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SontaranStratagem
29 Jan 19 16:35
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The bull**** this lot come out with

You can give blood on a deserted on a island ffs

But hospitals with millions in high tech cant because of leaving a piece of paper?

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Report Reynard • January 29, 2019 4:43 PM GMT
Possibly because there's none left , the EU have bled us dry over the last 40-odd years Plain
Report moisok • January 29, 2019 4:46 PM GMT
but if we run out of tea THEN  blood donations will stop  or do they do that anymore

probably had some objections from one of the communities
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 4:54 PM GMT
Can't find a few tubes because we're leaving pact written down on a piece of paper Laugh

Only in 2019 is it possible to sell the people that one
Report trilby22 • January 29, 2019 5:32 PM GMT
What about biscuits?  Will we run out of them to go with the donors tea?  Sure there'll be some broken ones knocking about somewhere?  Shirley?
Report Hanx • January 29, 2019 5:36 PM GMT
'England lose Ashes.....because of Brexit!'

'David Attenborough dies......because of Brexit!'

'Cuddly little dog on You Tube gets scabies.......because of brexit!

'Sun goes nova in Alpha Centauri.....because of Brexit!'

'A synaptic quirk means Jimmy Savile returns to sentiency.....because of Brexit!'
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 5:46 PM GMT
'UK carry on going to work.... because of brexit'

Funnily enough the company my brother works for are altering his contract, whereby the company can force their staff to work 52 hour weeks but only pay them for 38 hours CrazyLaugh

And people can't fathom why I canna be bothered with this country anymore Crazy
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 5:47 PM GMT
And that above regarding the 52 hours only being paid for 38 hours isn't a pi** take either, its the gods honest truth CrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazyCrazy
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 5:49 PM GMT
So if they sign this contract the company can demand they come in for extra hours pay free, and if they refuse they will be sacked CrazyCrySad

Like I said to my brother, when are the people of this nation going to grow a bas**** spine and stick up for themselves?
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 5:50 PM GMT
Oh and if they don't sign it





Bye bye!!!

I just can't wrap my head around the people of this country, spineless and pathetic doesn't do them justice ffs
Report moisok • January 29, 2019 5:59 PM GMT
no union?
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 6:03 PM GMT
I dunno moisok

My brother is signing it though CrazyCrazyCrazy

I don't think we have unions left though, the country is fu****g bonkers Cry
Report Injera • January 29, 2019 6:07 PM GMT
As long we don't run of coffee...Laugh

https://youtu.be/Bbv5B71KmkA
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 6:14 PM GMT
All that matters to people in this country injera is what's on TV, what time the clubs open and what Beth put on Facebook

I can take people being asleep to it, if they are ignorant to it then fine, but they can be woken. but I can't take people being woke to it and just not doing a damn thing about it out of sheer spinelessness and cowardice, or out of sheer bloody laziness.

They'll moan but they don't wanna stick two fingers up to the government and down tools?

"we need money"
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 6:15 PM GMT
"we need money"
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 6:15 PM GMT
"we need money"

biggest most pathetic cop out right there. just sod off and go and watch Emmerdale ffs.
Report Just Checking • January 29, 2019 6:26 PM GMT
It's when tissues are rationed due to Brexit that the teenage male demographic will take their Brexit anger onto the streets.
Report Hanx • January 29, 2019 6:57 PM GMT
Remainers are to start bottling air - in case the EU starve them of oxygen (the element, not the metaphor of publicity)!
Report nellie1970 • January 29, 2019 8:03 PM GMT
does your brother not get the extra hours back in lieu instead of pay?
Report moisok • January 29, 2019 8:04 PM GMT
children not able to sleep after hearing stories from 'uncle' Barnier!!!
Report moisok • January 29, 2019 8:07 PM GMT
anyone noticed how many birdies have flown away - very few in the trees around here!!!   They sure are right about this nasty brexit -  I blame Boris.
Report pa lapsy • January 29, 2019 8:09 PM GMT
I know someone in your brothers situation Sontaran, they are given near impossible "deadlines and timescales" concerning their work,nigh on impossible and what happens is the extra hours are not paid but classified as "toil", they can take days off on the back of that but the person i know could probably have months off which wouldn't be allowed.
Report lybertyne • January 29, 2019 8:46 PM GMT
There are people who have the attitude that football only began with the Premier League.  It would appear of late that there are plenty out there who believe the UK only began with the EU.  Get some history books distributed; there'll be amazement when the yoof discover what this country used to achieve on a regular basis.
Report moisok • January 29, 2019 8:54 PM GMT
VAT
Report Just Checking • January 29, 2019 8:55 PM GMT
That was BAD britain. Anything Britain did before joining the EU was imperialist and wrong, everything since joining the EU is fantastic, we're now going to become racist imperialists again. Just ask that ginger Green "politician" and the other pre pubescent products of SJW indoctrination in Momentum. (Outside of the ones who DO want to leave the EU so they aren't constrained in creating an oppresive socialist state).
Report moisok • January 29, 2019 9:03 PM GMT
Churchill was definitely nasty (sometimes) did you see what he did to hitler.  ho ho

I think everyone had given up until they had a go at stalin  we were on our own for a time

and it was churchill who stuck at it.  All the rest (including people in the uk) were desperately learning how to speak german.
Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 9:18 PM GMT

Jan 29, 2019 -- 2:03PM, nellie1970 wrote:


does your brother not get the extra hours back in lieu instead of pay?


No idea how its going to work, but a few of his work mates have left already lol

But once other companies start cottoning on about this sort of filth they'll all start doing it, esp when most people just accept it by leaving to find alternative employment or just sign on the dotted line Sad, the last 3 generations have really screwed it for the future generations by being so pathetically passive.

Report SontaranStratagem • January 29, 2019 9:22 PM GMT

Jan 29, 2019 -- 2:55PM, Just Checking wrote:


That was BAD britain. Anything Britain did before joining the EU was imperialist and wrong, everything since joining the EU is fantastic, we're now going to become racist imperialists again. Just ask that ginger Green "politician" and the other pre pubescent products of SJW indoctrination in Momentum. (Outside of the ones who DO want to leave the EU so they aren't constrained in creating an oppresive socialist state).


We're better off together is the media line

The same media that race and gender bait CryCryCry

Report n88uk • January 30, 2019 12:44 AM GMT
It's not 1946 anymore, the world is a vastly different place. Britain is no longer at the top table, especially as a stand alone entity.
Report moisok • January 30, 2019 12:43 PM GMT
ah look  here's another UK hater - you carry on with the negative propaganda from your masters in brussels

come back when you have something positive to say
Report Just Checking • January 30, 2019 1:02 PM GMT
Here was me thinking the UK was the 5th biggest economy in the world. Maybe there's another top table for Guardian readers.
Report n88uk • January 30, 2019 1:12 PM GMT
Yes and the 5th biggest economy doesn't cut it for the major players, especially one that isn't an emerging market thus no large growth is expected.

The major players basically are the US, China, EU economically. The UK isn't remotely in the same bracket.

The empire is gone, we don't have control over a quarter of the globe anymore. Hence why the only post-Brexit plan is basically to become a vassal state of the USA.
Report n88uk • January 30, 2019 1:12 PM GMT
On top of that we aren't resource rich like say Saudi Arabia where countries need to business with us out of necessity.
Report Just Checking • January 30, 2019 1:13 PM GMT
LOL you believe that. I should save it for when the Chinese debt bubble crashes sucking asia with it, which is coming.
Report n88uk • January 30, 2019 1:19 PM GMT
Remember I am dealing with the real world, not the cuckoo made up fantasy land that Brexiteers believe exists, but we're still awaiting to emerge. After all the deal with the EU was the worlds easiest deal and we'd get what we want, and the countries would be queuing up to do business with us. All going just to plan isn't it.
Report Hanx • January 30, 2019 1:28 PM GMT
Remember I am dealing with the real world, not the cuckoo made up fantasy land that Brexiteers believe exists, but we're still awaiting to emerge. After all the deal with the EU was the worlds easiest deal and we'd get what we want, and the countries would be queuing up to do business with us. All going just to plan isn't it.

No it isn't and it won't all the time your pals Blair, Mandelson, Major, et all garner the frequent flyer points to Brussells and keep briefing against their own country.

I mean it's bad enough we've got the most iredeemably useless PM in history - someone i'm pretty sure Audley Harrison could take on in a fist-fight - negotiating (used that word for handy reference purposes) for the UK, without these herberts getting involved
Report n88uk • January 30, 2019 1:32 PM GMT
Always someone elses fault isn't. Not the fault of the people who had no actual plan to carry out Brexit and scuttled before the first hurdle. Anyone can throw darts from outside when they know they aren't true, as they realise simple slogans con the masses, but they know they would fail in power hence why they didn't want it.
Report Just Checking • January 30, 2019 1:33 PM GMT
We can't do business deals with the rest of the world while tied to the EU either now or under terms of the remporary agreement. Try joining the real world.
Report Hanx • January 30, 2019 1:40 PM GMT
Well on that we can agree

I hold Johnson, Gove, Fox, Davies etc with as much contempt as I hold May and the civil service apparatchicks running this fiasco.

They had a rock-solid mandate from the nation and just needed to articulate a bold vision of post-Brexit Britain based on soveriegnty rather than (just) 'The Deal' or immigration, then got on with leaving under WTO rules, and challenge the EU to do better.

What did they do? Bottle it and become sideline quarterbacks.

Unfortunately, for all of us, yes it is always someone elses fault, but that's something of a meaningless phrase isn't it, since none of us have power and increasingly, any belief in democracy and politicians.

Bit like Remainers refusing to own the fact they're conservative (small'c') and scared.
Report n88uk • January 30, 2019 1:47 PM GMT
Yes but blaming "remainers" is just a cop out. What have the remainers really done. Stop May's deal that the majority of leavers don't support, so they've done you a favour if anything. If it wasn't for them May would have been able to do what she likes and we'd have been stuck with her bodge job.

The leavers don't even unite under the same banner, a big problem in itself.
Report Mr Eboue • January 30, 2019 1:55 PM GMT
Blame everyone else and if all else fails, accuse people with concerns about a no deal Brexit as lacking in patriotism.

If it wasn't so tragic it would be quite funny.
Report Hanx • January 30, 2019 2:19 PM GMT
Yes but blaming "remainers" is just a cop out. What have the remainers really done. Stop May's deal that the majority of leavers don't support, so they've done you a favour if anything. If it wasn't for them May would have been able to do what she likes and we'd have been stuck with her bodge job.

The leavers don't even unite under the same banner, a big problem in itself.


'Uniting under a banner' seems to be an issue for all parties - just look at the atomised responses we've found ourselves at right now.

Like I said, I agree with you regarding the sideline quarterbacking of the Leavers. Unfortunately, that leaves people like me with nowhere to go, with nothing tangible, to get behind.

For the record,  I can talk about the kind of country we want, post-Brexit, with anyone.

Brexit (in whatever form it takes) is in itself, an irrelevancy. What our politicians do with it, in the long term, now theres the issue! There's something worth discussing! There's something we can all unite around one hopes. Common values such as opportunity for all, fairness, democracy, my vote counting as much as your vote, reward for effort, playing by the rules and plenty more we can doubtless all think of.

No side in this Brexit (non) debate have a monopoly on how to achieve these ideals - but I hope they are ideals the majority can coalesce around and work towards within the prism of whatever Brexit gets foisted on us, and leave behind the hotheads who just want their 'side' to 'win'.

Basically, there's plenty of work to do on our MP's post-Brexit - in fact there's a whole world to be won if we can all get over ourselves.

Now Mr Eboue, why is patriotism such an issue for you? I'm sure you realise that the endgame of the EU is a supra-national state (no hyperbole, that is their raison d'etra and the direection of travel ever since its inception). It has it's own executive, legislature, fiscal and economic policy......it's more than just hot air now that an armed forces is coming, never mind irrelevancies such as a national anthem and a flag.

This is what you've signed up for and if that floats your boat then that's cool but don't try and claim any great love for Mother Britain and patriotic endeavour behind your project because for me, you and everyone like you want to subsume the UK into the United States of Europe and it's that, not short term issues on 'The Deal' and whether the lettuces can get through, that should be what we are discussing.
Report moisok • January 30, 2019 4:41 PM GMT
n88 on here again talking ukplc down yet again

they are frighteningly subservient to the corrupt monolith - they just suck up the propaganda from brussels

makes you wonder which country they belong to doesn't it?   Certainly not to the uk, or they would be looking at positives.

We know several of the negatives live in other countries and others on here who want to leave or are planning to leave after creating as much noise as possible against brexit
Report n88uk • January 31, 2019 1:36 AM GMT
^Come back with substance, not just talking sh*t.

If you think the UK will be better off standing alone you're in cuckoo land. The EU has a far stronger hand than the UK will have negotiating anything as it's a bigger market, isolationism and nationalism is how you get left behind.

The leave grand plan is even a direct contradiction to what they spout anyway, as their grand plan basically is we will in effect just become a vassal state of the US instead.
Report n88uk • January 31, 2019 1:40 AM GMT
And @hanx I agree there's a failure on all sides to unite under a banner, but then I blame the Conservative government for this, they have played party politics to ruin the country. They made an issue out of something that wasn't an issue and can't solve it, all in the eye of the party, and even now they're still trying to look after the party rather than the country. All made worse by the absolute inept opposition.

The decisions made in the last few years are going to affect the country for decades now.
Report Hanx • January 31, 2019 9:16 AM GMT
n88uk it clearly was / is an issue though!

You don't burn this much lean tissue and have this much angst over the cones hotline!

You're right, you have to bring the country with you because without that you have no legitimacy. It's called leadership and there's been precious little of that since the referendum from anyone.

We'll have to agree to differ re the fundamentals of Leave / Remain.

For me, we've done 'big' (I laugh when I seen Leavers characterised as hankering after 'old Empire'. The only Empire being built is the one with Brussells at its centre). I prefer nimble, small, local, streamlined, quality and technology driven (as far as the economy goes), driven by the best talent the world has to offer (as far as immigration goes) and able to respond to world events via our own democracy, close to its electorate (as far as sovereignty goes).

Like I've said, we can argue about the past two years and, to our national detriment, that's where the debate is stuck.

I just want someone....anyone...to articulate a post-Brexit vision of Britain that all bar the purist blowhards (from both sides) can get behind.
Report lfc1971 • January 31, 2019 9:34 AM GMT
Mays deal is a good deal and anything you might want will be worse
that’s all you need to know
Report lfc1971 • January 31, 2019 9:35 AM GMT
* to n88
Report lfc1971 • January 31, 2019 9:37 AM GMT
Hanx that all sounds like too much trouble , don’t change  anything or do anything differently in Britain to how it has been for at least the last 100 years , oh and stop immigration , thanks
Report n88uk • January 31, 2019 3:37 PM GMT
How many leavers actually think Mays deal is a good deal? Because hardly any in parliament do, and that's my perception generally too. And it isn't a good deal either, it's an awful deal.
Report moisok • January 31, 2019 3:45 PM GMT
and we are going to build a new empire - we did ok last time  - n88 will be sitting in a freezing cold garret in brussels with the rest of the losers

he will find spewing out the supra nation's propaganda will not help
Report n88uk • January 31, 2019 3:50 PM GMT
Build a new empire Laugh

Where are we going to invade? North Sentinel Island?
Report Hanx • January 31, 2019 3:56 PM GMT
What's with the 'we'?

Didn't think you wanted to be a part of this brave new world [:grin:
Report n88uk • January 31, 2019 3:58 PM GMT
We referring to the UK, because you know I am British thus it's common to refer to your country as "we".
Report Hanx • January 31, 2019 4:06 PM GMT
You still identifying as British then?

It's amusing and somewhat chastening to hear Remainers still wanting to dress their beleifs up in a cloak of patriotism, when thier project's DNA is all about elimination of the nation state. Do your reasearch and look at the direction of travel from De Gaulle / Koudenhove-Calergi through to the present day.

This is the 'Hard Remain' we NEVER hear(d) about and the lies (by omission) that went and still go unspoken about the garden path up which they all want to lead us.

For me, it's simple. You can be European - and go with your bad-self brother, you'll get no argument from me as long as youre honest about it - or you can be British. Binary option.

Because if you're the former, you're about eliminating the latter
Report moisok • January 31, 2019 4:10 PM GMT
The one thing I fear is that we will not seize the opportunity of freedom from the eu straight jacket - look at our leadership in the westmonster bubble - they are going to be upset when the gravy train to brussels is cut off.
Report Just Checking • January 31, 2019 4:20 PM GMT
I was just reading that even when Cameron was trying to negotiate better terms with the EU, they were pressuring him to take more of the vibrant migbrants Merkel invited (without asking anyone else), and of course Poland/Hungary/Czechs who rightly told them to "**** off with that" are being SUED by the EU. Sued. Unbelievable if you didn't know what a shower of b*stards run the thing.

How anyone who values their future could continue to want to be a part of that sick institution, I don't get it.
Report moisok • January 31, 2019 4:32 PM GMT
Reminds me of the Vogon Constructor Fleet creating a new hyperspaceway??  When the fleet arrives,  the earthlings are told the earth is being destroyed to make way for it, they ask how come and what notice was there??  The  notice had been hanging in a room in  some unpronounceable and distant planet for years and they should have known all about it  ha ha   

Did you approve of the Ukrainian adventure by the way.
Report Just Checking • January 31, 2019 4:36 PM GMT
Well if the hitchhikers guide taught us anything, it's that on brexit day we shouldn't panic, and we should make sure we have a towel.
Report moisok • January 31, 2019 4:38 PM GMT
I won't starve.  I will eat out every evening.   Drink all day in the local 'spoons'   it won't affect me.
Report Just Checking • January 31, 2019 6:23 PM GMT
Unbelievably stupid question from BBC journalist to guy who is to do with getting things through the channel tunnel, who just said he was ready for a No Deal Brexit.
"Can you guarantee everyone else will be ready"?
Has a more stupid question been asked in the history of journalism?
Report Hanx • February 1, 2019 8:29 AM GMT
Well, other than yappy little Laura Kuenssberg shouting across Downing St "Will you be resigning minister?" when the paper clip order for Whitehall is 10 short, I can't think of one
Report SontaranStratagem • February 1, 2019 10:26 AM GMT
Seems the media has seized an opportunity to report on nothing but the snow Cry, no Brexit and no Theresa May

funny that, everytime people actually start asking obvious questions the media are quick to shout look over there...

Now the obvious question is, why is there a short term blackout when it comes to Brexit?

My question is: Does it matter if the MPs are incompetent or doing it on purpose? they should be removed regardless

Media drops mic and starts talking about the snow CrazyLaugh
Report SontaranStratagem • February 1, 2019 10:27 AM GMT
They shouldn't be allowed to get away with it but hey ho
Report SontaranStratagem • February 1, 2019 10:32 AM GMT
Just go turn on BBC and SKY, and the websites as well

Absolutely nothing in regards to "brexit", its all wall to wall coverage of bit of snow, why isn't anyone picking up on this?

What's been said about the MPs whereby they have dropped the whole brexit thing and now only reporting on a foot of snow being the end of time?

Very odd. And its the same with Trump in America, every single time the sheep start asking questions the media drop it like a hot potato and move onto something else, whether that's the weather or a celebrity death etc

They can keep changing the subject but we've got to be onto them about it
Report SontaranStratagem • February 1, 2019 10:39 AM GMT
Tell a lie Linekar is on the bottom of SKYs website feed saying

"we still want to be friends after Brexit"

Awwww bless

Linekar is such a doll
Report n88uk • February 1, 2019 4:18 PM GMT
Well tbf many are sick of Brexit and probably happy to see news on something else. Especially the news on Brexit is nothing of substance, just Theresa May is going to go to Brussels and get nothing. People don't need to listen to x, y, z MP talk crap on the matter and tell us how the EU will cave when they see the white of our eyes.
Report moisok • February 1, 2019 5:41 PM GMT
What happened to the snow bomb - it's all melted here in west london

In fact I might give a lecture on it as I am so arrogant and always right.
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