Barnier issuing threats

Bap,being brutal you have to sympathize with the EU,Mrs May off for more "robust" and "constructive" talks again, the UK don't know what they want even after 3 years,the whole shenagains not fair on them also as they cannot finalise preparations.
Lock them in like picking a Pope and don't let them come out til white smoke is blowing over the Thames.

If it's no deal Europe will collapse which of course will be a headline writers dream

Barnier Rubble
EU feckwit send us back to the stone age

Baney Rubble, would i imagine be most offended

lapsy; being brutal, i wouldn't sympathise with that lot even if the Rue d'Arlon 62 came crashing down on top of their coiffured nappers

Doubt it will collapse Crisp,the £39 billion is a big buffer,maybe a more likely possible outcome would be for the UK to come back to the table a while down the line after the realization no deal was a mistake due to inability to strike trade tariffs well?

Haha Bap,great to be able to differ, a boy on a mans errand last November probably the bottom line.

Apr 2, 2019 -- 4:29AM, lapsy pa wrote:

Doubt it will collapse Crisp,the £39 billion is a big buffer,maybe a more likely possible outcome would be for the UK to come back to the table a while down the line after the realization no deal was a mistake due to inability to strike trade tariffs well?

or maybe UK will realise we don't need brand new German cars or French cheese

indeed; if, & i say if there is ever another round of negotiations with the bureaucrats; then i would take a syndicate of Rumpoles, Trumps; & Capones to the table with me, And not Little Miss Muffet on her lonesome. The EU  should be prosecuted for child abuse

The EU are terrified of losing our money.  We are a massive net contributor.  Once we're gone, others will follow.  The EU will be reduced to France/Germany and a whole host of little countries awaiting their hand-outs.

you've just offended most of Ireland, lybertyne

I won't underestimate it(EU), Britains 2nd highest export(cars) is in disarray anyway due to lesser demand and relocation,a major blow already,you can do without cheese wine etc but that will be reciprocated anyway on the continent with livestock etc.

No doubt they don't want to lose your money but surely they will simply adjust their balance sheet?

Diddums.

^ That is why you are where you are now.

39 billion will be pissed away like sailors on shore leave then the European Central Bank will print some more.
EU are world champion can kickers.

Don't give a penny

And once we get the military in order he can make all the treats he likes, we'll be giving them some back in the form of rockets

Lately I've not been following closely to the numerous shenanigans and non-event voting in the House Of Commons due to Brexit saturation. Nevertheless (correct me if I'm wrong) I understand the negotiated/agreed break-off fee is £39bn or roughly 4 annual net EU contributions - last year was about £8bn net).

If so, why are the UK not allowed to enjoy the "fruits" of our past membership and net contributions for a further 4 years and not ceased immediately? Why are the UK banned/disallowed to negotiate our own deal with the rest of the world unless we 'Leave' with the deal stipulated by The EU (if I understand correctly)?

If my understanding is correct (from memory), and the UK 'Leave' with no-deal or EU extending our Brexit, I'd give The EU zilch ie no £39bn (maybe a much smaller token amount eg £1) if no access to present membership privileges eg free trade; no access to EU free trade for at least 2 years (time for negotiations with the rest of the world) = no break-off fee.

The latest estimate for the size of the UK’s ‘divorce bill’ with the EU is £39 billion (€42 billion).

This is based on calculations the UK and EU have agreed, although the final value may still change.

On 11th December 2017, the Prime Minister confirmed that the UK and the EU have agreed “the scope of commitments, and methods for valuations and adjustments to those values.”

The calculations are an estimate of the UK’s commitments to the EU, valued according to a set of agreed principles.  The bill is made up of:

The UK’s contribution to EU annual budgets up to 2020;
Payment of outstanding commitments; and
Financing liabilities up to the end of 2020.

If only up to 2020 what about the "returns" from contributions? The latest (2017) was about £4bn (£13bn - £9bn) from The EU thus why £39bn? The EU are behaving like a loan-shark, in my book.

If eventually an exit with a deal, so be it. But, do not give The EU £39bn for the privilege; £39bn must include the present privileges the UK are enjoying for being a member state.

I spent five seconds to find that high level information, I'm sure you could dig a bit deeper and get a split on the three elements and find out the length of commitments involved.

I do understand - I do 'google' for info. Nevertheless, to be charged £39bn or 4 annual net EU contributions with no present membership privileges eg free trade/tariff is atrocious and wholly punitive and unfair considering the UK has been a member and net contributor for all these years.