labour have won copeland and stoke and its all corbyns fault

Labour Trounce Shithouse Ukip Party in Stoke seat they have held for years

And may Lose a Seat they have held for years and see some sort of reason for Celebration

one word sums them up "Pathetic"

And this from a Life Long Labour Supporter

Work That Out

When the Labour party is victorious in any election they have overcome the combined vested interest od the Establishment , the financial institutions , the biased right wing press and their cheerleaders

Comrade what is the matter with you , you don't sound like you have much socialism in you

Labour supporters must get a set of blinkers issued to them when they first join up.

In Stoke and Whitehaven

Turn it in FFS

While cowards flee and Traitors sneer

Answer was to Anxious AK

Your doing the tories work for them Comrade

some ukippers dont seem best pleased

The working Mans Party are the Those that Fled  ,Left wing Fkin Luvvy Arsholes who do not Give 2 fux about this Country and the Descent People that live in it .

anxious
Your doing the tories work for them Comrade

Was that aimed at Jeremy?

Nonsense casemoney you've been reading the daily mail and the Murdoch garbage tto much

BTW I have laid the Tories at 1.18 Think that was Too Short  ..


Come on The Red Flag

Fair play to you Casemoney, you've stuck to your principles instead of blindly following the idiots over the precipice waving the flag. Even though we're on opposite sides of the political fence I respect that stance. Sheep like Anxious are just tribal and delusional.

Jeremy believes in saving the NHS and fighting for the low paid and the poor , whilst One Nation Theresa is more concerned about turning this country into a sweat shop zero hours economy

There you go case you've even got the tories praising you , what can be worse than that

Torque I,m middle of The road these Days .. I cant see me ever Voting Again

Unless there is a need for a Protest Vote ..

I HAVE NO PARTY

A bit like tony blair then

Some **** With a Laptop Prob overseeing the Counting Whitehaven

Despite all the Comms of it being Close the Market goes Downward

And Jeremy Corbyn.

Anx I have Jez 10 divisions above that Twxt 

Anyone know the latest odds on Copeland? Can't get them up on my phone. Cheers.

No Jeremy is the Leader of the Labour Party voted in by the membership , twice he has won

UKIP and Con Combined 10000 Lab 7000 ,Dear me

Yeah, I know, but Labour's not really a proper political party anymore is it?

Most of the Ukip vote is Labour in reality

That's the most lacklustre round of applause I've heard for a winning candidate ever! No applause at all would have been less embarrassing.

cope 1.14 con 8 lab

Torquemada you bitterness is embarrasing

LMAO. I'm not bitter about this result at all, it's the exact result I wanted you numpty.

anxious
Torquemada you bitterness is embarrasing

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No I don't mean about the result more about your nonsense about the applause

If you had the brains to debate the issues instead of waffling on about your nonsense  you might get a bit more respect

What was nonsense about it? I was merely stating the truth. You've heard worse for a winning candidate taking the stage have you? I strongly doubt it mate. It was embarrassing and to deny the fact is pointless.

If I had the brains? Don't make me laugh! I'm a Scouse scaffolder on an Internet forum not Henry fecking Kissinger. And I hate to be the one to tell you, mate, but you don't come across as the sharpest tool yourself.

A scouse tory that says it all

like P Nuttall  another loser

Does it really? Would you care to enlighten everyone why?

Your last two posts are examples of you debating the issues are they?

And I ain't no fan of Nuttall, so you're barking up the wrong tree with that tack.

I  think you would agree there aren't many tories in Liverpool ?

So?

Copeland lost. Humiliation. Pandora currently throwing up.

So why when the tories have caused so much damage to your city and the north of England , why do you support them

What do you expect me to do about it? Go on a march or throw a hissy fit like the loony left when they don't get their way?

Who is throwing a hissy fit and the so called looney left , your talking in riddles again

I'm a worker, I believe in hard graft and not getting something for nothing. And I ain't a hypocrite. Labour policies do nothing for me, my family... or my employers for that matter. The lunatic left are very good at spending other people's money.

Labour most definitely are not the party of the British working man. They might have been in my father's and grandfather's time, but not any more. Labour has sacrificed the working man on the alter of multiculturalism and political correctness.

course you are , the salt of the earth .

No what you are or have become is brainwashed by the system that divides the working class and tries to set people against each other , whilst the ruling class laugh of you and your Psuedo work ethic for which you receive a pittance

If delusional like you, Anxious, we're not so blinkered it might have a chance of recovery. With your kind still around, however, Labour is doomed.

My kind what do you know or mean about my kind ?

Scaffolders earn a pittance do they? You truly are clueless mate.

Do you still live in Liverpool ?

No, I live in Surrey and commute.

So there you go your now in stockbroker belt , my you've come a long way

Of course I live in Liverpool, what difference does that make? I work hard and get paid well for my labour. Certainly not a pittance. The trouble with your kind is your astonishing sense of self entitlement. I've got news for you, pal, the world owes you nothing. You need to get off your arse and make something of your life. Getting everything given to you on a plate ain't gonna happen. Sorry to be harsh, but somebody needs to point you in the right direction before it's too late.

Best wishes anyway. Time for bed.

Feb 23, 2017 -- 9:10PM, Torquemada wrote:

Labour most definitely are not the party of the British working man. They might have been in my father's and grandfather's time, but not any more. Labour has sacrificed the working man on the alter of multiculturalism and political correctness.

Probably the wrongest thing I've read on any forum, ever.

Shows the media is doing its job.

I lived in Liverpool for 5 years, there weren't many like you, Torquemada.
(and I don't mean working).

Wonder if there will be discussion on 'Crisis in UKIP' to the extent there would have been a 'UKIP Breakthrough!' narrative if they'd won Stoke?

Hope so, then maybe there might be some evaluation of this asinine support for Trump, their failure to focus on Brexit and delivering that and the cult of personality surrounding Farage and now Aaron Banks

UKIP just need to act more professionally and not score so many own goals.

Nuttall was so inept and gave so much ammunition to the opposition here its actually amazing their vote share rose.

they need to get the basics right to appeal to the masses, it can be a lot to do with appearances and tradition. In Britain people vote the way their parents voted before them, of course there are exceptions but this is true even today.

Salty or Sweet?

Behold at the time of harvest, the ears of corn did bring forth kernels which were dried and prepared for the Popper’s hand. And then it was that the Popper did take the kernels, all that did appear alike unto Him, and applied the oil and the heat.

And it came to pass that when the heat was on, some did explode with promise and did magnify themselves an hundred fold. And some did burst forth with whiteness which did both gladden the eye and satisfy the taste of the Popper. And likewise some did pop, but not too much. Behold, there were some that did lie there, and even through the Popper’s heat was alike unto all, some did just bask in the oil and keep everything that they had unto themselves.

And so it came to pass that those which had given of themselves did bring forth much joy and delight to many munchers. But those which kept of the warmth and did not bring forth were only cast into the pail and thought of with hardness and disgust.

And thus we see that in the beginning all appear alike, but when the heat is on, some come forth and give all, while others fail their purpose as chaff, so as to be discarded and forgotten.

Very apt I would say.

here's a policy winner


The New York Times‏ @nytimes
A Swedish town is proposing an hourlong paid break each week for municipal employees to go home and have sex

Feb 24, 2017 -- 4:40AM, xmoneyx wrote:

here's a policy winnerThe New York Times‏ @nytimesA Swedish town is proposing an hourlong paid break each week for municipal employees to go home and have sex

Fascists!!!

Telling us how we should spend our discretionary time!!

Socialist Worker!! Fight the fascist imposition of sh@g breaks!!

workers in Japan get a half day off today as part of a government initiative to reduce stress, what a beautuful country Japan is.

Fascinating read that exchange between anxious and torquemeda, just goes to show why the Labour party is doomed.Snide,spite and malice all in the name of saving the working classes who probably have more to fear from the well intentioned Momentum group.

Probably the wrongest thing I've read on any forum, ever.

Shows the media is doing its job.

I lived in Liverpool for 5 years, there weren't many like you, Torquemada.
(and I don't mean working).



He often posts out and out rubbish, and declares he's speaking for the majority, lol.

Feb 24, 2017 -- 9:40AM, treetop wrote:

Fascinating read that exchange between anxious and torquemeda, just goes to show why the Labour party is doomed.Snide,spite and malice all in the name of saving the working classes who probably have more to fear from the well intentioned Momentum group.

Im not sure im with you treetop there was no snide , spite or malice from my side if anything it was himself showing his contempt for others

LABOUR THE TRAITOR PARTY TO THE BRITISH PEOPLE IS FINNISH!

Traitors more likely as Jeremy said that if you really love your country you wouldn't try to divide it like the Tories have done since the year dot.

Anx, I can often sympathise with your values,who wouldn't want the poor to get more,who wouldn't want the rich to get their comeuppance now and again and who wouldn't want the workingclass to aspire for more ? I felt the same way when I was 21 years old but experience tells me it doesn't work out that way and I am probably right wing now as I believe a healthy economy offers the poorest and the working class more opportunity to improve their lot. When I, and those similar to me, get tarred with words like traitor to the working class it irritates me immensely and does more damage than the accusers realise,when I hear tories being accusd of being lowlife for holding a different opinion about how to improve our lives I fear those people far more than any tory government.
I benfited from a grammar school and nearly 33% of my class were from what might be called sink estates now,whatever the sentiments are I am adamant that grammars offer the working class more social mobility and opportunity than comprehensives which so many Labour ministers strangely avoid.We can disagree but once we hurl personal insults at each other it gets out of hand and the arguments are lost,the groups around Corbyn are killing Labour despite their supposed caring values.

Tree I have read on another thread on politics where you have a go at Tristham Hunt for being a greedy hypocrite and now your saying that Jeremy is killing the Labour Party, come on now what do you want would you prefer the Blairites back or would you prefer a Socialist to be the leader of a left wing party, as regards your coments about education I failed my 11 plus and I ended up at a comprehensive school which was far below the standards of the grammar schools , does a child of 11 deserve that kind of unjust system, yes I don't blame people buying education for their children because in this elitist win at all costs system money talks and is number one.

The working class simply don't even get equality of opportunity that's where the system is wrong , in health , education and many other areas the low paid and the poor are simply forgotten and its getting worse no weasel words from Theresa May can change that.

anxious
Traitors more likely as Jeremy said that if you really love your country you wouldn't try to divide it like the Tories have done since the year dot.

Is this the same Jeremy who openly supports a terrorist group who tried to destroy the UK with a bombing campaign?

Aka tell me do you deny that successive  British governments  were speaking to the IRA since the 70s , I don't think Jeremy in any way supported terrorism he may have supported a United Ireland which is different

Big difference between having talks and supporting which Jeremy certainly does.

You believe what you want Aka but I don't think Jeremy supported the IRA I think like many others he tried to bring peace , Sinn Fein are a Socialist party so I think that was probably what attracted some Labour mps

Jeremy and McDonnell both openly supported the ira.
#McDonnell lied about it on QT saying they made comments to help the peace process.
If so why were they opposed to the GF agreement.
Should never be near the Labour party yet alone in the positions they have.

I think it was the anglo- Irish agreement of 1985 that Jeremy disagreed with

With regards Jeremy Corbyn and John McDonnell it's not merely a case of condemning a politician because one doesn't happen to like their social, economic or fiscal policies.

In McDonnell we're talking about a man who advocated the murder of British citizens, honouring those who actually committed such heinous acts of brutality, and somebody who counts IRA killers amongst his circle of friends.  It is important to note that he does not deny these despicable truths about his past.  A few grovelling apologies on television, however, are simply not good enough in this instance; the man is running for high office in a country whose people he once opined "only heeded to bullets and bombs."  The very fact that this dangerous individual is permitted to be shadow chancellor brings shame to all of us, not just the Labour Party. 

Corbyn's historical alliances, although not quite as abhorrent as his chosen deputy, are also worthy of contempt; his links with Hezbollah, Hamas and the IRA all being widely known.  If we had any sense neither man should be permitted within ten miles of the Houses of Parliament, much less prominent members of Her Majesty's opposition.  Torquemada and Akabula's earlier appraisals on this thread were correct: Labour are evidently shambolic and no longer the party best representing British workers.  I, unlike many right wingers, take no delight in this fact whatsoever.  Our country desperately needs a trustworthy, credible and competent alternative to the incumbent government, an impossible scenario with the likes of Corbyn, McDonnell and Abbott at the helm.

Yes you want a party just like the tories .

On the contrary, Anxious.  Read my post again, sir, I desire "a trustworthy, credible and competent alternative to the incumbent government" not simply a copy.  A Labour Party not led by terrorist sympathisers would be a good start.

Tremendous post Poker..one of the best i have read on here for a long time.

Corbyn's the only Labour guy left - the rest are career people. Pod people.
eventually their brainwaves will sync up and Corbyn will be one of them.

one of them. one of them. one of them.

Excellent post PM. And typical response from Anxious in trying to spin your words into the exact opposite of what you wrote. Is it any wonder the likes of him and SH are so often ridiculed on here for spouting their delusional nonsense!

The loony lefties like Anxious, Facts, SH and Studyform are literally blind to the truth and incapable of seeing past their own blinkered delusions. Pitiable really.

Funny moment on that Gary Barlow thing tonight to find a new band, wife watched and asked her what she was laughing at.
peter Kay a guest judge told a band to look behind them if they wanted to be successful.
They did and it was scaffolding as part of the scenery.
Scaffolding is where the money's at he told them
Hope anxious watched

He would have accused Kay of being a Murdoch spiv by peddling the lie that scaffolders are well paid! According to Anxious we work for s pittance!

His nurses, Studyform and Scandinavian Haven, would then come along to insult me before leading Anxious back to bed.

Nurse! Nurse! Anxious is out of bed again.

Excellent post PM. And typical response from Anxious in trying to spin your words into the exact opposite of what you wrote. Is it any wonder the likes of him and SH are so often ridiculed on here for spouting their delusional nonsense! Plain



Where and when did this riducule take take place please, I must of missed that

You and your huge intimidating of chit chat pensioners, twizzledee and King akabula, keep it coming please, it's amusing to see you throwing so many wobblers, you'd almost think a chord hadn't been struck

army of chit chat pensioners

Anxious, Studyform and Scandinavian Haven are the three geese in a flock. Anxious has flown east, Studyform has flown west, and you can guess where Scandinavian Haven has gone.

What a numpty. He even makes Breedingmad and Porcupine look relatively sane!

Anx,for the record I concur with your opinion about Tristram Hunt,quite disgraceful running away like that. That doesn't imply I wish the rest of the Labour party to be right wingers either,though. It would be nice for people who stand on a moral platform for public office to stop shooting themselves in the foot.
As regards education,i do not see any easy solution but I am sure that comprehensives have been a step backwards for social mobility and meritocracy for the working class,again the sentiment is good but in practice it seems to fail,just my opinion.

Scandi is clueless, although to be fair to him he does excel at reporting peep so be careful.

akabula reports people all the time.

It is wonderful how you are all being played by the media and the establishment.  It is all about reinstalling the old steady two party system and to reintroduce the right wing of the labour party.

Not really natb.
I want a Labour party that appeals to the voter and takes back the votes it lost to the SNP.
Loads of peep won't vote for them whilst Corbyn is leader and O'Donnell and Abbott hold senior posts.
As it stands in the UK are you happy with only the one party being electable?