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New legislation begins today, with all alcohol now priced at a minimum of 50p per unit.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-43948081
I nipped into Tesco last night and they'd already got the new pricing underway. To make it clear, I'm a cheap tart - if I'm having a little sup during the week, then I'll generally reach for a 4-pack of Stella. No great change to the price.
Very occasionally, if it's a lovely evening, I might get a few ciders. Because I'm even more of a prole when it comes to this and don't appreciate a nice cider, I've tended towards the bargain basement end - have picked up a 4-pack of 440ml cans (either 5% if not 5.2%) for a princely £3. Had a look at these last night and they were £4.67 or something, set to the new guidelines.
Can imagine you'd be hard-pressed (*ahem*) to get a bottle of wine for under a fiver now, and I think a litre bottle of spirits won't be found for under £13 now. Ok, means the Christmas booze cruise will be a bit pricier, but not by masses in the great scheme of things.
But I've just done a quick search and found you can get a 3-litre bottle of 7.5% Frosty Jack cider for £3.69.
How much is one 'o them going to cost the neds now?
So for me, I'm all in favour. Think it will go some way to reducing anti-social behaviour, maybe get others moderating intake a bit more.
Was slightly surprised that there's no element of tax to this (extra money goes straight to the supermarkets) where as I'd have siphoned off some of the additional profits and put it towards alcohol support groups etc.
One thing I wondered: if you do an online supermarket shop, do they have a method in place for upping the booze price north of the border?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-43948081
I nipped into Tesco last night and they'd already got the new pricing underway. To make it clear, I'm a cheap tart - if I'm having a little sup during the week, then I'll generally reach for a 4-pack of Stella. No great change to the price.
Very occasionally, if it's a lovely evening, I might get a few ciders. Because I'm even more of a prole when it comes to this and don't appreciate a nice cider, I've tended towards the bargain basement end - have picked up a 4-pack of 440ml cans (either 5% if not 5.2%) for a princely £3. Had a look at these last night and they were £4.67 or something, set to the new guidelines.
Can imagine you'd be hard-pressed (*ahem*) to get a bottle of wine for under a fiver now, and I think a litre bottle of spirits won't be found for under £13 now. Ok, means the Christmas booze cruise will be a bit pricier, but not by masses in the great scheme of things.
But I've just done a quick search and found you can get a 3-litre bottle of 7.5% Frosty Jack cider for £3.69.
How much is one 'o them going to cost the neds now?So for me, I'm all in favour. Think it will go some way to reducing anti-social behaviour, maybe get others moderating intake a bit more.
Was slightly surprised that there's no element of tax to this (extra money goes straight to the supermarkets) where as I'd have siphoned off some of the additional profits and put it towards alcohol support groups etc.
One thing I wondered: if you do an online supermarket shop, do they have a method in place for upping the booze price north of the border?
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I am in favour of this, in general, but find it incredible that the supermarkets profit from the price rises.
Always a treat to head over the Tweed, donny. 
Jack... I agree. The more I think about it, the more I can't quite work that bit out. Even putting aside the argument of whether any extra profits should go to the government in tax, I Would have thought manufacturers would have just as strong an argument to say their sales will be hit as retailers. Presumably they'll raise their wholesale price accordingly to sort that one out.
Jack... I agree. The more I think about it, the more I can't quite work that bit out. Even putting aside the argument of whether any extra profits should go to the government in tax, I Would have thought manufacturers would have just as strong an argument to say their sales will be hit as retailers. Presumably they'll raise their wholesale price accordingly to sort that one out.
hard border in Scotland to stop scores of white vans carrying cheaper cider and selling in Scotland, if the wholesale price goes up shops etc will just pop over the border to stock up surely, yey another ill thought out policy problem drinkers will either have enough to buy their normal drink,travel to England or buy it cheaper of those travelling from England to Scotland to sell it
you already have millions upon millions paying 4,5 6times mark ups in pubs ,clubs etc rather than buying it in supermarkets
tough if you dont live near the border, but if you do then scottish
supermarkets will miss out with folk doing their shopping in england
whilst buying a few bottles of wine.
supermarkets will miss out with folk doing their shopping in england
whilst buying a few bottles of wine.
Just spend less money on groceries and clothes for the bairns.
It should be illegal for the government to try and stop people drinking
It really is unbelievable that in any grown up and free society people would put up with that sort of nonsense from those ***** in parliament
smoking,gambling,and now drinking all subject to the nanny state and all once considered the pleasures,vices of the working man, imagine the multi billionaires of their day pit owners,factory owners,mill owners telling their workers how t,what to eat,drink,smoke gamble on
Eventually they'll find very affordable drugs is the real problem (mainly synthetic tablets that mimic opiates but are stronger i.e Fentanyl) and drinking is only a small part of many a long term wasters' daily regime,that's how it is in the North East of England and the taxpayer funds it via PIP 
Simple solution to the border problem do the same here. As a drinker of only kwality booze it doesn't effect me. So I'm alright(Frosty) Jack.
thank foook, tax avoidance, short selling,insider trading isn't frowned upon by this government, 
I don't drink,smoke,play fotb,s,eat takeaways or drink sugary drinks but I,m thinking of taking the fooooking lot up just because I don't like been told what to do and always fancied myself as a bit of a rebel,
Simple solution to the border problem do the same here. As a drinker of only kwality booze it doesn't effect me. So I'm alright(Frosty) Jack.
Your right, Buckfast isn't affected by the new minimum pricing.
to quote del boys line about uncle alberts birthday bash in the nags head
theres a bank holiday coming up some nicer weather,don't
drink
gamble
smoke
eat processed meat,bacon etc
no takeaways
no sugary drinks,sweets etc,
but treason may wants everyone to enjoy themselves,
theres a bank holiday coming up some nicer weather,don't
drink
gamble
smoke
eat processed meat,bacon etc
no takeaways
no sugary drinks,sweets etc,
but treason may wants everyone to enjoy themselves,
Only a couple of **** like Crappen and Moisok could try and get a couple of digs in about Islam on a thread about alcohol pricing in Scotland
Berwick Upon Tweed is a mere 1 hour drive from Edinburgh , 40 mins by train, Carlise in under 2 hours from Glasgow so you can bypass this draconian minimum pricing very easily from 2 of Scotland's biggest cities. A bottle of buckfast is about 7 or 8 quid for 75cl and about 15%, more expensive than a bottle of wine, yet the neds still buy that stuff. The SNP figures saying the measures will save 392 lives in the first five years, thats 78 life's a year, there are bigger problems out there IMO. Scotland are the first country in the world to do this, and Sturgeon is loving all the publicity that this is bringing, but it is irreversible, no party coming in to power is ever going to go back, and it will be coming to England, Wales and NI soon, and you can thank the Wee Scottish Witch for that.
how does it work then,its not banned just made more expensive so those with a problem after they,ve ran out of money like a junkie will be just desperate for more, and as the nhs describe something like more than 15 units a week as giving you health problems,these price increases aint going to stop anyuone drink to much today affording more than 15 units a week, not withstanding those dying rightly or wrongly connected to drtinmk ,dying of something else or are the snp giving life guarantee,s for those who reduce their intake, poor jocks cant even turn to the iron bru because little old jamie,s putting tax on that
The jocks need to change the culture where you are defined by whether you drink and how much. It's the same in some of the big english cities - some people think its strange if you haven't had a drink by lunchtime or if you're not planning to have one later.
I always thought they got declared mentally unfit if you parked badly.
AFAIK there are a number of ways around this. Online deliveries / deliveries like click and collect can get round it for example.
Also there is from what I heard no limits on bundling, so like you get your booze and bundle it with some frozen chips and pizza as a meal and get it for the original price, in effect. People are resourceful when pushed to it.
It's the nanny state so f=ck em.
Also there is from what I heard no limits on bundling, so like you get your booze and bundle it with some frozen chips and pizza as a meal and get it for the original price, in effect. People are resourceful when pushed to it.
It's the nanny state so f=ck em.
as Jamie horrible lectures mp,s on sugar tax, its revealed kids meals in his Italian joints have more sugar and salt in them than burger king and pizza express, nice to see these chefie types who,ve made millions out of pushing high calorific meals at people for 30 years now worried about our health,once their bank accounts are bulging
the thought of scots with frozen chips to chill their buckfast , lol
Talk now of a hard border being put in place between Scotland and England to stop booze cruising.Whatever next?
I reckon that most of the predicted 400 lives aren't worth saving anyway.
Maybe being too harsh. They will probably turn into valuable members of society.
Or maybe sponge off the state for another 20 years?
Maybe being too harsh. They will probably turn into valuable members of society.
Or maybe sponge off the state for another 20 years?
according to the do gooders, lots on here they,ll have all the spare cash they've saved from the fobt,s to spend on the more expensive booze
An unintended consequence could be better quality booze going up in price to keep up the price differential
An unintended consequence could be better quality booze going up in price to keep up the price differential
Will definitely happen if rest of UK does the same thing. The supermarkets might not bother just now due to online prices changing depending on whether you stay in or out of Scotland and Scotland only being a small part of the market but if it comes in across the UK there's no way they will be selling the premium drinks at the same price as standard ones.
if you smoke heavily and drink ,then you should get a tax refund on the beer part as it's the ciggies that are most likely going to finish you off - they won't both kill you at the same time
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