Homeless people?

undercover SAS nap

Think what good all the foreign aid would do if the government believed that charity begins at home!

any homeless person with an ounce of savy will get themselves down to all the media,luvies around grenfell tower

Most of it isn't really "aid", dr slicer. It goes to corrupt wealthy people in exchange for government contracts, as I'm sure you know.

Precisely!

So if we didn't bribe em we'd get no contracts. What to do.

it always surprises me that more people don't live on the streets.

it would suit some people , it is something I could do.

Some people do prefer it , they cant cope with the rat race or many cant handle any responsibilty

Course lots of other issues , realationships , drugs , no money , mental illness , etc

I mean who wants to deal with bills , BT  , Eon , etc 24/7

yes that's true anxious, there are aspects that appeal, if you have a phone and a radio , that is quite important

that's something you need if you want to continue following chit chat, and football, and golf, and a bet every day.
on the streets. its good.

I regularly give a few quid to homelesss people and street buskers. I know the p.c. thing to do would be to buy them food and tea but if they want to get a couple of beers instead then I'm fine with that.

I KNOW 2 THAT ARE ON KIRKCALDY HIGH STREET,,they are parners,  1 sits at one end of the street ,the other sit at the other end,,  they have a house in kirkcaldy but make out they are homeless,,, the girls gran and mother stay in the same street as me,,  but what can you do ,,  i wouldnt report them ,,  they have been doing this for a few years now ,,

Yes lfc some of them get hold of second hand tablets or i-pads  , in Manchester i know a few of them there not bad guys , just cant cope with whatevers happened some of them

Like any group though some of them can be a bit crafty sometimes

I they wouldve asked for a can of beer i wouldve got them a few but they were quite happy with coffees

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I knew a couple who were homeless and lived on the streets, they were both well educated I think she had been a teacher.
the local council got them a house in quite a nice part of town but they didn't stay and ended back on the streets.
They never harmed anyone in their lives.

If the council bought em a van they could've been travellers.

no, they liked to walk. they didn't want to drink and drive

this is freedom ? but perhaps it cant be borne for long.

it can be cold, and it can be very wintry and you must always keep moving.

The winters are  very harsh on the streets , its like natures cull

Living in a box - I'm living in a cardboard box.

Is that a song crippen ?

Yes

Ive known a few re-housed and all that , lasted about 18 months tops and then they were back out on the streets

Matthew 6:1

Be careful not to do your 'acts of righteousness' before men, to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven

^I think most on here have got that covered anyway.
The first part I mean.

That passage from the Bible quoted there by jamesdean, what about performers who put on concerts and suchlike with the proceeds going to charity? I don't think that would go down very well with them.

A lot of town centres are quite harsh environments for the homeless. A lot of them can't get into shelters because of their behaviours. But we then make things harder by hiring people to awaken them with a kick if they sleep at railway stations, and lock up cycle shelters.
Solution - every railway station and council offices car park to have a covered homeless friendly platform or zone marked off where they can crash for the night until 7am.

Strange how after a Disaster they can Find housing for People Yet thousands Left on the Street year in Year out..

bongo


great idea

I agree bongo.

There are a lot of charities that help but actually having  a roof over their head is still a problem, which it shouldn't be in this day and age.  There are loads of empty buildings that could be used and possibly could be a law that if a building is left empty for more than say a year then they have to let the homeless use it.  Volunteers could oversee the site so no harm is done.  This works brilliantly at the moment whereby churches etc open their doors in winter on certain days for the homeless.

Some smaller charities do far more for the homeless than the big ones.  Shelter gets I think about 60,000,000 million a year but this justs goes on 'advice' that can he had other places. For that money they could actually build hostels etc.  Compare this to the Salvation Army who do a lot of practical help for the homeless.  Hot food, showers, sleeping bags, clothes, day centres and real face to face advice and more importantly action.  If you are made homeless check to see if there is a salvation army center close by.  There are also lots of churches that help out with food.

As soon as anyone starts to help they become accountable if anything goes wrong.

Provide shelter and pretty soon an official will turn up and start telling you what else you have to provide.

I will never forget the day i was walking past a shop doorway one Evening and this old Tramp called me over and asked me if i wanted a Pork Pie as somebody gave it to him and he hated them,i declined his kind offer......Then walking away i thought Fook Me how Rough Do i Look.

bught some contranband tobacco once gave it to a guy i know on the street
gave it me back said it was fake shoite next day

I took a trolley back at the supermarket the other day, and there was this drunk who very politely asked me for a light who I'd seen in the supermarket earlier.
He'd walked out of the supermarket looking at some small change in his hand muttering that he hadn't got enough money.

I put my trolley back and took out the coin and instinctively handed it to this bloke, he snatched it out of my hand and was back in the supermarket like a rat down a drain.

If he hadn't been so quick and I'd thought about it I'd have given some more money, but he was gone.

I wonder what he bought?

was it EO dr he knew u only good for a quid

I must admit I laughed all the way home.

He wasn't begging, I just automatically handed it to him.

I nearly lost me fingers.

most homeless folk will either have a drug problem or mental illness .

most will have had  accomodation (many times over)  many private sector / some lucky ones  secure  council accom .

With mental illness very often comes the inability to cope with running a house/flta- bills don't get paid / rum  folk befriended and 'take over' the property for drug use etc - then eviction is the final call .

There is no hope for many - house them and the same scenario  creeps around  with anti social orders along the way - complaints from neighbors .

multiple accom doesn't solve the problem,in fact increases as friction is caused  .  Very often sleeping ion churches /shelter is the only viable option . 

20 years ago ,a lot of homeless folk may have been more secure in a mental health accom

@acey

That was 15 Years ago case.....Still makes me Laugh.