Meat-free fiver

had to google this to make sure this was true

wtf is happening

right so someone in tesco puts £10 in the machines gets £8 change and its a meat one what happens

how can anyone work in shops when they are going to drill this into cashiers heads non meat and meat money FCK RIGHT OFF

What is seriously stupid about this is that the "whoever" sanctioned this product knowing how sensitive vegans, vegetarians and various other religious groups are to the use of animal products and their by-products. Particularly as there seems to be no evidence that tallow is a key requirement for banknotes.  Still good that it's Beef tallow otherwise we'd be able to blame it all on the Muslims.


nb - beef tallow makes the best "fried bread" although Brittania Dripping comes a close second.

Told you!! Mobo is already on "Halal Fivers" on another thread

YEAH!  as soon as he said 'you know what we need now or ..'  I was on it in a flash  ho ho!!

this is meant i guarantee it

they are up to something

time to wrap £5 notes round vegans door handles see what the charge is

Vegans (and I am not one, I class myself as a pescitarean with vegan tendencies) tend to follow the vegan lifestyle based on their wish not to have anything to do with animal cruelty, rather than health reasons. All those on here knocking the vegetarian/vegan population presumably have no sympathy for animals who suffer so badly to provide us with whatever parts of their bodies we utilise for whatever reason.

In other words unsympathetic ****.

Excellent sensible post by young Blackbarn at 22.05 btw.

it was meant to cause uproar

maggie on the tills in the bakery will be having to extend shop hours due to non meat till and meat till

The Bank of England says its supplier is working on "potential solutions" to the issue of animal fat in its new £5 notes.

The Bank said the problem "had only just come to light" and it was treating the concerns with "utmost seriousness".

Vegans have expressed anger because the new polymer fiver contains a small amount of tallow, which is derived from animal waste products.

The tallow is used in an early stage of the production process and is "an extremely small amount", the Bank said.

Petition has now topped over 100,000 signatures.

The tallow is used in an early stage of the production process and is "an extremely small amount", the Bank said.

lol, big, small makes no difference.

tallow
ˈtaləʊ/Submit
noun
1.
a hard fatty substance made from rendered animal fat, used (especially formerly) in making candles and soap.

no wonder they smell

Mobo - you were defo quick, but you still misunderstood the issue.

Kenny - Nice to be in violent agreement with you.  You'll be on Rabbit Stew and Roast Pheasant next Seriously though, I admire your principles, even though I don't like the taste

What a load of fuss about fook all, imo.

ha ha, I never liked rabbit stew when I ate non fish meat. The roast beef and Yorkshire pudding my mum fed me in the 50s/60s was excellent though. I miss it, but would never go back UNLESS I knew for certain the animal had had a good life. You never can tell these days, without investing a lot of time and effort, which would affect my pro gambler life, so for that reason I'm out.

crags, go fu k yourself, with respect.

crags - everything is a "fuss about fook all" if you don't give a toss about the subject matter.  For me, I dont care if they use roast and powdered spleens of juvenile badgers, BUT the point is why use something that is offensive to many, and more importantly fail to understand you are using it, and then forget to mention it.

Why all the anger, kenny?
I'm just giving my opinion. You sad lad.

crags, master of the misplaced one liner.

and again, what is it with you?

You must be jealous?

veggies shuldnt drive it pollutes the air and all these poor animals suffer

very small animals like cats/dogs/rats can't take the same kind of punishment to the body as humans

That's undoubtedly true, but how far can you take it? Vegans stop using conputers? That would be counter productive.

Stearic acid is used as a lubricant and plasticiser in many chemical products. Animal fat, which is a by-product of the meat industry, just happens to be the cheapest source. Banning useful outlets  for it isn't going to make it go away.

Foinavon - Agreed, but the question is how useful is the banknote outlet if it offends (for right or wrong!!) large numbers of people. Far better to use it for tallow, lard and dripping - proper candles, bubble and squeak, fried bread, lardy cake, etc etc.

Yes, I agree with you Blackbarn, they could use stearic acid derived from coconut oil for example.

This is another example, like Halal meat, of a vocal minority having a disproportionate influence on the majority who will all have to pay more to appease them. In this case, more taxpayers' money to meet a higher production cost for the banknotes.

Foinavon - agreed, not hard to find an alternate source.

Not sure I take your point re minorities and Halal though. I hold no brief for any minority, but think the bunny huggers have a case here in that this should have been spotted.  Re Halal, whatever you think, it does not add much cost to the process - My local slaughterhouse just gets a little man in!! - AND he's bloody fussy re protocol.

what idiot would invent something with such an ingredient in mind ? ffs  .

Sorry Blackbarn, I had gone to bed before your post.
A lot of people object to religious slaughter but have no choice as it's not usually practical for a slaughterhouse to have two production streams is it? The methods add nothing and pander to the irrational belief of a small minority.

It's strange that no-one noticed this issue from the planning stage, I wonder if Australia has addressed it? It may be that plastics manufacturers don't segregate the source of stearic acid and it might be difficult and costly to do so. They just buy the quality they need at the cheapest price. I've worked in the paint industry and I know that to be the case. Is the stearic acid in your fiver any different to that in your computer keypad?

How was your fruit harvest this year? I had plenty of apples but no quince or plums.

IT'S NOT A FKN PROBLEM  OK

there's a huge heap of issues affecting the ACTUAL life of people in this country instead of running around like headless chickens

FFS what a world we live. When designing a new bank note one of the main criteria should now be whether or not any of the ingredients offend someone. Unbelievable. How much of a sheltered, sanctimonious arse do you have to be to get offended by such trivial pish as the ingredients of the new 5 pound notes.

It won't be long before anywhere that serves food will have to have wee disinfectant machines for the notes they give out just in case theres some kind of organic trace on them that doesn't fit with the beliefs of some fragile minded half wit whose got nothing better to worry about than whether not his fiver has traces of meat in it.

Tallow greased cartridges,,,Sepoys....Indian Mutiny.......do they learn nothing from history?

It's called compassion, Shred Dude you fkin dick.

Anyone would think that these vegans are being forced to eat the fivers, just spend them and find something more important to make a fuss about, ffs.

And a Merry Christmas to all my readers

It's called compassion, Shred Dude you fkin dick.

It's compassionate to be offended by the fact that one of the ingredients used in the making of currency is a minute amount of animal waste?

I really wonder whether you even believe that ****. You come across as a 16 year old girl rebelling against her parents in her latest cause without even knowing herself what that cause is.

If they were slaughtering additional animals to make the notes, then I would object. They are not. Surely if an animal is slaughtered then we should make best possible use of every scrap of it and not waste anything.
The production of palm oil and coconut oil is environmentally damaging, often leading to the loss of forest essential to many animals including endangered primate species. Be careful what you wish for.

The production of palm oil and coconut oil is environmentally damaging, often leading to the loss of forest essential to many animals including endangered primate species. Be careful what you wish for.

Paper production is also harmful to the environment and the habitats of many animals. How many animals lives have been saved by moving to plastic based notes?

Vegetarian restaurant refusing to take them


Is that allowed

that's a hate crime

WHERE IS MY SAFE SPACE!!!