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brassneck
28 Jan 18 17:57
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i have to be careful what i say so i will just post the facts.
1=there are 79 million turkish people living in turkey.
2=98% of them want to improve their lives by going to the uk.
3=an ankora agreement is in place to allow all turkish people to travel to the uk to start a business under immigration law .this law is controlled by europe since the uk joined europe.
4=europe at the moment are controlling this law and it is written in stone under european law.
5=when the uk leave(brexit)the EU the law will pass back to uk.
6=so then the uk will control their own law on immigration.
7=now remember the uk must leave europe to get control of this law.
8=the 79 million turks are waiting to see what happens.
9=all will be well will be well when the uk break free from europe and make their own laws.
10=the problem i see is that the uk signed the ankora law before they joined the EU.
11=trade deals and customs union membership may become a problem for the ankora law.
12= there is bound to be a test case in the courts when  when uk brexit.
13=what courts hear the case i am not sure,uk courts or european courts.
14=meanwhile 79 million turks await the outcome.
15 =i have tried to post the facts as clear as i can understand them.
16=make your own judgement of what ,might,will, or could happen in the future
17.= now you know how serious brexit is or could be in the future.
18= hope this helps.
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Report Petraco • January 28, 2018 6:08 PM GMT
Does anyone know why 77,420,000 people think that their lives would be improved by coming to the UK?
Report unitedbiscuits • January 28, 2018 6:09 PM GMT
WAC
Report brassneck • January 28, 2018 6:11 PM GMT
all the need is a passport.i think.
they believe that the uk streets are paved with gold,i believe.
Report moisok • January 28, 2018 6:12 PM GMT
it is called flooding  - didn't farage warn us about this with the romanians and was shouted down only to be proven right

open doors is good for us even if we have to pay them benefits

I read it in the guardian
Report dave1357 • January 28, 2018 6:24 PM GMT
Could you please provide a source for all this please.  I'm pretty sure that all your 18 points are incorrect (although #1 might be arguable).  Which is quite remarkable for someone claiming to be posting "just the facts".
Report woundedknee • January 28, 2018 6:29 PM GMT
79 million turks followed by 100 million claiming to be turks
Report s.kenbo • January 28, 2018 6:40 PM GMT
I'm struggling to find a decent kebab house within a seven mile radius of my house. This happening could be a blessing for me!
Report brassneck • January 28, 2018 7:19 PM GMT
source=article 13 ECAA
Report dave1357 • January 28, 2018 7:57 PM GMT
So why haven't 79 million Turks already moved to the UK?
Report Callisto-moon • January 28, 2018 8:23 PM GMT
will make turjey a great holiday destination with none of them forigen bods clogging up the atmos.
Report STUDYFORM • January 28, 2018 8:37 PM GMT
If you numbers 1,2,8 and 14, it means 238,580,000 Turks want to live in the UK.
This might lead to record numbers of Barber's Shops.
Report tictacman1 • January 28, 2018 8:39 PM GMT
Best street kebabs in the world......'Adana Kebabı'
Report moisok • January 28, 2018 8:39 PM GMT
with erd the goon pulling the strings
Report STUDYFORM • January 28, 2018 8:39 PM GMT

Jan 28, 2018 -- 6:24PM, dave1357 wrote:


Could you please provide a source for all this please.

Report moisok • January 28, 2018 8:40 PM GMT
Turkey?Crazy
Report STUDYFORM • January 28, 2018 8:40 PM GMT
ffs, poxy forum, only bits of posts are posting.

Still, that'll be a bit less for them to remove.
Report STUDYFORM • January 28, 2018 8:43 PM GMT
Could you please provide a source for all this please. {b] I'm pretty sure that all your 18 points are incorrect (although #1 might be arguable). [/b] Which is quite remarkable for someone claiming to be posting "just the facts".

It reminds me of Baldrick writing "Merry Christmas" and getting ALL the letters wrong.
Report brassneck • January 28, 2018 10:04 PM GMT
dave,do you not realise that europe are holding them back,its europe that have the power of the law at present.
Report dave1357 • January 28, 2018 10:43 PM GMT
they aren't.  The reg you refer to allows Turks to apply for a visa to set up a business in the uk now.  The viability is checked on application.  The business is checked after 12 months and again after 3 years.

The main problem from Turkey is going to be refugees when the increasing insane Erdogan gets booted from Nato, goes full islamofascist and goes to war with his neighbours leading to another surge of refugees.
Report brassneck • January 28, 2018 10:51 PM GMT
well now you know dave,and you thought i was bull****,so you see how serious it is when the uk leave the eu ,a test case in law (i guess) will be brought forward on the wording of the ankora agreement that the uk signed in 1963 before they joined europe.
Report dave1357 • January 28, 2018 11:04 PM GMT
yeah thats right, all 800 million of them can come over now, but are waiting till brexit to take advantage of all the kebab opportunities as we "open for business". 

Although if I was such a Turkish entrepreneur, I might just, due to my keen businessman's wits think there could more than a slight chance that the govt of the day passes a law (if that is even necessary) saying that Turkish entrepreneurs are no longer required as brexit has resulted in a surfeit of them.
Report brassneck • January 28, 2018 11:16 PM GMT
there is a stand down part added to the old agreement between uk and turkey by europe.if the uk take back control of their own laws after they leave the stand down part will not be valid.The UK still use european law but when they leave they will be on their own.
i am sure they will work it out,but if it ends up in the courts it could take years and years for a decision,and the big question is will it be uk courts or european courts that decide the final ruling.
Report brassneck • January 28, 2018 11:26 PM GMT
it looks like the uk will have to abide with european law when they leave or send an invite  to come to London to the turkish people.
Report moisok • January 29, 2018 1:02 PM GMT
PS   turkey have already invaded syria

hope this helps
Report Slicer • January 29, 2018 1:10 PM GMT
Turkey is in real trouble. At the bottom of the National League and certain to be relegated!
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