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Baphornet
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Report saddo February 18, 2019 11:37 PM GMT
It's good to see how huge organisations deal with this kind of thing. The trannies and freaks are not going down too well with real females generally.
Report Baphornet February 18, 2019 11:42 PM GMT
tbh saddo; i wouldn't fancy training for years & walloping the other runners until Caster came sailing past in her doc martins
Report saddo February 18, 2019 11:48 PM GMT
If it's allowed to continue many women will not take up sport, it will fade away.
Report Baphornet February 18, 2019 11:55 PM GMT
yup. We will end up with not one 'normal' athlete in athletics
Report lybertyne February 19, 2019 12:13 AM GMT
Wouldn't have had this problem under the old regime.
Report DenzilPenberthy February 19, 2019 12:19 AM GMT
Was my favourite subject a year ago but all ranted out now,the chances of making the correct and fair decision for all are quite slim unfortunately with the race card being played strongly at every opportunity.
Report saddo February 19, 2019 12:24 AM GMT
They have to choose between women and freaks, akin to turkeys voting for Christmas if they continue to allow it, no sport means no need for ruling bodies.
Report mouse muldoon February 19, 2019 12:26 AM GMT
Trouble is the freaks would be hard pressed to find a job in a circus nowadays.
Report boxingthefox February 19, 2019 1:01 AM GMT
Lets try and put this in betting 'parlance'. " I was a young gambler, I thought I knew more than all you 'old losers' well my dad told me so!. then this 'New System' came along, and I thought fck you losers, I'm on a winning steak if I join up.

So I joined, what could go wrong? the You tube clips offered paradise for participants, what could go wrong?.

Anyway to cut a long story short, my perverted view of the faith proved to be a bit too barbaric for normal people, so they bombed the carp out of us. So I thought, fck this, I don't give a sh*t about severed heads, I just want an easy life in the country I left and profess to hate, so I will  prey on their weaknesses again, because the are fckin idiots bent on their own destruction, cue the BBC, Sad
Report mouse muldoon February 19, 2019 1:02 AM GMT
have you got the right thread?
Report the bairn February 19, 2019 1:04 AM GMT
boxing. spot on. cheers.
Report boxingthefox February 19, 2019 1:04 AM GMT
ExcitedSilly No I fckin haven;t Cry
Report dave1357 February 19, 2019 8:53 AM GMT
Someone posted elsewhere that Caster Semenya is an anagram of "yes a secret man".  Sometimes I really do think we are living in scripted simulation. Grin
Report morpteh mackem February 19, 2019 9:01 AM GMT
what about that woman who was a man who won that cycle race last year ( in usa or canada ? ) , lengths people will go to win something. might have been called mckinnon, surely fellow competitors should boycott any tournament where she participates.
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 9:26 AM GMT

Feb 18, 2019 -- 11:37PM, saddo wrote:


It's good to see how huge organisations deal with this kind of thing. The trannies and freaks are not going down too well with real females generally.


And women should kick up a stink about it

Hope this puts to bed women competing in the mens game? although the BBC will continue to ram that rubbish down peoples throats no doubt

Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 9:37 AM GMT
Just watched an 800m race starring Caster, and it really shouldn't be allowed ffs, the other women in behind gritting teeth and struggling to even stay with "her", Caster relaxed as you like sailing round in 1:55 Cry

Ridiculous its allowed to happen
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 9:46 AM GMT
How would you price this one up?

Have a bad feeling the judges will come down on the androgen's side
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 9:48 AM GMT

Feb 19, 2019 -- 8:53AM, dave1357 wrote:


Someone posted elsewhere that Caster Semenya is an anagram of "yes a secret man".  Sometimes I really do think we are living in scripted simulation.


Not surprised

These people are nicely hidden in their hideouts, but one of these days its got to bloody stop surely?

Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 9:51 AM GMT
Its the poor women who train hard all year round, put in the dedication only to "sailed past" by this sort of rubbish

SEMENya, they put everything right in our faces and no one does a sodding thing

Its going to change hopefully, because if they wont do anything we will
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 9:53 AM GMT
*Its going to change hopefully, because if they wont do anything we will surely?
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 9:56 AM GMT
I doubt it'll come down to what is right.  I think it'll come down to what is legal and that is why I fear Caster will win.
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 10:00 AM GMT
I doubt there are any international laws concerning androgens, and as she doesn't have a pair of bollocks she is legally female and that is why she'll win your honour.
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 10:01 AM GMT
Well then sorry but its time we as men stuck up for the women in this debate then

What kick do these blokes get beating women in a sport? Can't beat the male counter parts so they enter womens sport to "win something"

Absolutely pathetic, the media will be all over this in favour of Caster Semenya, what about the frigging women getting a raw deal ? aren't we suppose to be in a "feminist" era, BBC

Nah, not when it comes to this story, its all about another agenda
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 10:02 AM GMT
common sense and the greater good consigned to the scrap heap
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 10:04 AM GMT
The three judges won't give two hoots about the media.
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 10:05 AM GMT
You only have to watch one of the races Semenya is in to know something isn't right

The women in the race are literally lunging forward to keep up ffs, almost falling over

Semenya has a nice relaxed rhythm going and is just coasting round, no need for a "kick finish", the job is done half way round as the other runners are on their bloody knees with 300 to go Sad
Report saddo February 19, 2019 10:22 AM GMT
I saw that woMAN cyclist morpeth, a brute.
Report Jack Hacksaw February 19, 2019 10:27 AM GMT
She's now 28.  I think this will soon blow over.

She will want to settle down and have kids.
Report saddo February 19, 2019 10:30 AM GMT
There'll  be plenty more, look at the money and fame it brings. An average  Male athlete can be a world beater with the nuts gone.
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 10:34 AM GMT
I don't believe the average male will accept it though, saddo

I can't compete with the better male counter parts in running, so I accept I ain't as good and move on

Men who do it are not men anyway imo, going round "destroying women" is totally pathetic tbh
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 10:36 AM GMT
I don't look at a female as competition, maybe its me that's not "normal" in this world?

What happens if this moves in to combat sports? a UFC fight for example ?

If I was there and saw it live I'd kick off, but will the other paying customers say something?
Report saddo February 19, 2019 11:02 AM GMT
I meant average in sporting ability sontaran. Trannies and freaks of nature who like sport can target the women's game. I look forward to all kinds of minorities going to war with each other, especially feminists and Muslims.
Report GoBallistic February 19, 2019 11:20 AM GMT
Jack Hacksaw 19 Feb 19 10:27 
She's now 28.  I think this will soon blow over.

She will want to settle down and have kids.

Apparently her wife/partner is pregnant
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:29 AM GMT
They don't even hide it do they, goballistic !?!

Its right in your face, they even have massive grins on their face when they are interviewed as well
Report Just Checking February 19, 2019 11:35 AM GMT
Canada, a country I used to respect and at one point considered emigrating to, has been completely overrun by SJW lunatics. Their Castro loving PM is just tip of the iceberg, the battle is apparently lost.
https://www.cbc.ca/sports/transgender-woman-track-cycling-1.4863381
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/varsity-sports-transgender-rules-1.4845864
"Weaving said the general concern is mostly with male to female transgender athletes because of the "myth" that testosterone enhances performance and might create an unfair advantage.  "
MYTH. Give me stength. The strength I get from testosterone.
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:44 AM GMT
They are basically telling us there's men in womens sports, and then defending it by saying testosterone enhancing performance is a "myth" Crazy

So why are "trans gender" athletes in womens sport totally dominating then? how come male athletes are using drugs to enhance testosterone levels ? which is giving them a unfair advantage when it comes to performance levels, as proved by the same sodding corporations that are now on board with this madness?

These people are thick as pig ****, all it takes to open your sodding eyes and dig a little

Get these bas****s out before they do irreversible damage
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:46 AM GMT
As for the Canadian PM my god

If the troops and police are ready to defend a total muppet like that then they need a wobble
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:46 AM GMT
"we say people kind"

LaughCrazyPlain

Just do one, get back in your parents basement ffs
Report Just Checking February 19, 2019 11:51 AM GMT
If being biologically male and having testosterone gives no advantage then lets have no different male/female sports and just have "the human 100" metres.

I mean they can't have it both ways.

There is an element of fairness here, I've no self interest here: I'm not a woman or an athlete but I know fairness and women who are being in effect forced to race against men are suffering a huge unfair disadvantage.

Maybe men who identify as 12 year olds should be able to enter youth championship?

Don't say no to that, you ageist fascists!
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:54 AM GMT
They try to have it both ways, and when they are called out on it they resort to "He/She is a bigot"
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:54 AM GMT
They try to have it both ways, and when they are called out on it they resort to "He/She is a bigot"
Report GoBallistic February 19, 2019 11:54 AM GMT
I don't agree with what the IAAF is trying to do here i.e. they are arguing it's ok for Semenya and the others with physical male traits / male testo levels to compete in female athletics as long as they take testo-reducing medication

While that should overcome the problem of them dominating their events (and did in Semenya's case) there is something not quite right with athletes being obliged to dope to compete.  Are they saying she could fail a dope test if she forgets to dope ?
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:55 AM GMT
They try to have it both ways, and when they are called out on it they resort to "He/She is a bigot"
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:55 AM GMT
They try to have it both ways, and when they are called out on it they resort to "He/She is a bigot" but I thought there's no "he/she" anymore? you can't have that both ways either CrazyLaugh

You simply cannot debate these people, they throw a tantrum when they are beaten and resort to insults, they can't be reasoned with.

They go wherever suits their sad little agendas
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:55 AM GMT
There we go at last ffs
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:57 AM GMT

Feb 19, 2019 -- 11:54AM, GoBallistic wrote:


I don't agree with what the IAAF is trying to do here i.e. they are arguing it's ok for Semenya and the others with physical male traits / male testo levels to compete in female athletics as long as they take testo-reducing medicationWhile that should overcome the problem of them dominating their events (and did in Semenya's case) there is something not quite right with athletes being obliged to dope to compete.  Are they saying she could fail a dope test if she forgets to dope ?


But according to the liberal minded "testosterone" is a myth when it comes to performance?

Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 11:58 AM GMT
So doping isn't allowed but is allowed at the same time ?

Its an head scratch with these people isn't it
Report Just Checking February 19, 2019 12:05 PM GMT
It's not just the immediate level of testoserone as an adult, during the development process of a male and especially through puberty it makes a difference to the build.
Look at the shoulder blades on a woman and look at the shoulder blades on a man. They are significantly bigger in a man because that's where the big muscles go on. No amount of reducing testosterone will reduce inherant differences.

Archeoligsts can dig up bones that are 3000 years old and in seconds identify via the obvious differences if they are male or not, stunted, good diet, bad diet, and there is not a spec of flesh on them.
Report Just Checking February 19, 2019 12:05 PM GMT
*obvious spelling mistakes I can't be arsed fixing
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 12:08 PM GMT
That Canadian quote is so bizarre it could be Fake News
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 12:13 PM GMT
I have sympathy with Semenya's situation, but when 10,000 people are compromised significantly, instead of one person, it's the one person that should be compromised.
Report darren_discombobulates_sports February 19, 2019 12:13 PM GMT
the case for Semenya is she hasn't dominated women's athletics completely, she failed to qualify for the World Champs in 2013, didn't qualify for the 800m final in 2015, 3rd in 2017 1500m and has no World records. Her best 400m time is around 2 seconds behind the best time in 203rd place, her best 800m time is around 1 second behind the record in 4th place and her best ever 1500m time is almost 10 seconds off of the top in 356th place. Then you think how far off her best times are compared to the men and they are of course much further.

Just putting it out thereExcited
Report boxingthefox February 19, 2019 12:18 PM GMT

Feb 19, 2019 -- 12:13PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


I have sympathy with Semenya's situation, but when 10,000 people are compromised significantly, instead of one person, it's the one person that should be compromised.


Reminds me of the mother watching her son in the army parade, exclaiming "look they're all out of step except my Johnny"

Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 12:21 PM GMT

Feb 19, 2019 -- 12:13PM, darren_discombobulates_sports wrote:


the case for Semenya is she hasn't dominated women's athletics completely, she failed to qualify for the World Champs in 2013, didn't qualify for the 800m final in 2015, 3rd in 2017 1500m and has no World records. Her best 400m time is around 2 seconds behind the best time in 203rd place, her best 800m time is around 1 second behind the record in 4th place and her best ever 1500m time is almost 10 seconds off of the top in 356th place. Then you think how far off her best times are compared to the men and they are of course much further. Just putting it out there


Which makes it more hilarious

"she" can't even get the records in the womens athletics

I wonder if that messes with "her" pride and ego?

Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 12:21 PM GMT
I'm sure 9 out of 10 people would agree that Semenya shouldn't be able to compete as things stand, but I still think it's likely she's going to win this case.  Well done to the IAAF for bringing this difficult case to court though.
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 12:23 PM GMT

Feb 19, 2019 -- 12:21PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


I'm sure 9 out of 10 people would agree that Semenya shouldn't be able to compete as things stand, but I still think it's likely she's going to win this case.

Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 12:24 PM GMT
When "she" wins its going to open the door Cry

The end
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 12:24 PM GMT
d-d-s her 2013-2015 poor form coincided with some form of sanction, which because of the Dutee Chand case the IAAF had to back track on.  So she was back to winning ways again after that.
Report DenzilPenberthy February 19, 2019 12:27 PM GMT
IMO she hasn't ever tried to get the record as it would damage her career/earnings potential and everyone who has got better times than her and everyone on those lists is 100% on PEDs or a blood doping programme anyway so it's irrelevant only the physiological facts and her differences compared to the rest of the FEMALE athletes are blatant she's got a deeper voice than me ffs.

Here's pics of the number 1 womens? 800m record holder Jarmila Kratochvílová she's as manly as Semenya

https://www.google.com/search?q=Jarmila+Kratochv%C3%ADlov%C3%A1&tbm=isch&source=univ&client=firefox-b-d&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjrtdas5cfgAhWtWhUIHVsVApAQiR56BAgEEBE&biw=1136&bih=694
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 19, 2019 12:31 PM GMT
I know she has a relaxed running style that makes it looks that she's on the bridle, but she had that style even when she was getting beat.  Some athletes are like that.  They look like they've got plenty left in the tank when they are actually flat out.  Mehdi Baala was one.
Report DenzilPenberthy February 19, 2019 12:35 PM GMT
She's like that horse Harchiballs
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 12:39 PM GMT
There was a horse called "burnt cream" a few years back, I think Martin Bosley trained it

Always looked unbeatable at the 2 peg, would stick money on it only to realise it was a bridle donkey Sad
Report DenzilPenberthy February 19, 2019 12:40 PM GMT
Aye remember it well
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 12:41 PM GMT
There's loads of them denzil

I've learned my lesson with them though thankfully Laugh
Report GoBallistic February 19, 2019 12:46 PM GMT
What the IAAF *should* be doing instead of trying to reach a silly compromise is looking for ways to identify women who have clearly identifiable male physical traits and saying they cannot be allowed to compete in women's athletics.  People need to made to see that there is a clear and obvious difference between people wanting to identify as women (fine) and said people being able to compete in women's sport (which is clearly unfair).  Otherwise the floodgates will open and women's sport will be beyond saving

I wouldn't see the IAAF winning this case as a victory at all
Report SontaranStratagem February 19, 2019 1:00 PM GMT
Its over if they vote in favour of Caster

Womens sport will be over for the majority of women

And it would be irony wouldn't it, women are continually pushed to compete with men yet its their sport that gets overrun by men and ultimately getting pushed out of their own sports Crazy

We know feminism is pushed to turn men against women and vice versa, doesn't work with me though Wink
Report darren_discombobulates_sports February 19, 2019 3:12 PM GMT
Semenya specialises in the 800m, if she were a competitor in men's athletics, she'd be mediocre, her best time wouldn't have made the top 40,000 times achieved. I think she was even almost done out of a gold medal in 2012, Russian girl who finished 1st had her results annuled after a drugs sample was retested so Semenya was upgraded. She looks very masculine but she's competitive in women's athletics, Serena Williams had the same effect in tennis (not doubting her sex) - she and Venus come to that, were so physical they literally changed the game and forced rivals to change theirs and become stronger, hitting the ball harder, maybe fellow female runners have to train even harder and work more on strength and conditioning?
Report DenzilPenberthy February 19, 2019 4:21 PM GMT
maybe fellow female runners have to train even harder and work more on strength and conditioning?

All female athletes do tons already still wouldn't make a notable difference difference with the female hormonal profile.
Report Whisperingdeath February 19, 2019 4:49 PM GMT
Are we going to make prop forwards take slimming pills?
Report saddo February 19, 2019 5:04 PM GMT
Everyday life is beginning to resemble the travails of Alice.
Report A_T February 21, 2019 3:12 PM GMT
CLYDEBANK29    Joined: 10 Jan 02
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I doubt there are any international laws concerning androgens, and as she doesn't have a pair of bollocks she is legally female and that is why she'll win your honour.


But she does have a pair of balls that's what makes her so butch. They're still inside her and haven't dropped.
Report Baphornet February 21, 2019 5:39 PM GMT
i'm beginning to blushBlush
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 21, 2019 5:49 PM GMT
Speculation suggests she does indeed have a pair and a vagina.  Shocked  There have been cases in the past (a skier and a high jumper where they were dq'd for having internal male organs).  I'd assumed this was ruled out with Caster when she'd had all those tests done..  Even more ridiculous then that he/she competes on a level playing field.
Report Baphornet February 21, 2019 5:52 PM GMT
any pics?
Report CLYDEBANK29 February 21, 2019 6:30 PM GMT
I don't think we want to go there
Report Baphornet February 21, 2019 6:37 PM GMT
Laugh
Report boxingthefox February 21, 2019 6:41 PM GMT
If she has internal male organs, the she should be restricted to running indoors, obviously. Devil
Report Baphornet February 21, 2019 6:42 PM GMT
a fortune awaits in the pawn world
Report maleuk01. February 21, 2019 10:03 PM GMT
unfortunately society is getting itself into a right mess, men can become women, women can become men.

Reality is if you are born a man, your a man, if you are born a woman you are  a woman.

That is nature, no operation can change it. Just because you close your curtains during the day it doesnt mean you have made it night time because it has gone dark.

Sometimes nature can play cruel tricks and people born with both genetalia, i guess in adult life that person has the right to choose which sex they identify with. Science can now show those people who could be considered dual sex, its not the individuals fault, but they should be barred from female sport due to the unfair advantage.

All the snowflakes feel their right to be offended and people can be whoever or whatever they desire is stronger than nature. Well it isnt.
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