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Should be interesting even though a tragic tale.
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Report tobermory • November 7, 2016 8:54 PM GMT
Recall The Guardian , without waiting for any investigation , ran an editorial saying the murder showed how terrible white racism had become .

The kids who did it served about 4 years i think
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 8:58 PM GMT
Pain of Damilola Taylor's father after learning one of the boys he mentored went on to kill soldier Lee Rigby

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Report Dr Crippen • November 7, 2016 9:05 PM GMT
How much longer will they go on milking this?

27 years and they're still going on about it.

Is it right that this one killing should attract so much attention in comparison to all the other people who have been killed since?

Vested interests at work imo.
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:10 PM GMT
it was in 2000 only 16 years
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:11 PM GMT
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald

Did people in England ever here about this ?
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:12 PM GMT
Kriss Donald (2 July 1988 – 15 March 2004) was a Scottish 15-year-old white male who was kidnapped and murdered in Glasgow in 2004 by a gang of men of Pakistani origin, some of whom fled to Pakistan after the crime.[2][3][4][5] Daanish Zahid, Imran Shahid, Zeeshan Shahid, and Mohammed Faisal Mustaq were later found guilty of racially motivated murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.[2][3] A fifth participant in the crime was convicted of racially motivated violence and jailed for five years.
Report Dr Crippen • November 7, 2016 9:13 PM GMT
Yes you're right The Chaser. Thank you.
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:16 PM GMT
little lad would be 27 now though
Report saddo • November 7, 2016 9:19 PM GMT
I actually had never heard of that case, TheChaser, hardly surprising tho, don't expect a film.
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:28 PM GMT
Didn't think so saddo no one seems to know about it and that includes Scottish people

Never heard much after it happened
Report saddo • November 7, 2016 9:43 PM GMT
Taylor, Lawrence, awful stuff. Sounds like the Scottish lad might have suffered a lot more, also awful stuff. The media are strange aren't they.
Report fife • November 7, 2016 9:47 PM GMT
Might be to do with the fact that in the Kriss Donald case there was no police corruption and the suspects were caught and sent to prison saddo.
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:48 PM GMT
one of the killers id never out the papers for violence and fighting in jail though oh and taking selfies
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:48 PM GMT
is*
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:50 PM GMT
The BBC has been criticised by some viewers because the case featured on national news only three times and the first trial was later largely confined to regional Scottish bulletins including the verdict itself.

But still fife i think the UK deserved to know a bit more
Report TheChaser • November 7, 2016 9:51 PM GMT
Rotherham sickos never got much coverage either plenty cover ups
Report saddo • November 7, 2016 9:53 PM GMT
Sorry fife, not watching. I assumed the theme would be racism rather then police corruption.
Report fife • November 7, 2016 9:56 PM GMT
Generally a news item will probably get more coverage down South TheChaser though you may have a point about Rotherham.
Report mobo • November 7, 2016 9:58 PM GMT
I remember how the racist BNP etc were castigated when they demonstrated outside the courts in liverpool  - nothing to see there

until the bbc, politicians etc etc were dragged screaming into the new arena of muslim gangs mistreating young white girls
they just did not want to know. What a can of worms was opened but so many trying to hush it up.
Report rogerthebutler • November 8, 2016 8:21 AM GMT
Can we all agree murder is wrong, whoever commits it?

After that, watch or don't watch this programme as a piece of drama. You all have your own ideas on the political bias of the BBC and mainstream media in general and nothing anyone says or does will change that opinion.

I've never stuck needles in my eyes, or wired my testicles to a car battery either – where possible I try to avoid doing things that cause me pain or grief.

I suggest many on here do the same.
Report saddo • November 8, 2016 9:58 AM GMT
More intolerance and venom from the righteous one. If you dared ask Kriss Donald's family I guess they would say he was lovely, and the people who killed him are horrible. The only reason most of us haven't heard about is is because he was no use to the liberal cause. Shame on you for not caring about the lad.
Report saddo • November 8, 2016 10:36 AM GMT
Of course everyone remembers it, it rightly got wall to wall coverage, I was a card carrying Guardian reader at the time and wept about the boy. I have stated why I suspect Donald's death was little reported, what do you think the reason might have been?
Report mobo • November 8, 2016 11:26 AM GMT
you see the same over white cops / black civilians killed - the first gets little coverage the second - full coverage with riots

muslim and black crime many try to cover up ignore or play down - honkeys get a full spread
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 11:45 AM GMT
PorcupineorPineapple 08 Nov 16 10:32 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 1,683 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog
Where did I say I didn't care about him?


Someone acts the pr!ck, gets fronted up about it and then desperately tries to create the idea that they're the aggrieved one. God, some people are pathetic.


If you want to show your empathy for Mr Donald and his family then go and start a thread. On this here anonymous betting forum. It'll be a great gesture.


This is a thread about a TV documentary about a killing that a very large proportion of the country will remember but has been hijacked by the usual rabble with their "they started it", "yes that's bad, but have you seen this" sh!te. Utterly, utterly shameful.



I posted it not to see LOOK LOOK at this

I posted it to see if people on this thread knew of it

But since we are at it rememeber Ross Parker and the BBC coverage ? which they later admitted they should have covered more off ?


Peterborough fans will remember

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ross_Parker
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 11:47 AM GMT
Parker's murder is cited as an example of the lack of attention the media and society give to white victims of racist attacks compared with the coverage given to ethnic minorities. Organisations such as the BBC and some newspaper journalists later admitted to failing to cover the case sufficiently.[9][10] It is also suggested the case demonstrates how society has been forced to redefine racism so as to no longer exclude white victims.[11]




They all like admitting they didn't cover it enough afterwards don't they

The fxckers hid Saville for years though so f.all surprising TBH
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 11:51 AM GMT
2006 article


Nearly half of all victims of racially motivated murders in the last decade have been white, according to official figures released by the Home Office.
The data, released under Freedom of Information legislation, shows that between 1995 and 2004 there have been 58 murders where the police consider a racial element played a key part. Out of these, 24 have been where the murder victim was white.



I presume we will get all the white victims programmes in a sequence soon and see how they are coping 20 years on
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 11:52 AM GMT
Families coping 20 years on*
Report Dr Crippen • November 8, 2016 12:01 PM GMT
The default position for categorising these events is:

White on black = criminally racist.

Black on white = criminal.

For a black attack on a white to be termed racist the evidence has go to be pretty damning.

While if it's white on black the presence of a racial element is assumed, until lack of evidence proves otherwise.
Report mobo • November 8, 2016 12:06 PM GMT
I remember the Imam and Muslim shopkeeper (moderates both of them)   the police and 'community leaders' going around telling the 'community' to be calm etc
desperate to blame it on racists and both murders turn out to be radical muslims within their own community.  I have never forgotten the police reaction.
Report saddo • November 8, 2016 12:07 PM GMT
Inverted racism is alive and well, but the discussion about the failed soft approach to Islam will have to happen sometime.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:07 PM GMT
I read not long ago that young straight white men will have the hardest time as they have nothing moan about or something

gays march about to use womans toilets

other colours march for equal rights which they already have

the list goes on but it only takes a few young whites to get thinking this is a joke and the outbreak may begin and it could get nasty but that's what people in higher places want more than likely
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:07 PM GMT
'I wasn't posting to divert but watch now as I diarrohea out some more examples of "them" doing it to "us".' #gotourcountryback
Report saddo • November 8, 2016 12:09 PM GMT
You seem incapable of discussion tbf, keep insulting folk, it's all you have.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:12 PM GMT
mobo 08 Nov 16 12:06 Joined: 08 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 6,833 | Blogger: mobo's blog
I remember the Imam and Muslim shopkeeper (moderates both of them)   the police and 'community leaders' going around telling the 'community' to be calm etc
desperate to blame it on racists and both murders turn out to be radical muslims within their own community.  I have never forgotten the police reaction.


The Glasgow one?
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:14 PM GMT
Pineapple you don't even know what religion or nationality i am

I could be anything but you jump to conclusions just like the MSM
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:14 PM GMT
keep insulting folk, it's all you have.LaughLaughLaugh
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:15 PM GMT
Why should I care about your nationality? I'm judging you by your actions, not your passport, religion or skin colour.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
PorcupineorPineapple 08 Nov 16 12:07 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 1,684 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog
'I wasn't posting to divert but watch now as I diarrohea out some more examples of "them" doing it to "us".' #gotourcountryback



Why mention Country then you turd
Report saddo • November 8, 2016 12:17 PM GMT
Those smilies make it no less true PorP. I see you ignored a direct question again, really no sensible answer possible from your perspective was there.
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:19 PM GMT
It's a riff on the popular brexit hashtag. I can provide links if that'll help.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:23 PM GMT
So you voted Brexit then?

As i don't get why you put that at the end
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:30 PM GMT
no, and if you don't get it I'm really not sure I can help you to be honest.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:33 PM GMT
Well why did you put it ? Who was it aimed at if you never wanted it then why hash tag it
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:33 PM GMT
Avoiding questions again oh i get it now
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:34 PM GMT
PorcupineorPineapple 08 Nov 16 12:07 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 1,684 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog
'I wasn't posting to divert but watch now as I diarrohea out some more examples of "them" doing it to "us".' #gotourcountryback


You put it at the end i want to know why on this post? Simple question
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:37 PM GMT
Jesus, simple's the right description.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:39 PM GMT
Still no answer
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:41 PM GMT
PorcupineorPineapple 08 Nov 16 12:15 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 1,687 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog
Why should I care about your nationality? I'm judging you by your actions, not your passport, religion or skin colour.


PorcupineorPineapple 08 Nov 16 12:07 Joined: 03 Dec 15 | Topic/replies: 1,684 | Blogger: PorcupineorPineapple's blog
'I wasn't posting to divert but watch now as I diarrohea out some more examples of "them" doing it to "us".' #gotourcountryback



Who is THEM and who is US and why the hashtag you posted it not me you simpleton
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:43 PM GMT
Serious question: are you pretending to be so stupid that you don't get it so as to try to "trap" me with some response you've got lined up further down the road or is this for real. I'm a little uneasy at continuing to drag this out and mock the afflicted, for want of a better term.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:43 PM GMT
one post you say Why should I care about your nationality?

Another you have got THEM AND US and #gotourcountryback
Report Dr Crippen • November 8, 2016 12:44 PM GMT
Any position that favours one ethnic group over another ethnic group is racist.
That includes positive discrimination as well.

The courts are clearly racist in their judgments.

The BBC are clearly racist in their news coverage. That incident in Paris where the black person was stopped from getting on a train by football fans is all we need to know about the BBC. They ran that story for over a week.
Yet in the Midlands where a young white woman and her children were driven from their home by black people because they were white, never even made the national news.

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/racist-vandals-target-wi...
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:44 PM GMT
No you thought i voted BREXIT and you have fooked up as i didn't even vote you clown
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 12:48 PM GMT
Jesus, just seen my original posts have been deleted. Someone's been a busylittlebody.
Report TheChaser • November 8, 2016 12:49 PM GMT
Laugh what posts the ones where you answered i take it

How do you even delete posts ? you must know since you claim someone has been busy

So you do it yourself i take it ?
Report PorcupineorPineapple • November 8, 2016 1:00 PM GMT
Confused
Report saddo • November 8, 2016 2:50 PM GMT
Did they just remove your racist comments, or the stupid ones too?
Report casemoney • November 8, 2016 11:49 PM GMT
Just watched on I Player ,tragic waste ,sadly more than 200 youngsters killed since Sad
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