Why doesn't Sir Donald say to Pootin.....

It's either Assad or the Jihadis.

There aren't any Lib Dems over there

I realise that, Tobes but that would be Pootins probs then.

Putin is already doing what he wants with the place. He bought the biggest horse, put it in his colours, and gave it the best tack and bridle you can buy. And as a result, it crossed the line in front.

He can always back another horse if the race is re-run. Why negotiate that position with the Americans?

Simples; he won't have to worry what to do with Basher. The world won't condemn him and the Ruskies cos it was Sir Donald who got rid. And Sir Donald wins because he will have shown himself a 'strong' POTUS..

They may even be discussing this now. Trump will do something, he has to...

Sir Donald announced earlier that he is the President of America not the President of the world.

Well this was from 8 mins ago...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/at-un-trump-administration-assails-russia-for-protecting-assad/2017/04/05/28179558-1a0c-11e7-bcc2-7d1a0973e7b2_story.html?utm_term=.208727bf715e

Putin couldn't give a 4x what the world thinks of him and won't easily back down from his vantage point.

Don't forget that the existing sanctions levied on him and (mostly) his people as a result of his marauding, didn't stop him in his tracks.

The fact that Asad chemically attacked his people in 2013 with no further action from the watching world, won't go unnoticed either.

That's not to say that the rhetoric emanating from Trump, won't create a slightly more uncomfortable situation for Putin than the largely pacifistic Obama ever did.

The diff now is that Trump has indicated tonight that he is going to do 'something' He's built his advance to President on keeping his promises, whether he gets blocked from doing it or not. I will be utterly utterly amazed if plans are not being drawn up now with Pootin to get rid of Basher... And what i suggested helps both powers to keep face vantage point or not..

Assad's day's are numbered.

We need to send Tim Farron over there sharpish to sort it out.

Preferably on top of a missile

Did Donald not announce 'Safe Zones ' the other day as his policy in the area, ?
Obama and Hilary caused this whole Arab Spring and ISIS crisis.
Donald trying to clean up the mess

He said tonight he's "Changed his mind about Basher" Which could lead to changes everywhere..

Maybe G2D. I haven't particularly been keeping pace with affairs today. You can be sure Putin will negotiate a position where he comes up smelling of daffodils.

Of course he will. The mans a genius whether ye love or hate him. But Sir Donald likes flowers as well... A compromise will be reached.. I sense a distinct change of track because of those horrendous pictures of the gassing. Now i know Basher has done this before but the world is changing. Hopefully slightly for the better..

How certain is it that Assad is responsible for the gas attack? Didn't Russia claim it was the jihadi rebels?

Subterfuge & subterfuge..

The ones that matter know who did it.

we'll leave and you can do wtf ye want with the place?

that's the last thing the US wants

You have to feel for the leaders in the middle east. They kill their own people they are in trouble. They kill in other countries they are in trouble. Americans kill both at home and abroad but they never get in trouble. We help Americans in their killing abroad we are never in truoble. In fact if someone accuses us of causing trouble, its them who are in trouble. Bottomline, there has to be war in the middle east. Its the most lucrative business in the world.

With all due respect, detraveller; that is a stupid post..

Oh no. Which part? Or you mean the whole of it?

Thought it was a good post, apart from feeling sorry for the leaders in the middle east. At the moment their is little proof who committed the crimes in syria but the west has already sentenced someone for the crime.

I was just thinking how we killed 200 the other day(at least German forces were involved because it was on the media here) but Assad kills 70 odd and its apparently a crime. Thats what i mean. He's killing his own people. And that's wrong. But we kill their's because we don't want them to be killed by Assad.

I wouldn't trust the 'west' to p1ss straight let alone act in the interest of others.
There are no good guys, just differing versions of opportunists with different visions of control.

Freedom is an illusion, a trick of the mind.
All the politicians in the west subscribe to differing degrees to machiavellianism.
You cannot seak the shaping of virtue from those who worship money.

Yep, the yanks killed over 50 people the other day with one of their airstrikes but it doesnt even reack uk media.

The bbc quoted the Syrian Observatory for human rights on their news as a source the other day, this group is based in Coventry and never set foot in Syria.

Oh no. Which part? Or you mean the whole of it?


Well ye didn't need the 1st line..

The difference is, at the risk of repeating myself, is the use of gas and other despicable chemicals. Plus showing those images of children. It gives the big bad west a reason to act. My opinion is they will. With or without the UN. We shall see..

The U.S.,Europe, the Turks, Saudis and Qataris only got involved in regime change when Assad blocked the Qatari gas pipeline. They're not going to go through all this to have a new regime which is allied to the Russians or Iran and won't allow their pipeline through.

Rootin' tootin' pootin' shootin'
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The 2 below are very shy.....


zorrostrikes

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they're saying they might go in now to Gub Assad as he's used da gas. they have their valid excuse. It's like a cowboy film were they only seek revenge after a heinous act by the villain. So that they are justified.


dave1357

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Trump's people will as we speak be telling Pootin that they will drop Ukraine sanctions if he cooperates in removing Assad.  This is such a perfect scenario for both of them, that it makes it almost certain that the gas attack was indeed a false flag.
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59 Tomahawk missiles fired into Syrian air base on orders of Sir Donald.

Come on ninnywhingers; where are ya all?

ye batting for the wrong team for once g2d,detravel is spot on imo about wars in the middle east

Doesn't matter what my thoughts are terry. It's what i said would happen..

Oh aye, before it happened..

yep get rid of the government and let isis take over,what a shower of sh1t

Easier to mash then then..


By the government ye mean the murdering bastards that Basher allows to run riot?

Ye daft twot..

is it them or American paid henchmen? takes a lot to kill children g2d

Do ye know what; you can't keep blaming the Americans for everything. BASHER gassed them, he's done it before and it was Russia who reeled him in last time. Pootin will not be happy with Basher one iota..

see the point is what did "basher" have to gain by gassing his own people?? please explain as it makes no sense

Hard to explain a psychopath tbph. But you're making the mistake of listening to libtards view on this. Why did Hitler attack Russia in winter? Some despots make no sense whatsoever.

Maybe Basher just fancied watching kids choke to death, he hasn't seen it for a while..

and as the man said earlier,the rich and powerful drink fine wine to celebrate as the likes of you and me discuss the rights and wrongs

Btw the Gruniad would have you believe that it's Russias fault..

Now i wonder why.

hitler was bonkers,he really did **** up thank GOD

Terry; Syria has contantly kept it's foot on it's own peeps neck! It's what despots do. You support me or i will trample you underfoot and eliminate you.

It could also be a carefully calculated strategy of escalating attacks against civilians. Once again that' what Basher does. he started in 2012 with artillary strikes against his own peeps then he got choppers to strafe them and bomb then..

wasn't Syria on America"s list along with some others in 2000?

List of what mucker?

It's hard to know who or what to believe these days! The only thing you can rely on is nobodies like us will be the last to know the truth.

if you don't know you need to look it up, vv important that you do

It is worrying to see America and Russia square off like this - not a time to blink first I suppose - but scary for everyone all the same.

I do know Terry.

There is radar of 2 Syrian jets within 9 mins dropping bombs at the same time the gas was released. Maybe they're lying and it was the Brits...

Subterfuge. Read this fred from the beginning. Whatever nonsense comes out of the gobs of civil servants in the next few days take not a blind bit of notice. Pootin and Trump got together over this air strike.

Russia should force Assad out - give him sanctuary in Moscow to speed his departure - and replace him with somebody more acceptable to the west. Calm things down a bit and Putin and Trump both save face.