Bird,Jack Ramsden,Paul Cooper and more who were all successful at times when you could get a bet on.
Nowadays haven't heard of any kid with the same ideals who isn't already bred into a sport like horse/greyhound racing and if there is anyone who's any good they'll quickly find themselves restricted to pennies before they have a chance to get going.

Report UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 10:00 PM BST
The trouble I have wih women superjudge, but they never seem to agreeWink
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 10:00 PM BST
On the wider issue of gambling addiction especially online the issue that's often glossed over or not mentioned is that of Bookmaker Affiliates who earn money from the losers who click through their adverts to bet with bookmakers,check out twitter the place is full of charlatans under the guise of tipsters/betting related sites.
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 10:02 PM BST
In fact for a while my brother had such a scheme going as a couple of kids he knew did this and were earning 4 figure sums each and every month for posting some bookmaker/casino offers online to vulnerable muggy gamblers.
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 10:05 PM BST
Bookies can make millions slowly ZZZZZzzzzz with horse racing or make millions in quick time through cra*k cocaine of gambling

Denzil

Same with casino streamers on youtube, they are sodding loaded Crazy one particular affiliate on youtube (use to post on here, calls himself bandit slots) has literally bought a 300k house through his affiliation

Some are buying 20,000 pound cars as well, they are living the dream over there CrazyCrazy
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 10:06 PM BST
like your style ubleLaughLaugh
Report UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 10:06 PM BST
You are not related to moneytree are you denzilWink
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 10:06 PM BST
They sit there playing slots all day (where is the money coming from I wonder Crazy) and are absolutely loaded

They are raking in 1000s through affiliation £££££££££sssss
Report pa lapsy • August 12, 2019 10:08 PM BST
But the "action" is too extreme (imo),well known jockey ruby walsh has lent his name to slot machines, for a single spin you can have £350 on that sir, i don't think 10 spins in a minute would be too excessive, 1 minute =£3500,say 10 minutes,35k, yes and there you go,in a half an hour a six figure sum "gambled"

Nothing whatsoever morally right with that,the goverment in theory ought to protect the vulnerable,it has with fobts,but aren't these much worse?
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 10:08 PM BST
Indeed SS when the horse bettors forum (HBF) set up they were riddled with affiliate types and a few weeks ago on the HR forum I called out Matt Bisogno former HBF top guy on such schemes which he didn't reply after previously responding to my post.
Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 10:08 PM BST
Even the low level affiliates are making a fair big I should imagine

I just couldn't spend the money knowing it was from some poor smuck blowing his/her wages or dole money etc

It takes a special kind of lack of empathy wa*ker to do it in my opinion
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 10:09 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 10:08PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


Even the low level affiliates are making a fair big I should imagine I just couldn't spend the money knowing it was from some poor smuck blowing his/her wages or dole money etc It takes a special kind of lack of empathy wa*ker to do it in my opinion


SS completely agree.

Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 10:09 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 10:06PM, UBLE/REGY wrote:


You are not related to moneytree are you denzil


Have heard of moneytree through others on here referencing him but was before my time.

Report SontaranStratagem • August 12, 2019 10:10 PM BST
The rodders on del boy quote springs to mind

"honestly grandad no... but I know a man who can"

Looks at one of these affiliates

Some just don't care about others Plain
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 10:12 PM BST
some of these celebs are without any shame
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 10:15 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 10:12PM, superjudge wrote:


some of these celebs are without any shame


Every single one on every betting advert have sold their soul and taken the pieces of silver absolutely diabolical morals of snakes.

Report Coachbuster • August 12, 2019 10:15 PM BST

Aug 12, 2019 -- 10:06PM, SontaranStratagem wrote:


They sit there playing slots all day (where is the money coming from I wonder ) and are absolutely loaded They are raking in 1000s through affiliation £££££££££sssss


dole fiddling , shoplifting ,stealing bikes ,burglary  ??

sometimes wages ...

Report UBLE/REGY • August 12, 2019 10:15 PM BST
You was lucky Denzil, believe me

Human Beings scam on everything if we can get away with it, it is not just gambling

When I was younger I used to see adverts in the Sporting life and Racing Post, tipsters claiming amazing results

They also used to say 'proofed to this Newspaper', I never knew how they got away with it,
Report superjudge • August 12, 2019 10:17 PM BST
could not have put it better denzil
Report DenzilPenberthy • August 12, 2019 10:17 PM BST
Aye REGY the RP were similar until recently despite nobody with any success being able to keep any accounts open.
Report dambuster • August 13, 2019 10:55 AM BST
Every punter MUST BE A LOSER to continue being able to bet with these firms,
1 winner+200,000 losers..= winner banned
Report UBLE/REGY • August 13, 2019 11:07 AM BST
Cry
Report Facts • August 13, 2019 1:20 PM BST

superjudge    12 Aug 19 21:50 
the youngsters today are not the slightest bit interested betting on dog or horse racing.



That's because to have any chance of making long term profits on horse racing , takes an approach akin to running a business, discipline and takes years of data collection to achieve key indicators that highlight winning patterns.
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