Shame there is no bed shortage for terrorists

why did they save him?

So we can spend a million or two on lawyers to defend him imo.

Relax guys, he's only taking up a chiller

Hopefully preserved in dripping.

Saddo - I think you mean Lard.

I wish the murderers in these despicable incidents did not keep getting reported among the number of people dead. It might be factually accurate, but they do not deserve to be placed on any sort of equal footing with the innocent victims.

I'd rather the reports are factually accurate.

Dead eh- Then stick him in a draw with a dead pig around his neck!

I'm not arguing it is factually accurate, but so would reporting the victims and murderers deaths separately. I find it offensive he is grouped together with his victims.

Offensive

Ffs it's a couple of hours after the people have died. They can hardly start saying 3 victims are dead and one suspect/assailant is until they are sure of exactly what happened and say for definite no one else injured or dead was acting with him.

I don't see why it cannot be reported that "3 victims have died" and report about the fate of the murderer or murderers separately. I, personally, find it offensive that the murderers are grouped with their victims - don't see why that should sound so unusual, I bet I'm not the only one who feels the same. I always think it's wrong when they quite the 911 deaths too as their include the 19 terrorists in the total. It's just not appropriate IMO.

Because presumably if it turns out one of the "victims" is linked to the other guy and they find out was on a watchlist etc. etc. you would also get your knickers in a twist that they'd called him a victim.

Spot on mada..shrewd dude not quite living up to his username

No I wouldn't, that would be an honest mistake. One which could just be corrected and move on.

According to Islam, if you die fighting for God, you live forever. If the media didn't include him in the number of dead, you guys will be p1ssed even more

And I don't think its a matter to get worried about.

I am not arguing the murderers should not be reported as dead, merely that it is not appropriate to include them on the same list as the victims IMO.

No it wouldn't be an honest mistake it would most likely have been a guess given the fact that these people may have only been dead less than an hour. Just as well the police wait until the facts are clear though before making such guesses even if it does mean that some people get offended.

Mar 22, 2017 -- 1:41PM, Torquemada wrote:

I am not arguing the murderers should not be reported as dead, merely that it is not appropriate to include them on the same list as the victims IMO.

So you are assuming the victims are innocent? That assumption may be wrong which is why police include everyone in the dead, instead of calling one of them the attacker.

If an Iraqi guy blew up Blair or Bush, he'd be p1ssed to be included in the dead with his victims as well. In that case I have to agree with you.

Yes, I freely admit that I am assuming that the 3 victims are innocent. I think it is a perfectly reasonable assumption to make. If this turns out to be wrong I think it would be fair to describe it as an honest mistake and correct it for later reports. I am just airing my personal view that it is offensive and inappropriate to include a murderer and the same list as their victims. Factually correct I do not deny, but inappropriate IMO.

I agree with torq,

Sickens me to hear the top cop say sadly 4 people have lost their lives,

Much prefer to hear sadly 3 people have lost their lives and the attacker was also killed by police in this attack.

Actually if you look at the muslim countries who are fighting these bombers and their supporters, you will note they call their own casualties as 'martyrs' and the terrorists as 'dead' in their reporting. They don't include their own dead in the total deaths for the same reason you are saying.

lets be honest if the security forces could have one of those 4 people to be still alive ,we all no secretly who,d they prefer

there is hardly gonna be a 3 month waiting list for people with gunshot wounds

"I am not arguing the murderers should not be reported as dead, merely that it is not appropriate to include them on the same list as the victims IMO."

I agree with you, Torquemada.

I agree with Makybe_Diva.

Much prefer to hear sadly 3 people have lost their lives and the attacker was also killed by police in this attack.

Yes, this would be a much better way of reporting it.

Authorities desperate to be seen as inclusive, whatever the circumstances.

senior copper said they were 'reaching out to the communities'   - I think this is how far we have gone down the jolly old sh!tter.

you'd prefer lynchings, no doubt

I've seen the chap in question preaching his hatred, I wouldn't be against it in his case.