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skygrill
How do I explain to a non-muslim that music is haram?
As the title says, thank you.
May Allah bless us all
Abu 'Abdullaah
Is this about explaining why you don't listen to music?
Abu Kamel
Allah knows best, but it may be better to explain to a "non-Muslim" that the phenomenon of "harmony" "melody" "rhythm" "tone" "dynamics" are intended for the recitation and worship of Allah AWJ.
These elements occur in nature: the melody of the song bird, the rhythm of the heart, the tone and dynamic of the lion's roar, etc. Man duplicates and has the capacity to arrange and compose.
These elements are most likely intended for the beautification and elevation of the words of Allah AWJ. The first Man was Adam who worshipped Allah and spoke and recited the words of Allah long before any instrument or vile song occurred. And the most beautiful voice every heard by a human was the voice of the Prophet Da`ud in recitation of the Holy revelations of Allah.
And the most everlasting and most holy words for mankind now are from the Holy Quran.
So the capacity to compose and arrange and perform in Mankind is really intended for the recitation and beautification of the Words of Allah AWJ, but are wrongly used and wasted on what has become an evil empire and global industry of music, used by the enemies of Allah.
Door
best is just say that is your religious belief.
If you are trying to to get a non-muslim to agree with you on this, that is not going to happen so best not even to try.
Aynina
You just scream "HARAAAAM"
just say bc of the content, and if they ask about clean music then idk,
Rifqah
I don't know, but I'd be interested to know. I know it's haram and I obey the ruling but I don't really know why.
Just for clarity, I'm not referring to vulgar lyrics and music videos but maybe even orchestral music, classical and jazz.
Gingerbeardman
It's a side issue, explain that you don't listen to music because it is prohibited by Allah, and that you try to submit yourself to Him alone.
Try to turn the conversation back to tawhid in other words.
Oshirowanen
I've not been able to find the reason why music is haraam either, however, I assume it's because of 1 or more of the following:
1. It takes your thoughts away from the remembrance of Allah while listening to it.
2. When not listening to it, the tune in your mind keeps your thoughts away from the remembrance of Allah.
3. Listening to music can lead to dancing, which can lead to dancing in groups, which can lead to night clubs where many immoral things are done such as adultery, fornication, drugs, alcohol, free mixing, the wearing of inappropriate cloths etc.
4. Going back to the night club example, music sometimes seems to cause emotions to go crazy, in some cases similar to being intoxicated.
Itsgiise
From what i've heard of the scholars speak about it. It relates to the ayah below:
Surah 17:64
"And incite [to senselessness] whoever you can among them with your voice and assault them with your horses and foot soldiers and become a partner in their wealth and their children and promise them." But Satan does not promise them except delusion".
They key part being your voice. I've heard many scholars refer to it as music. As it entices emotion out of us.
I could be wrong. Allah knows best
Edit: I would also look into the story of Sheeth and how music was created to deviate from the path of god.
Edit: And to answer your question. No clue since they don't believe in iblis. Good luck with that one.
How do I explain to a non-muslim that music is haram?
As the title says, thank you.
May Allah bless us all
Abu 'Abdullaah
Is this about explaining why you don't listen to music?
Abu Kamel
Allah knows best, but it may be better to explain to a "non-Muslim" that the phenomenon of "harmony" "melody" "rhythm" "tone" "dynamics" are intended for the recitation and worship of Allah AWJ.
These elements occur in nature: the melody of the song bird, the rhythm of the heart, the tone and dynamic of the lion's roar, etc. Man duplicates and has the capacity to arrange and compose.
These elements are most likely intended for the beautification and elevation of the words of Allah AWJ. The first Man was Adam who worshipped Allah and spoke and recited the words of Allah long before any instrument or vile song occurred. And the most beautiful voice every heard by a human was the voice of the Prophet Da`ud in recitation of the Holy revelations of Allah.
And the most everlasting and most holy words for mankind now are from the Holy Quran.
So the capacity to compose and arrange and perform in Mankind is really intended for the recitation and beautification of the Words of Allah AWJ, but are wrongly used and wasted on what has become an evil empire and global industry of music, used by the enemies of Allah.
Door
best is just say that is your religious belief.
If you are trying to to get a non-muslim to agree with you on this, that is not going to happen so best not even to try.
Aynina
You just scream "HARAAAAM"
just say bc of the content, and if they ask about clean music then idk,
Rifqah
I don't know, but I'd be interested to know. I know it's haram and I obey the ruling but I don't really know why.
Just for clarity, I'm not referring to vulgar lyrics and music videos but maybe even orchestral music, classical and jazz.
Gingerbeardman
It's a side issue, explain that you don't listen to music because it is prohibited by Allah, and that you try to submit yourself to Him alone.
Try to turn the conversation back to tawhid in other words.
Oshirowanen
I've not been able to find the reason why music is haraam either, however, I assume it's because of 1 or more of the following:
1. It takes your thoughts away from the remembrance of Allah while listening to it.
2. When not listening to it, the tune in your mind keeps your thoughts away from the remembrance of Allah.
3. Listening to music can lead to dancing, which can lead to dancing in groups, which can lead to night clubs where many immoral things are done such as adultery, fornication, drugs, alcohol, free mixing, the wearing of inappropriate cloths etc.
4. Going back to the night club example, music sometimes seems to cause emotions to go crazy, in some cases similar to being intoxicated.
Itsgiise
From what i've heard of the scholars speak about it. It relates to the ayah below:
Surah 17:64
"And incite [to senselessness] whoever you can among them with your voice and assault them with your horses and foot soldiers and become a partner in their wealth and their children and promise them." But Satan does not promise them except delusion".
They key part being your voice. I've heard many scholars refer to it as music. As it entices emotion out of us.
I could be wrong. Allah knows best
Edit: I would also look into the story of Sheeth and how music was created to deviate from the path of god.
Edit: And to answer your question. No clue since they don't believe in iblis. Good luck with that one.
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tbf to Beethoven I thought he captured so much of the incredible beauty through music of Allah's creation but it seems he's still a non=starter.
There should be a megathread with the amount of threads on similar topics on this forum. They appear after every incident and its the same story again and again.
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