All these lefty remoaners seething at Trump

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We have a suprise in store for @TimKaine and @DonnaBrazile.

Farage said if he lost he wouldn't accept the vote if it was close ..nothing new there move along now..

1-6 Hilary 9-2 Donny  365

irony alive and well on the forum

the irony works from both sides

Remain 1-8 Brexit 13-2

I love irony too.

The only irony is that it was the brextits who said that the referendum would be r i g g e d and stfued about that pretty quickly after they won.

as with farage what the loons cant see is that even when trumps gone there,s still 45% of the people who despise clinton and probably about 65% who hate her,its just kicking the can down the rd for a few years,why clinton would want to be in charge of a country where 65,70% of the people think your a lying, thieving, scumbag only bill no,s,
as conrad black said on QT last night a small interconnected clique has run the usa for over 30 years

They did as much as they could to rig it before the vote, world leaders flying in to scare the little people.

And the little brained people didn't listen

Which is a very good thing imo.

Saddo I hope brexit works out favourably for the UK but if in a couple of years we are in the **** I hope you have the balls to admit the brexiteers were wrong and don't try and shift the blame like a lot of others no doubt will.

And when this country finally has an Islamic majority I hope your descendants thank you and the liberal agendists.

Unfortunately we will never know if it was or was not the correct path to follow
as things may or may not be that different had we stayed.

Oct 21, 2016 -- 6:03AM, saddo wrote:

And when this country finally has an Islamic majority I hope your descendants thank you and the liberal agendists.

Ah nice strawman arguement

Oct 21, 2016 -- 6:03AM, saddo wrote:

And when this country finally has an Islamic majority I hope your descendants thank you and the liberal agendists.

Isn't Brexit the exactly wrong choice if you're scared of islamisation? The vast majority of your muslims come from commonwealth nations. Haven't there been rumblings about intensifying relations with those commonwealth nations again after Brexit, including immigration?

I think there's at least somewhat of a chance you'll end up trading gloriously Christian Poles and Romanians for gloriously muslim people from Pakistan and Banghladesh. Which I think is perfectly fine, mind, but I really have to question a Brexit choice out of fear of islamisation of the society.

now now edy stop that logical argument nonsense, you know that doesn't work with brextits and trumpers.

Edy, I have lived in West Yorks all my life and there is a fair chance I know more Pakistanis/Kashmiris than many on here do. I think we have done well integrating round here for a long and we had a kind of British Islam. Blair changed all that by allowing radicals to openly preach hatred for us, he even had police stopping traffic so one of them could sit in the street and tell us we should die. This kind of behaviour could have been nipped in the bud but was left to go on in the name of tolerance, and any criticism was ignored or squashed.
I was dismayed that some of the home grown terrorists were from round here because I see this Isis stuff as an Arab problem, and all the Pakistanis I know dislike arabs quite strongly.

Pakistan was already sponsoring and training jihadists when ISIS leaders were still pooing into their diapers. Extremism isn't exclusive to arab nations or people.

Not sure about the dude telling everyone to die. That sounds like a hella weird application of liberal values in the UK. Contrary to popular far-right believe, being centre or centre-left does absolutely not mean tolerating crime and hate speech just because someone belong to a minority. Nor is included in freedom of speech.

The vote to leave will have very little effect on immigration , I doubt very much anybody will be sent home and at best it will control numbers in about 10 years

I think the difference is generational, which is a worry, all the ones I know will be over 40, the youngsters may be something else.

Georgia poll: Trump 44%, Clinton 42%, Johnson 9%

trump up 6 pts

I voted Brexit, because I think we need to control ALL immigration.

Otherwise our poor people cannot find work, and our young people have no future.


When I was younger I also opposed Commonwealth immigration I still do, because we are in recession.

For those who have skills we lack it is ok, but not mass unskilled immigration.


Mass immigration changes our society. A little immigration is always ok, gives us a bit of variety.

Blair was wrong on so many things

I hope that holds xmoneyx

Trump is better than that horrible Clinton.

rofl if trump doesn't win Georgia he will be heading for complete humiliation.  To win the whitehouse, he has to win that state PLUS all the battleground states PLUS a good few that are presently polling as Clinton.

dave, the more I hear landslide the closer I think it will be. Is there a market for the margin?

Georgia  Republicans 2-5 Democrats 7-4  365  still an open race there

there are dozens of markets - trump is fav to win georgia as he always has been. 

This is the margin market (electoral college votes)

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/#/politics/market/1.125797339

The close margins:

240-269 would be trump winning and 270-299 would be clinton winning

Or you could just accept your man is a dud and go with the favourite Clinton winning with 360 or more.

dave please, I wouldn't vote foe any politician. Last time I did it was Blair's first term and I am ashamed still.

Oct 21, 2016 -- 5:56AM, fife wrote:

Saddo I hope brexit works out favourably for the UK but if in a couple of years we are in the **** I hope you have the balls to admit the brexiteers were wrong and don't try and shift the blame like a lot of others no doubt will.

A couple of years!!!!?

I voted Brexit for the sake of my as yet unborn Grandchildren, trying to keep them free from the yoke of unelected, centralist foreign oppression.

That's why I can't take any Rmoander seriously with their 'oooooh the housing market' or 'Ooooooh the weak pound' or 'Oooh aren't you ashamed you've no plan' short-term bo110cks.

'A couple of years' my big fat sweaty hairy 'king of rock 'n roll' chuff!

trying to keep them free from the yoke of unelected, centralist foreign oppression.

Archbishop John Sentamu, not elected & foreign.  I don't know if he's centralist,  but he does believe in fairy sories.

Oh well Roger talk about hedging your bets if in say 20 years things are going bad you can then say you did it for your great grandchildren as in the long run it will hopefully have been worth it.

What are the Greeks going to tell their next generation? They are ruined and still in there, trapped by the Euro. Every Greek I know would have been out like a shot if not for the currency hit.

Ironic that the Democrats attack Trump for suggesting he may not accept a result. Wasn't it the democrats who challenegd the vote in florida when Bush won and his brother ran Florida,it delayed the decision for a couple of weeks. The man who told the governor to challenge it was a certain Mr Clinton,apparently !

So you think our economy is the same as the greeks?.

Don't be silly, there is potential strife whether in or out, your "if in say 20 years" type of questions are meaningless, no one knows.

I was replying to Roger who said he voted for his unborn grandchildren when most of the brexiteers campaign seemed to be based on how we would almost instantly be better off which was bullshit.

Oct 21, 2016 -- 11:02AM, saddo wrote:

What are the Greeks going to tell their next generation? They are ruined and still in there, trapped by the Euro. Every Greek I know would have been out like a shot if not for the currency hit.

The greeks are entirely responsible for their own demise.  They refused to reform their economy to protect vested interests.  After the debacle last year when the banks were shut, they finally agreed to reforms, but still have to be dragged kicking and screaming into a modern economy.

They should never have got in the EU, dave. They didn't meet the financial criteria and were sent away to fiddle the books and try again, so desperate was the USE to grow, and Germany to lend them money to buy German arms.

* Albania coming in soon, good luck with that one.

We will not know if Brexit was the right decision within a year or two. The damage that has been done by mass immigration  and all aspects of the European project will still be there. Now of course it takes decades for the changes of even the last few years to impact and this will not be possible to reverse. 

This is what must happen, there must be change, it is not enough to just leave theEU, that is meaningless in itself.
So this is the problem, damage had been done that is only going to become evident over time, the worst and most disasterous effects of the last decades have still to be felt, what happens in the next 50 years and longer will be because of the mad decisions made during our time in Europe.

The damage may be irreversible.

I cant see how it can ever be the wrong decision.

By remaining in the EU you are signing up to undemocratic ponzi cult, by remaining you are signed up to liberals ruling every country for the rest of time.

I dont care if we end up poorer, i can take that as long as we have an identity. We are a fantastic country who are fully capable of becoming self sufficient. Other countries around the world do just fine without being a member of a group, that is why i just dont get the remainers, are they just insecure or do they want their libtards views to rule the world ? i still dont get it.

What I am saying is impact of the wrong decisions of the last few decades have still to impact Britain, these things take time by the very nature of things, and we will be out of the EU st the time when these effects are becoming more and more evident. Brexit will not be able to change that, for many many years, maybe never.

I agree sonko but the point is the damage has been done and a lot of that is going to get worse over time not better

You could make the argument that unless there is really radical change then nothing that happens in the next 100 years will be the result of Brexit, but the result of the cavalier and mad decisions made in these last few decades

The remainers will not understand that, they are blind and extremely stupid and a very high percentage are insane.

Stupid leftie confused, who would had thought it.

Cant see how it can be worse, every country in the eu has a massif tarrif to fund the eighty five thousand workers who the remainers think they work for free.

Abraham I voted to leave for your information

But nationalism was not my main motivation

Isn't Brexit the exactly wrong choice if you're scared of islamisation?

the one brain cell wonders never got that pre referendum.

dont expect them to understand now lol

I would have thought germany proved that supposition to be misjudged.