Sadly without Nigel Farage the party is a busted flush.Just came back from walking the dog and couldn't help but tune into the O'Brien show and for once he is right.UKIP should have left the stage and rode off into the sunset after the referendum;about that there is no doubt.
Nuttall has zero personality. Whatever possessed me into putting my hard earned on the fella, it must have been a moment of sheer madness.As "JOB" correctly pointed out Nigel was nowhere near Stoke during this by election and perhaps if he had been there it might well have been a different result.In fact had a local UKIP canditate been put forward then i'm fairly sure UKIP would have been successful in Stoke. Nuttall had no resonance with the area and it was a gross error on his behalf to stand.
So there we have it..UKIP will no longer be getting my vote.Controlling our borders was the main reason i voted for the party in the first instance but May has picked up the baton(hopefully)and the Tory's are now the only party remaining where i can wear my hat.Still love the passion that Mr Farage exudes and i will always be one of his biggest supporters but as far as UKIP is concerned i have handed in my notice.
lfc..I agree to a degree in what you say but in not gaining Stoke it really was a massive own goal. UKIP are a rudderless vessel and i can't see that changing anytime soon.No point in supporting a party that in your heart of hearts is going nowhere..not dissimilar to Labour
lfc..I agree to a degree in what you say but in not gaining Stoke it really was a massive own goal. UKIP are a rudderless vessel and i can't see that changing anytime soon.No point in supporting a party that in your heart of hearts is going nowhere..
brexit was not about voting for a party, it was about the issues. in this referendum, and in general elections people vote tribally, for the same party. the party they have always voted for, the party their parents voted for, it is very hard to change that.
brexit was not about voting for a party, it was about the issues.in this referendum, and in general elections people vote tribally, for the same party.the party they have always voted for, the party their parents voted for, it is very hard to change
As Farage said tonight on the interview with Morgan, UKIP basically has no reason to exist unless the referendum result is ignored by the mainstream parties.
If May and the tories take us out of the EU and actually finish what they have started, then UKIP is over as a political force. If, however, the referendum result is ignored, UKIP has to be around as a party so that they can be voted for. And when asked if he would come back, Nigel said (something like) if they do not deliver Brexit, never say never.
As Farage said tonight on the interview with Morgan, UKIP basically has no reason to exist unless the referendum result is ignored by the mainstream parties.If May and the tories take us out of the EU and actually finish what they have started, then
The reason Labour won at Stoke was because it's always been a safe Labour seat. And the right wing vote was split between UKIP and the Tories.
The op seams more interested in personalities than policies. In fact no one even mentions the other two main candidates and their parties in the Stoke by-election. Doesn't anybody give then any credit?
As for UKIP riding into the sunset like O'Brien suggests. Doesn't he realise they'll still have all those MPs in the EU Parliament for more than another two years until we final leave? Then there are all the hundreds of councils seats they hold.
O'Brien's job is to slag off any right-winger he sees on sight. That's his job on LBC, and on the BBC as well these days.
Because of that. I wouldn't pay much attention to what James O'Brien says at all.
He's long abandoned any pretence of fair play when commenting on political events.
The reason Labour won at Stoke was because it's always been a safe Labour seat.And the right wing vote was split between UKIP and the Tories.The op seams more interested in personalities than policies.In fact no one even mentions the other two main c
they are but it appears any votes they gain from disillusioned labour votes are now being offset by former ukip voters happy with may's hard brexit returning to the tories
they are but it appears any votes they gain from disillusioned labour votes are now being offset by former ukip voters happy with may's hard brexit returning to the tories