May refuses to answer if she knew about Trident test failure

Watched it ... Jeremy Paxman & Michael Howard moment.

She looked very uncomfortable, but the useless Marr only asked her 4 times.  Gravy trainer.

It's a bit silly as everybody is going to assume she did.
She might as well say yes and get brownie points for being honest.

if she admits it then she's in trouble she'll just have to keep taking the 5th until it goes away

Was this the new upgraded version being tested (that we spent 40 billion on) ?  Accurate to within a range of 10000 miles

only if the bloke holding it keeps his shoulder still,

Out of interest, where did the fookin thing end up.

Has Madagascar disappeared?

missile headed for trump towers

automatic renewal !

When missiles are being tested this happens often, always has done . It's nothing unusual and shouldn't even be news.

Another 60 billion for the arms trade , the way to stop a nuclear war is to make more weapons , yeah that sounds right

Shush they cant tell you if it went wrong , you are the ones they testing it for

I live near Birmingham airport and now after this news every time a plane goes over I duck.

Is it still up there somewhere.

If you don't test them, you can't find the fault, it's very simple. That's something the Royal Navy do every year and will always have to fish some back out of the North Sea and bring them back for investigation.
remember many years ago seeing them launch a missile and it disappeared up into the clouds. A short time later it reappeared and was travelling back towards the ship and crashed down into the sea in what seemed only a few feet away!

Apparently it was intended to go in Africa direction but ended up going towards America

If anybody believes the guff spawned out by One Nation Theresa and her gang they want their trident testing

so what.

FFS ....  should I keep ducking

Remember the shocked voices on board the naval ship when they saw the missile reappearing from the grey cloudy sky and heading straight towards theiit own ship which launched it. : )

a faulty capacitor had short circuited.

Sometimes they just sit there and just fizzle out -I am not joking.

Sounds like a lovely way to pass the day on

60 Billion value for your money

It was meant to skim across and above the rough North Sea waves, adjusting its height for the swell of the sea. A very beautiful and ingenious design..when it worked

The four new submarines each of 40 warheads , just one warhead has 8 times the capacity as the Missile that was dropped on Hiroshama

So that is 160 nuclear warheads and 4 Submarines

That wasn't reported either, it's not news.

missiles know where to go or maybe ruskies hacked the system for a laugh

The missile launch was being recorded on board the ship, when the missile reappeared heading towards the ship, and accelerating, you could see on the launch footage the camera starting to shake and a voice in a broad newcastle accent saying "no f@cking way man!! "
it's crashed into the sea as the screen footage went blank.

I would expect her to know. I wouldn't expect her to tell.

She's just trying to scare Trump before meeting him next week to discuss a trade deal it's fake news.

no longer a deterrent - it's now just bloody dangerous.
press a button and see if it'll do what it says?
maybe make our own missiles? with our guiding systems.

i have a rifle that fires to the left - useful for bank hostage situations?

It's like they are trying to be funny, with nuclear weapons.

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robots can be trusted... with fissionable materials.

can't get rid of them now. best thing is to build a defence system against them. America may already have a system.

We could buy a defence system from the US to defend us against errant Trident missiles.

Mmmm I think I'm gonna be a defence contractor ...  win-win

pointed sharp sticks, that is what we want.

To jab the contractors up der arss

the brief was to construct a missile that hits what you aim at?

we want to hit Russia? not Paris. although that could be okay too.

build a wall

Not particularly dangerous.
There is almost certainly a google app tracking the sub at all times, rendering Trident harmless.

Reading this reminded me of The Cruise Of The USS Codfish by Bob Newhart. If you have never heard it you should give it a whirl.

Who supplies the Trident system?

What they aren't telling you is this missile was aimed at Russia and would instead have devastated America had it
been a real missile...

Apparently the missile veered off in the direction of Disneyworld.

It seems strange that the failure wasn't reported  .. it's been four years since one was last tested and I would have thought that they would have launched another to ensure a pass was attained - if not two.

Isn't this what testing is for. Nothing to see now move on.

it reminds me of a bad but sad military action in the forties when the pilot of a gloucster gladiator fired the machine gun through the  gaps in the propeller but the timing was faulty and it cut the propeller off the airplane !

That was a classic .

People can laugh but if their was mistake it would be innocent people who would pay with lives and health , not that the glorifying war -mongerers would worry about that

Apparently 157 previous successful test?

These things aren't dumb shells, they are high tech, they go up, locate themslelves precisely using the stars, fine change trajectory, and come down where they want to go. They don't go off when they hit the ground, they go off at a set height to maximise effect.

If they aren't armed they'll hit the ground, and I'd think make a deep crater or at most go off at a very low yield.

I'd be very shocked, given any system is fallible, if they would arm if they thought they were totally off target!

What's the chances of that anxious?
Do you think they might have been getting tracked with a view to destroying if there was a danger of hat?

People can laugh but if their was mistake it would be innocent people who would pay with lives and health , not that the glorifying war -mongerers would worry about that

Totally true if we ever need to end up actually using nuclear weapon beyond their immense deterrent value we would never expect any innocent people to be included in the half a million people that get killed by it.

If we ever end up in the position of actually launching a nuke I doubt we are going to be saying to ourselves "nah, **** this, if it's accurate it won't kill any innocents but on the off chance it lands somewhere we don't want it to we might kill some innocent people as well".

99% success rate is not good enough if it can wipe out millions of people you have to make sure you kill the people
you intended to wipe out along with all the nature and ecosystem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGrR-7_OBpA

people you have to make sure you kill the people
you intended to wipe out along

It's a nuke not an AK47. You are going to kill people you didn't intend to kill anyway in the hope of our own survival.

If they are firing tridents games over anyway. HTH!

one mistake and you accidentally kill 8 million people - what do you want... perfection.

remember the old toy atom bombs dropped on Japan... aww, so cute.

now they have hydrogen bombs - beefy bombs. like dropping an elephant instead of a mouse.

Ain't seen what one of them can do yet? beefy bombs.... need to see it? don't you.....

Good job it wasnt a retaliation effort, typical tory government....Growing inequality, strike action failing NHS failing prison, austerity and now cant f ucking shoot straight

Could always go ask Kim how its done

As for May not answering, well that politics innit?
They cant tell you the truth they'd shrivel up like the witch in the wizard of Oz

I was told politics had changed!!

"She looked very uncomfortable, but the useless Marr only asked her 4 times."

To be fair to Marr he only gave up after 4 times when she kept dodging the question. And finally he said, "Prime Minister did you know ?" (and she started to waffle on again) Then he said, "OK, I'm not going to get an answer." 

By continually refusing to answer the question she gave the answer, she must have known, but she wasn't going to say so.

17 million for every test

they've shown every test from 1945 on YTUBE ?
WHY CAN'T THEY TALK ABOUT IT?

Tell Dell

Paxman asked Howard 19 times and Howard refused to reply.

Result was Howard went.

Marr should have asked her 19 times, IMO and referred her to the Paxman Howard Interview when she kept waffling.

We need to hold our lying politicians to account, not just let them off.  Yes she did look uncomfortable, yes she undoubtedly did know.  But nail her on live TV.
I would have done

Reporters have to walk a fine line between grilling for integrity sake and being in 'favour' with the interviewee for them to agree to be questioned.
We all would have continued to ask the question that wasnt answered in normal life, but this isnt normal life and those in power speak with forked tongue.

i can't reveal it - it's a top secret. I'm sorry my pension plan is a secret - i cannot divulge secrets. It's a secret that it is a secret. Stop talking to me.

let's look out the window and whistle now.

MoD still seem to be insisting that this particular test was a "success".  Missile testing must be the equivalent of modern day O-levels

If nothing else. The merest fact that someone called GoBallistic is posting on this thread makes it worthwhile.

Same old song from the tories hiding behind the - National Security motto , and people still believe in Parliamentary democracy and the Bogeyman.

Generally nearly all of them refuse to answer direct questions.  It never changes

Should never have been a problem here but May has created one by her usual priority of self-preservation. she's such a weasel.

it doesn't matter which lot they are mostly only there for one thing - for themselves

may would change her mind if it means gaining power

....and compared to thatcher in the same week

what idiot was that ?

Is it not feasible that the people can justifiably request to know if the money spent on the defence budget has been well spent or not?
We paid for it and it failed to work, perhaps it never did properly work and the contracts have just been a bread dipping exercises since they know its very very unlikely nuclear war will break out....and if it did and it failed then it would all be over anyway.

it would likely  be all over if it worked 

it's all moot now... i've completed my neutronium bomb. using radioactive cobalt salts in a matrix of distrompic alkaloids - my research is over and the prototype is ready - the blast radius will be thirty trillion miles.

zero hour is after i watch the startrek marathon on sky this week.

nationhood - you puny humans are so primitive.