Time to Abolish Christmas ?

Feb 1, 2019 -- 7:30AM, mouse muldoon wrote:

Has it been abolished down under?

The weather is better !

We'll have a whip round if they'll take ya.

Blocked mate !

Ever thought of getting a proper job?

a mob of under 8s with pitch forks heading for spotty's gaff    - spotty has made a gaff as well ho ho

I remember when I told my daughter at the age of 8 that Father Christmas was a mere marketing exercise .....she said :







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........."What's marketing" ?

And her mother said ...... "That's child cruelty"

what a miserable life some people lead  yuk!!!

I reserve the right to be as miserable as I wish , but have no right whatsoever to impose my misery on others

sorry that was to spotty not you reynard

I am aware of that . Just thought I'd pen a response that Voltaire would have been proud of

I think old volt got banned - he's no longer on here.

I believe de Tocqueville might have something to say about that too - he was full of that sort of stuff/quotes

he is also not on here

Personally, I love Christmas, so No.

HGS • February 1, 2019 3:11 PM GMT
Personally, I love Christmas, so No.

I get the impression that you won't get a say in the matter . There will be no referendum (for what that's worth) . The decision would be made without consultation

it is a good while before that happens - I will be well and gone as I guess you may be also reynard - but after that who knows

What an absurd question? The UK is Christianity orientated. No chance of Christmas being abolished. Also, just the joy of seeing the faces of the little darlings on this day; it's the best thing in the world.

The UK is Christianity orientated.
Possibly irrelevant , bearing in mind that Christmas actually has its roots in Pagan mythology , according to some historians .

maybe you do not understand the demographic and what this means in the future

The UK is Christianity orientated.

I believe Christmas was originally a pagan festival. eg. what has fetching a tree indoors and decorating it got to do with celebrating the birth of our Lord, Jesus Christ?

Let's not ban it, eh? I'm really not an advocate of banning things for no good reason. I like people to have personal choice, and for them to give me back the same courtesy.

didn't see your reply reynard

but someone might want to get rid of it and other things in the future

Christmas these days has very little to do with Christianity either, for most people.

We should stop all this rubbish about triple time working on the tube and travel shutdowns,spread the holidays around a bit and work normally.

I used to love it - now find it much less exciting - bitter old man syndrome methinks - but had some happy days

Nah moisy,you are my hero on here,relentless and steadfast,always campaigning for what is right. You can't be bitter after all you have accomplished dear friend !

Always wrong...more like !

....his spelling is terrible !

I still really enjoy Christmas and the week run up before hand

But there is never enough time to get everything done.

I think Christmas is the 3rd biggest certainty after death and taxes - it always falls on 25th Dec (I do understand the orthodox have their slightly later).

I have bean put in my plaice  by spotty.    I no I am a naughty buoy and will sea if I can do bettor.

thank you spotty

I'm going to get a social media campaign going ....next year Christmas will be cancelled !

Miserable git! You could be spoiling the fun of many little angels one day in a year.

You could make up for that by using the money more wisely.

silly attention seeking topic from silly attention seeking personage. Tall poppy syndrome sufferer

be careful what you say to spotty - he will accuse you of incitement (re the Cox affair)

It’s difficult to find the words to describe how wonderful Christmas is
if you don’t have relations

Even more importantly, if Jesus hadn't been born then our soles would all be bugered.

Shame he had to die to achieve that as well, but that's just how it was.

It was the most cunning plan what God could think of at the time.

My soles are buggered anyway, I'm thinking of putting some segs in but they don't go well with Nike Air Max.

Jesus sandals hear, but obviously with thick socks at this time of year.

When it’s Christmas and the snow swirls and I hear the beautiful Christmas carols I prefer not to think about it but to believe it
God goes with thoughtless people

i hope they are white, RR? In true JRM style

lfc, yes he does prefer them to the thinkers.

Bappers, not JRM class, but 3 packs of poundland with variously coloured rings at the top.

I like a snowy landscape , and I like Christmas
that’s all there is to it

yuk! Please do not wear them at the next QT meeting, there's a good chap. Standards you know

They don't tend to film the footwear on QT, or any of the panel below the waist.

Standing ovation for Dimbleby's swansong excepted.

Question time would be a lot more interesting if every episode, whenever anyone had to speak, things were performed below the desk like a famous "police academy" finale.

Fiona: bloke in 2nd row with the cheapo poundland socks & jesus sandals.

No, they always refer to the shirt.

Lady near the back, with a face like a bus.

They never say that either.

or spiv tie

or spiv tie

Or the swarthy fellow in the kippah, that would be inquisition time.

I hate ties btw. I'd rather abolish ties than christmas. What a pointless "garment" that is.

The only thing I ever use a tie for these days is as a leash when my girlfriend rides me around the bedroom.

I was watching the Danny Dyer thng the other day and thinking about their ridiculous fashions back in the day, the puff pantaloons and cod straps and so on. Surely ties will go the same way? 100 years ago EVERYONE wore a hat. Even babies. They came out wearing them.

The JRS dynasty will still be sporting spiv ties 300 years from now.

*JRM

you don't see many chav swags either tbph. There is a severe lack of crocodiles and polo horse embroidery ironed to jumpers & shirts

I keep calling him JRS for some reason.

Who is JRS? "Jesuit Rescue Service"?

Plenty of daddios, or teds if it's Lincoln or Norfolk

Jacob Rees Smog i presume?

or J R Smug

JRM is a very intelligent well educated man and well mannered who is also well off and this winds up people who aren't.
Corbyn is also from a well off family but pretends he isn't. And is thick as a pair of short things you can get from Jewsons.
He went to a prep school, a grammar school, and even with all these benefits only got two Es at A level in **** subjects then dropped out of a crap course at a poly before becoming a trade union commissar...

It's funny when lefties say that such schools give kids such an advantage. WTF would Jeremy The Thick Commie have got if he'd went to a crap state schools.

Would appear that he's loth to throw his own panama in the ring anyway, he's Boris's second now.

Superflous "a" there. I really should stop editing and not re-reading my sentence...

I got D & E A levels, makes me smarter than Jezzer, end of.

Actually one of them woz general studies so that might not count.

And I'm fully aware that I'm not as well bred as JRM.

"The Thick Commie have achieved". Even at the thought of the great man, ones inner mog is pulsating through oneself and realising how much better one could express myself, should one take a second to consider ones vocabulary :)

All Hail The Mog.

I'm not a protestant either so I can't claim superiority on those grounds.

I got a D in English

"The thick commie has achieved".

Actually I think that is a VERY good point I made above. If the logical postulate IS that things like prep schools and grammar schools give kids an unfair academic advantage, and Corbyn (brought up in what is virtually a manor house surely with huge parental support), and had all these advantages and was still incredibly mediocre, what does it say about him?

I find it HILARIOUS when people try to suggest Corbyn is a "man of the people". This is the house he was brought up in:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11818744/Jeremy-Corbyn-the-boy-to-the-manor-born.html
A SEVEN BEDROOM MANOR HOUSE. Look at that house. That is not a 2 up 2 down in a mining village.

How many people know that and Corbyn's actual background? If Mogg was brought up in that mansion I'm sure the left
would talk about it .. but the BBC etc never talk about it .. yet his supporters say the BBC have it in for him..

he does his own garden though

I was working class but won the scholarship to private school. Dropped out in the 4th year though.

Not sure that's anything to be proud of mouse. AFTER is understandable perhaps. DURING?

I've slipped out during and it's never been met with a favourable response.

Education is a results driven business. I needed to chill out a bit. I suppose what I learned is to take less notice of so-called "class" and get on more with doing my own sort of thing.

And I've never worn the spiv tie, just the house tie and now I have a tie just for weddings and funerals.

As to being right or left, lean towards the left a bit, you'll pull more birds.

b]Education is a results driven business.[/b] In some aspects, correct, from the point of view of proving a point as to what a young person knows and can achieve. Some people (like myself, take that for what it is) like to learn for the sake of it so I learn things for the sake of it. BUT there is a reason people get qualifications and certificates, good reasons, and it will always be the case outside of failed state communist ****s. WTF else is an employer or uni supposed to look at. A uni won't read palms to decide if an applicant is good enough at Biology to study medicine.
I needed to chill out a bit. Fair enough!
I suppose what I learned is to take less notice of so-called "class". No idea what you mean here. Either way I can think of it doesn't seem to make any sense. For working class kids a good education has always been the way to success. See 1. above!

For working class kids a good education has always been the way to success

Not if too much pressure applied by parents who aspire too much to have offspring that exceed their own level by a significant amount. I see this also now in my partner's youngest son who was pushed too far (not by her, by her ex).

Best to let the kids go their own way innit, dunno if JRM looks at it like that with his brood.

tbf her older lad who's a bit more savvy won't have got the best out of it either, he's got his ba but saddled with the usual level of debt and no proper job at the end of it as yet.

What a gloomy thread this has descended into, and to think the OP was advocating the abolition of xmas!

Only 326 days to go

"Not if too much pressure applied by parents who aspire too much to have offspring that exceed their own level by a significant amount."
I agree with this, not perhaps exceed but too much pressure can be counter productive, certaintly.
"Best to let the kids go their own way innit"
No, they are kids because they are kids. The "kids know best and will find their own path when the earth mother speaks to them" is imho rubbish, from my own observations of that approach.

What YOU want to do mr mouse is read 212 rules for life" :) It's most certainly not a bible of absolute truth and frankly I disagree with a fair % of it, but it might make you have a think about this subject area as he talks about it a lot. The "kids always know best" is something I've seen trendy parents and it was pretty much 100% a disaster.

212 rules? Methinks the classic 10 commandments may be more manageable.

*12 rules for life
212 rules for life is what happens when you get married. Silly rules.
Rule 13. Don't leave toilet seat down.
Rule 14. Don't leave cap off toothpaste tube.
Rule 15. Don't roll in from pub and take dump in kitchen sink and photoshop pictures of my gran onto p0rn then post on facebook for laffs.

Insane woman rules.

Googled 212 rules, can't find owt, do you have a link?

re rule 14, I've found that all toothpastes come with an integrated cap nowadays.

My toothpaste tubes don't? They have big fat caps, something to hold onto, "Kim Kardashian Arse Caps" as they call them in the toothpaste cap industry.

rule 16 have a cuba libre nightcap at 2am if you so wish

Has no one suggested that we have to abolish Christmas as its in the Brexit requirements.

I'd prefer to abolish the leopard.

I'd prefer to abolish Trilby !

I thought they'd abolished slavery but I STILL get drool on my shirt when I'm hungry

Irish traveller types still doing the old slavery bit.....group gets caught every month....and the sex traficers of various nationalities.

they never try to pass dud 20s in town and when caught out they never threaten to return and smash the place up

or use youngsters to go in with 20s  then the adults go in and threaten staff - I am glad to say they never do things like that