Farage went first Cameron went second ( the advantageous one )
Farage was the only person on the Leave side who could beat Cameron on the subject of the EU.
Farage debated with Cameron on TVFarage went firstCameron went second ( the advantageous one )Farage was the only person on the Leave side who could beat Cameron on the subject of the EU.
He's a youtube star, that's it, 4 million votes last election for a one policy party, immigration=the Eu.
Another 13 million voted to leave mostly because of immigration, but they wasn't voting for Farage this time, it was led by the Tory toffs. Nigel was a peripheral figure in the end.
He's a youtube star, that's it, 4 million votes last election for a one policy party, immigration=the Eu.Another 13 million voted to leave mostly because of immigration, but they wasn't voting for Farage this time, it was led by the Tory toffs. Nigel
Vote Leave was a cross party Westminster campaign group with a Labour chairwoman. Gisela Stuart was there to hold the hand of Boris.
It was not a GE so your reference to 4million votes is irrelevant.
Farage is the person who is rightfully being thanked by Leave voters, they include Tories and those Labour voters who realise his work was imperative to getting the referendum and being the voice of Brexit for 20 years.
You seem confused scandy.Vote Leave was a cross party Westminster campaign group with a Labour chairwoman. Gisela Stuart was there to hold the hand of Boris.It was not a GE so your reference to 4million votes is irrelevant.Farage is the person who is
Not confused, I'm talking about the most recognisabel faces and voices of the official campaign not chairwomen who the public haven't generally got a clue about, it was Boris and Gove leading the way.
The 4 million votes is relevant, because those 4 million people voted for UKIP based on one single policy, immigration, being out of the EU. And Brexit was won largely based on Anti immigration sentiment....an extra 13 million people voted for it.
Farage is responisble for getting the Vote, but getting Brexit over the line wasn't down to him, it was in spite of him.
Not confused, I'm talking about the most recognisabel faces and voices of the official campaign not chairwomen who the public haven't generally got a clue about, it was Boris and Gove leading the way.The 4 million votes is relevant, because those 4 m
Immigration isn't UKIP's single policy for leaving the EU. You need to do your homework on Farage's speeches at the EU meetings.
From the time of the Maastricht Treaty to the 2004 enlargement immigration was no issue, yet he was still campaigning his anti EU stance.
You have been conditioned by the liberal media scandy.
Immigration isn't UKIP's single policy for leaving the EU.You need to do your homework on Farage's speeches at the EU meetings.From the time of the Maastricht Treaty to the 2004 enlargement immigration was no issue, yet he was still campaigning his a
I never voted for UKIP in the last GE but i class Farage as the figure head of the entire Leave campaign. Most people realised Boris was an opportunistic pirate.
4 million voted for UKIP but another 10 million regard Farage the figurehead of that Leave movement.>
The British are clued up scandy.
Just to addI never voted for UKIP in the last GE but i class Farage as the figure head of the entire Leave campaign.Most people realised Boris was an opportunistic pirate.4 million voted for UKIP but another 10 million regard Farage the figurehead of
And people seem to have forgotten he was a Tory member brave enough to break rank and fight for his cause. Immigration was not an issue for 10 years of his campaign until 2004.
The media never report on this do they?
Without a doubt akaAnd people seem to have forgotten he was a Tory member brave enough to break rank and fight for his cause.Immigration was not an issue for 10 years of his campaign until 2004.The media never report on this do they?
he drove it for years, even if somebody else nudged it over the line, and though he was funded by others it was his efforts , image, and words that brought it into the public eye, and into camerons manefesto,
i put farage as figurehead toohe drove it for years, even if somebody else nudged it over the line, andthough he was funded by others it was his efforts , image, and words that broughtit into the public eye, and into camerons manefesto,
NF fought his fight to bring the obscenities of the EU into the public domain whilst having to stave off the scurrilous claims from the majority of the media of being a racist. Very few politicians in history have been able to stand up to the pressure he was under without wilting or softening their stance. Nigel stood firm.
NF fought his fight to bring the obscenities of the EU into the public domain whilst having to stave off the scurrilous claims from the majority of the media of being a racist.Very few politicians in history have been able to stand up to the pressure
The Leopard Seriously flawed judgement where chump is concerned.... Sold his soul for a few bucks
He openly criticised Trump on some of the stuff he had said. Struggling to understand the second part on selling his soul. In what way and who paid the bucks?
The Leopard Seriously flawed judgement where chump is concerned.... Sold his soul for a few bucks He openly criticised Trump on some of the stuff he had said. Struggling to understand the second part on selling his soul. In what way and who paid the
You have been conditioned by the liberal media scandy.
Listen to and read all media outlets including the right wing press and come to a conclusion, but could just as easily say you have been conditioned by the right leaning press. Farage may have drove it for years, but if he was the face and voice of the official leave campaign they would have lost, he is too much of a divisor. His rabble rousing can only appeal to a certain amount of people. Mainstream politicians like Boris in the end was more important.
You have been conditioned by the liberal media scandy. Listen to and read all media outlets including the right wing press and come to a conclusion, but could just as easily say you have been conditioned by the right leaning press. Farage may have dr
His campaign aided by parts of the press, had already changed people's perceptions of the EU long before the referendum.
The official leave campaign was a very feeble affair in comparison to the torrent of negativity coming from the remain side should we decide to leave.
The terminal damage to the image of our membership in the EU, had already been done by Farage an co before the campaign had started. Which is why so many of the the seeds of project fear fell mainly on stony ground.
Disagree s_h.Farage was the voice of Brexit.His campaign aided by parts of the press, had already changed people's perceptions of the EU long before the referendum.The official leave campaign was a very feeble affair in comparison to the torrent of n
Just watched it. Not your usual Morgan style confess and blubber fest. He was very evasive about his marital and family life which leads you to suspect that all is not well there, but I can't blame him for putting up a wall in the face of Morgan's pseudo-sleazy line of questioning. Seems to me like he's sacrificed a lot to rescue his country. He might not be everyones cup of tea, but the man is brave, you have to give him that.
Just watched it. Not your usual Morgan style confess and blubber fest. He was very evasive about his marital and family life which leads you to suspect that all is not well there, but I can't blame him for putting up a wall in the face of Morgan's ps
Without Nigel Farage Britain would not have been granted an IN or OUT referendum, it is that simple. His perseverance over the last twenty-odd years, usually in the face of constant abuse from mainstream media and every other political party, has been quite extraordinary. Such dogged stamina counts for little on its own, of course, but Farage backed it up with exemplary debating skills, something which his adversaries were never able to match.
I believe this country owes Nigel Farage a great debt.
Without Nigel Farage Britain would not have been granted an IN or OUT referendum, it is that simple. His perseverance over the last twenty-odd years, usually in the face of constant abuse from mainstream media and every other political party, has be
I'm still baffled by why no press wants to report about the EU and the money paid to employees and the contracts they have to sign for silence. Why dont the press report about the auditing of the EU finances ?
Its all rather strange, how could anyone be a journalist and only report one side.
I'm still baffled by why no press wants to report about the EU and the money paid to employees and the contracts they have to sign for silence. Why dont the press report about the auditing of the EU finances ?Its all rather strange, how could anyone
Farage the best orator of his time. The bravest politician of his time. A man who sacrificed much for his principles.
I always liked him,to me a quintessential English gent with a touch of the common man.
Having watched the programme I like him even more. His huge interest in the Great War is shared by me and explains his patriotism. When I'm in England I stop at all those magnificent War Memorials and read the names,I admire their sacrifice,I admire the sacrifice of their families and get the feeling that's who Nigel Farage has been fighting for for over thirty years.
Farage the best orator of his time.The bravest politician of his time.A man who sacrificed much for his principles.I always liked him,to me a quintessential English gent with a touch of the common man.Having watched the programme I like him even more
Farage forced the referendum; a combination of dreadful and misguided campaigning from Will Straw's rabble, along with Cameron's team, combined with Cummings' handling of the Leave campaign were probably far more instrumental than anything UKIP and Banks did who were largely preaching to the converted. Focus group work showed that the vacillating middle ground abhorred Farage and he needed to be kept as far away from the debates as possible to win their support.
He speaks very well, and I imagine that's why Trump invited him to dinner last night at short notice after he killed it at the CPAC. The public speaking in his camp is woeful, and he's particularly bad; his hyperbole is wearing very thin, and only the morons can probably continue to stomach it. Farage's narrative based speeches resonate well, and no doubt meet with a huge stamp of approval from Bannon.
Farage forced the referendum; a combination of dreadful and misguided campaigning from Will Straw's rabble, along with Cameron's team, combined with Cummings' handling of the Leave campaign were probably far more instrumental than anything UKIP and B
scandanavian_haven The Leopard, they would have because they wouldn't have had a choice.....National Service. I think you mean conscription. FYI there were as many volunteers fought for the UK as there were conscripts.
The Leopard We should have let Germany take over France Yes that would have great and made it so much easier for them to then attack us.
Thank goodness we had people like them willing to fight for the freedom of both ourselves and other countries. Try to show some respect.
scandanavian_haven The Leopard, they would have because they wouldn't have had a choice.....National Service.I think you mean conscription. FYI there were as many volunteers fought for the UK as there were conscripts.The Leopard We should have let Ge
No you don't,you and The Leopard sneer at their sacrifice in the Great War. You are a regular defender of those peace loving gentlemen that burn poppies.
You and your fellow travellers who hate your own history fail to realise that all classes suffered losses in that war.
No you don't,you and The Leopard sneer at their sacrifice in the Great War.You are a regular defender of those peace loving gentlemen that burn poppies.You and your fellow travellers who hate your own history fail to realise that all classes suffered
Don't give them pair an inch, they don't deserve it. The Leopard's comments are particularly appalling, even by his wretched standards. Can you credit he thinks we should not have come to France's aid and just let Germany conquer them! His kind must never be allowed to gain power in our country.
Well said WMFB.Don't give them pair an inch, they don't deserve it. The Leopard's comments are particularly appalling, even by his wretched standards. Can you credit he thinks we should not have come to France's aid and just let Germany conquer them!
wildmanfromborneo 26 Feb 17 23:27 Joined: 30 Nov 10 | Topic/replies: 21,197 | Blogger: wildmanfromborneo's blog No you don't,you and The Leopard sneer at their sacrifice in the Great War. You are a regular defender of those peace loving gentlemen that burn poppies.
You and your fellow travellers who hate your own history fail to realise that all classes suffered losses in that war.
I shouldn't dignify the likes of wildclcownfromborneo with an answer but I want to set him a challenge which you will fail, go and find a post that I have made on this forum where I have sneered at their sacrifice, or even remotely close to it, and don't chose the last one because you would just embarass yourself.
And then find me my posts where I have regularly defended people who burn poppies.
Otherwise you are just making stuff up which means whatever you post from now would carry even less credibility than it did already, if that was possible.
wildmanfromborneo26 Feb 17 23:27Joined: 30 Nov 10| Topic/replies: 21,197 | Blogger: wildmanfromborneo's blogNo you don't,you and The Leopard sneer at their sacrifice in the Great War.You are a regular defender of those peace loving gentlemen that bur