leo varadkar is clever.

....or an IDIOT !

everything she has done has failed; if her deal goes through it will be because of others immense failures, not her cleverness. She doesn't write a letter without a civil servant holding her hand. She is a narcissus and nutcase. Most 'leaders' are puppets to some degree; the nutcase is a fantoccini encased in pearls

fantoccini, sounds nice, does it contain olives?

May contain nuts.

BUT ITS MY OPINION that this was all planed by the big three,Theresa ,Jacob  R.M., and Micheal Gove,Theresa because she is PM,jACOB because he has an IQ of 10,000 %(he is a guru)and Micheal because he will stab anyone in the back(you can rely on Micheal to do the stabbing correctly,all the others would stab in the belly. but Micheal likes the back.

Boris seething that he aint the big three.

And the big three will keep saying" we want to do this in the national interest"

Micheal took care of Boris AND is now in line for the position as the new finance minister ,when Theresa comes into her new kingdom.

brassneck; you are a good chap, but don't be giving a screaming nutcase credit for something that may accidentally fall into place. You give her way too much credence. She has been out manoeuvred & gunned  by a bunch of peed up bureaucrats. Her 'advisors' haven't helped i know; but the buck stops etc etc

this girl will deliver,thats what she was asked to do.
1000/1 down to 1.01 thats some market move.

she was asked to deliver the countrys vote; she hasn't & won't

its called "check" ,when you play a game of chess,the object of the game is to trap the king.

one of the questions that should be on any new form if another referendum is ordered is,"Do you realise whichever way you vote; it will still have to be passed in the House before being implemented" I wonder how many voters in 2016 knew this?

nature always takes its own course,the clock is ticking and everyone else is trying  to stop Theresa from delivering brexit.
"brexit means Brexit"

15% thought they would be out the following month.

aye

too late for a referendum,no time.the crash out will occur before a referendum can be held.
And Theresa is not looking for more time.

but what most people don't know is that the only way to get an extension in time ,the rule states that the time given must be used to rejoin or remain.(they like to keep that bit silent)

no brassneck, there won't be another ref; i was just using it to make a point

i am past caring about it all,i really don't know what will happen,but i imagine that 98% of all the politicians will resign before the next election
and the remaining few will not retain their seats,because they all made a laugh of the UK people and people never forget when their lives are in danger of meltdown .its a thundering disgrace that 600 people can hold an entire country to ransom and care little of the outcome,once they have power.its also so so so sad for the people who can do nothing about it.

i agree with all of that, brassneck (except the resignations) I'm ashamed to say that i once held the corridors of power in the highest esteem, and dreamed of joining them. Just like most things in the world self adulation & serving now rules; & nearly all of MP's forget what they actually became politicians for

They mostly gone in to get the snoot in the truffles for starters.

i think if they crash out the UK will go through a deep deep depression.just like Ireland after the banking crash.even today there are thousands of Irish people who lost their homes.The UK will get out of their trouble in 20 years time because of the size of the population but they will have to borrow billions upon billions of the IMF to keep the economy going,watches and clocks will be turned back 200 years,and god love the young children of the land.Ireland will be no better but at least they will be still part of the EU.
BUT I WISH I HAD THE WORDS TO LET PEOPLE KNOW HOW CLOSE THE UK ARE COMING TO A DOOMSDAY SCENARIO.and the big problem is that the muppets of westminster don't give a flying feck what happens.its heart rendering

Leo played a stormer as the EU's puppet.

I'm with Baphornet on this,sunny meadows,easiest deal ever,it really should have been a piece of cake to have a reasonable deal.

There is no "masterplan" Brassneck, too many firms grabbing the parachutes,the Queen getting involved,gone too far for that.

I don't want to be right and hope the post is brought up on 1st april and laughed at but it seems to be the sorryiest saga of ineptitude ever.

But!!   on the 30th march we will still be trading.

people are making out that everything will stop - oh yeah?????  do you think those in europe will go for that one??   
I bet the rubber boats will carry on arriving  ha ahahhaha

1st April .. is it surely 1.01 newspapers/media will have Brexit themed "april 1st" jokes? Like if Brexit proceeds "Brexit cancelled" stories or vice versa, that sort of thing?

no mobile phones,that will stop everyone.

The Veruka's an areshole.

hth

The only reason varadkar is still there is because of brexit no one else wants the job at the moment he is an arrogant clown

Simon Coveney playing a blinder on the Andrew Marr,couldn't dispute much of that.

Pity fragrant Arlene made such a balls of the RHI, a massive overspend of British taxpayers money,which in turn led to the devolution of Stormont at a time when it was badly needed.

Agree with G Hall, Varadkar is a clown

Just saw some Irish guy on Marr show trying to say the EU and Ireland are being the reasonable ones yet the back stop can't be changed.

The back stop is totally unacceptable. How stupid does the man have to be to not realise that a deal that binds us to the EU for ETERNITY with no veto and no way out is not acceptable? How can he say that with a straight face.

Oh and how could the useless Marr get Sturgeon on and not grill her about the SNP "ministry of Truth" going round their website the other day and airbrushing Alex Salmond out of all their history? All the major newspapers were having fun with it. Salmond is of coure angry. It's laughable, how could the useless b&stard Marr not take her up on that? E.g. the 2014 campaign led by salmond (of course) is now:
"spearheaded by the SNP and its then depute leader Nicola Sturgeon". Salmond removed

But the backstop was agreed by the UK,the deal was signed and negotiated,it isn't anyones fault except the UK for agreeing to it.

Irish guy in interview vetoed any attempt to change it to be reasonable while at the same time trying to say it was the UK was being unresaonable. The "it's indefinite" is FUNDAMENTALLY UNACCEPTABLE. It is fundamentally not a reasonable thing to demand. You'd have to be a moron to not see that. Yet he was saying that must stay!! This is of course the sort of thing May has been trying to argue against and "compromise" with I'm sure behind the scenes. If the Irish won't budge with that then they can go take a hike.

"You would have to be a moron not to see that".  But the fact remains it was agreed at the negotiating stage a few months ago, point the finger at your negotiaing politians,they didn't see it.

Well we are where we are now. We know that's the main sticking point, we can see why, yet this Irish guy says it's not acceptable to change it. It's quite probable that was the line during negotiation, I very much doubt the UK said "we want this" as their demand.

Either it changes or we go with no deal.
No way can we allow any foreign country to dictate to us.

^ That is all well and good, the other side of the coin is if you think you can dictate to the EU best of luck with that project.

In their eyes it was all agreed(albeit subject to passing parliament),now the deal is being reneged on.

The whole charade is done and dusted on the EU's side, a few to leave and the UK is in this position,really?

Your politicians are failing the people badly.

"a few weeks to leave" ^

no one is trying to dictate to the EU , either they want a trade deal or they don’t
Its their decision

By the way the deal is not being reneged on , it’s not acceptable

And whose fault is that lfc? Why was it "negotiated" in the first place? Surely someone should be accountable for that but they haven't been.

You have to be aware once the Irish are involved in anything common sense goes out the window

That’s the fundamental problem really , the deal would be fine between the U.K. and the EU

The Irish are rightly clinging to the Good Friday agreement. They share a border with the UK,the UK are leaving the EU hth.

In their eyes it was all agreed(albeit subject to passing parliament),now the deal is being reneged on.

The deal isn't being reneged on simply because there was no deal only an agreed position to put to Westminster.
Parliament rejected it as was its democratic right to do so.

Yep,deal,agreed position,not much difference there.

That’s what I mean, there would be no need for the good Friday agreement if the Irish weren’t such troublemakers

It really is ludicrous for pa lapsy to say that the Irish aren’t to blame when it is the Irish who are causing all the trouble

The irish have a simple solution.
Leave the EU and rejoin the Union.

Pa; it wasn't the UK who agreed to the deal, it was the nutcase. I know she represents the UK but every time her name is left out & the UK replaces it, it absolves her of the blame. Just like every one in the Commons calls it the PM's deal, & not the UK's deal' so it should be for the agreement she signed (and no one ever asks why) & no one else wants

Haha, rejoin 800 years of abuse,nice one.

Deary me he’s going back 800 years now : (
no wonder there’s no progress

We could cut you a deal on all the Billions you owe us.

Fair point,Baphornet, i alluded to that in 10.02, it is almost criminal.

No doubt there will be a few of ye down in a few years trying to flog us some cheap Argentine beef,that is the realism.

it's ok, Pa the rest of the UK don't say it either

there is only one person to blame for the mess; & she still resides at No10 and gets a free ride

pm May is doing a very good job so far

They don't Bap.Lovely media,EU, Ireland are the bogeymen, don't dare criticise captain zombie of the good ship titanic who wants to go up for a closer look at the iceberg.

Put the blame where it lies , the remainer troublemakers and the Irish troublemakers , thanks

TM probably playing everyone like a fiddle.
The final outcome will reveal all.

Especially the Irish because with them  there’s the threat of violence
The remainers haven’t gone that far yet

The ROI should have been talking to the UK about a border solution from the moment we voted to leave.
What did they do? Stand side by side with the EU sabre rattling.

There is no need for a border solution between civilised countries

^ The UK hadn't a clue about the border until quite a long time after they voted to leave.

It is protecting the Good Friday agreement and that is so right.

Too difficult for the Irish ?

Bit difficult for you lfc to come to the conclusion that there are more than Catholics in NI.

she signed a deal that everyone hates. Then the follow-up for months of "It's a good deal, it's the best deal, it's the only deal"! Alongside the promise that her 'baby' will not be changed. Her deal gets annihilated by an all party vote. She then backs down - changes the deal (in a way we don't know yet) and gets cheered in the corridors of power and the media. Now she will pretend to try and change the mind of the Bureaucrats, slide on home & snivel about "Trying her best" get cheered like Churchill in 1945 & threaten the country & her party with NO BREXIT!!!

but she's doing a "very good job so far"

pa lapsy it’s very simple when the Catholics and Protestants vote to leave the UK and firm a United Ireland that’s fine
Until then they should behave themselves

^ Hence the Good Friday agreement and in the main they are.

Bang on bap.

Mrs May is doing her best for the country and to respect the referendum result and leave the EU 
She deserves praise

They shouldn’t need a good fussy agreement in order to behave themselves
What’s difficult to understand about that ?

* good Friday :)

My goodness how many times does it need to be explained to the Irish
When they vote to leave they can leave

You keep believing in Mrs May Lfc,good man, she has the UKS reputation in tatters abroad,many businesses have/are bailing out of your country,she is doing her best, she might do better yet.

That’s ok pa lapsy , how lovely to leave those we love with a bad impression of us

pa lapsy nowt to do with this thread but its just came to mind.
I remember reading about some Chinese investment in the ROI.
Seemed massive, did it happen. I can't remember any of the details.

Not aware of it akabula,doubt it happened,though have seen "headlines" in past couple of years saying their investment is growing.

now we hear from Jeremy Hunt that there may be a delay to Article 50. Now just how many times has the nutcase stoically denied a delay?

Saw that Bap, no surprise though as seems little chance they UK can be prepared for march 29th.

A funny but true clip from the BBC yesterday,

https:www.irishtimes.com/new/offbeat/this-could-be-the-funniest-piece-of-brexit-news-so-far-this-year

or google irishtimes,funniest piece of brexit news (if i made a balls of the link)

comical , I don’t think the Irish should be making jokes like that , maybe they will have a little laugh with their friends in Berlin

It was the brussels broadcasting corporation (BBC), please read post properly.

Irish times

We aren't all Ulster unionists lfc,we do laugh.

So do the British of course , it is quite funny
I wasn’t being too critical really , but you know there is friendly mocking humour ,
and sneering, I’m not sure which that was in the Irish times
That’s a pity really

What do you think I’m not sure ?

I won't read anything into it,certainly not "sneering",it was an innocent mistake by bbc, i thought there was a certain aptness about it and if someone did it deliberately,i would have found it quite funny still.
Think you are reading too much into it myself.

Akabula 31st jan 10.11

Ireland leave the EU and rejoin the union.

It was with great sadness i saw there is actually a petition currently happening with this.

Only 1211 signatures though,

I assume that the Irish hate the English even more than the Scots do.
The Irish wantto use our roads FOC.

Not really RC,only a few.

Yes, the roads are dead handy.

I think a united British isles would be wonderful.
Over the years so many Irish have benefitted from coming here and we’ve enjoyed your stout.

Pa  - I will have you know that whole Argi  fillets are very nice

I nose

Two fundamentally different physches though(that in itself isn't meant to be negative on either country). The "match" wouldn't be entertained on any dating website.

psyches even,eye nose u nose moisek.

If we can put up with the Scots we can live with you.
That Hadrian bloke had the best idea.

At times i think it is a bit of a pity in bygones times(1921) there wasn't a "murphys fence" or something built to seperate North and South.

Scots are Celtic as well,they are mostly ok and allowances must be made because of the size of their heating bills.