This Murder Could Change The Voting

the vote will hinge on the younger generations vote,as the suicide rate and desperation increases in the likes  of spain,greece portugal etc and an mp is murdered in the uk,the young people of the uk cant sleep for worrying about losing cheaper roaming calls in the eu and having to stand in a passport,visa queue in magaluf,the world waits for them to get their sorry backsides out of bed

if he prepared properly he,ll have voted remain by post so he can call on the eu to protect his rights whilst in jail,

Zen not watching but they've been advertising that all week with
the little toddlers sl@gging of Sir Donald

what's your name...

i am the quintessential nut with a knife aka britmaniac. i kill anybody smaller than me.

i'd never heard of her before the shooting. had you?

The death of 1 Labour MP is a tragedy.
The covering up by Labour of the rape & torture of
1400 children in Labour controlled Rotherham
is just a statistic.

Interesting post i copied from elsewhere

Sunday Mirror claiming MP shooting helped Remain side,is kind of below the belt

The Star claimed she was killed
by a brexit supporter on the front page (disgusting)

No proof that he was either a supporter of Leave or Remain.

There could well be a reasoning behind this that has nothing at all what
so ever to do with staying in the EU.

He said his name is Death to Traitors - most MP's probably fit that traitor category!

Leave as big as 5/2 again now with the high st firms

surely you're not surprised not even MoneyTree would tip Out now

The only good thing that can come out of all this is hopefully the Tories will tear themselves apart , would serve them right and I pray that it happens

yes and Labour will lose even more support, did you see your glorious leader this morning saying there is no upward figure on immigration? It's the likes of you I pity anx you're stuck here.

Burton if there is a remain victory I do think that any government would try to combat immigration  they will be forced too , because this referendum and campaign has been that brutal the last thing the financial markets and a tory government want is anarchy, murder and violence it might affect their money.

EU law does not allow any room to combat it, in just over 12 months those who went to Germany will get an EU passport.

There can be no upper limit on the number of people coming into the UK while there is free movement of Labour in the EU
Jeremy Corbyn, said today

To control it we must vote leave.

Anybody who votes remain can never complain about immigration ever again...

This is the one and only chance to control immigration it will never happen again!

We are pledged to take 20,000 Syrian refugees by 2020..about 1600 have already arrived....

So are all EU countries, as BB posted, they can in just over 12 months move here

Anybody voting remain, be absolutely sure what you are voting for

We are pledged to take 20,000 Syrian refugees by 2020
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no that many then.


sooner have 20,000 well behaved Syrians than 20,000 Chavvy English folk if there's a choice.

although  we need to be careful who we take in obviously .

We won't be able to choose

Immigration is essential .

we need younger folk ,not older and those breeding in the UK are of the wrong demographics .

the nations IQ is getting lower AS IT STANDS .

i hope you old folk  realise this when voting Exit .

i heard one old boy saying  about voting for his grandchildren and their children.

Probably didn't  realise that the young want to stay in the EU

How accurate can these polls be leading up to thursday do you think?

Id guess there's a large number of people like myself that never bother
to vote will be getting off their @rses to vote Leave to get away from the
nonsense going on within the eu.

The BBc/C4 have a funny turn of phrase :
First generation nutter = home grown nutter, therefore immigration doesn't matter,
after 1 or less generations, say nothing. How stupid is that?

As a contrast..
Poland is a far larger country, far bigger than Belgium, both are in Europe.

Do any of the forum lefties want to place a bet as to which country will produce
more mass murderous religious nutters in the next 3 years. I mean Belgium are
producing them at a rate of dozens a year now. What's the difference.....?

From which communities will the willing mass murderers come?

You mean the young white liberal brainwashed types that hate their
own country - the sort holding up banners saying refugees welcome

Ron, my target here is to at least make 1% of these fools grow up,
calm down, baby steps :)

I was referring to Coachbuster saying.


Probably didn't  realise that the young want to stay in the EU Laugh

We need more people prepared to put Britain first, huh?

nice to see the tory party, big buisness and the london luvie elite who,ve spent the last 10 years telling us all, the young generation are feckless,unemployable,cant look you in the eye,strong handshake blah ,blah are the voice of inteligence and reason and their lead should be followed in this refferendum,unfathomable hypocrisy,they were labled middleclass knobheads when protesting about tuition fees not 18 months ago
99% of this younger generation are voting to preserve cheap roaming charges on their i phones and easy access to magaluf and ibiza for their summer jolly,probably about right for the level of debate in this country
alot of media , luvie mp,s getting all sniffy about ukips poster on tv today even the dimmist amongst them must no a remain vote on thurs sends millions more to join ukip and so more posters ,campaigns such as the poster they say they dispise
corbyn once again completing dismissing the worries over imigration of the majority of labour voters on tv this morning,his only response seemed to be spending billions on these area,s to make them nicer to ,live and so enticing even more imigrants to come,its like dumber and dumber,remainer,s can bury their heads as much as they like and tut,tut but this aint going away millions are living the effects of mass imigration 34 hrs a day 365 days a year,the resentment will just grow and grow long after osbourne,cameron and carney are earning 100,000 a pop for after dinner speaking

its that bad 34 hrs a day instead of 24,

You mean the young white liberal brainwashed types that hate their
own country - the sort holding up banners saying refugees welcome
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i love England ,it's a great country on the whole . But  have you looked around you and noted that a lot of folk have immigrant parents or grandparents ?
They are English to you and me but their parents came over here maybe for a better life .
  We need young people  for the future , we have an ageing population.  This country cannot run itself ,it has neither the skills or resources .
It would be nice to pick and choose immigrants of course - kick out the scoundrels   ,but as i was saying we hardly get to choose  our own .  Just have to make sure anyone not behaving themselves  faces the correct punishment .
Do you think leaving the EU will bring an end to illegals all of a sudden  ? 

a 1 minute clip on the reality of the people coming here to scrounge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRp9hdP96Vg

Australia has done fairly OK  for itself  letting in all the English and Asian immigrants over the years 

Also Ronnie lad,how do you feel about the English  in Spain  ? 

and i bet these old timers in their younger day wouldn't have minded a few hundred Italian or Swedesh young women moving into their neighborhood 

some say we have no room ,we are a tiny island .

but these immigrants sleep 10 to a room

Im with Mikael - we need to put Britain first

those immigrants have probably improved Calais 

Since 1973 .

London is a much cleaner place . people want to visit there nowadays.

Notting Hill  now has flower gardens instead of old Sofas .

Fish are alive in the River Thames .

Central London isn't derelict anymore .

I still won't be arsed to vote though 

Didn't Gove say this morning he shuddered when he saw farage and his poster , I think that tells you that even the likes of Gove cant abide farage

well he would say that wouldn't he

I haven't got a problem with people coming here as long as they abide by our laws &
adapt to our culture to a certain degree, if your not prepared to do that then don't
come here....I can't see why if France have banned the full face veil why can't we?

Coming from some of these muslim countries they see Sharia as the law of the land,
how are people like this ever going to be how to adjust?

I think irrespective of the vote on Thursday you have a lots of people here who the authorities do not know about and mainland Europe you several million wandering about , I think most of the damage has already been done and any government left or right, or the EU will struggle with this for years and years

i think if tht did a 24 hrs at victoria coach station type programme at the end of it ,they might not like it but few would deny the truth of farages poster,off course we could just ask the people of cologne,stockholm,oslo etc

Jun 19, 2016 -- 1:33PM, Burton-Brewers wrote:

EU law does not allow any room to combat it, in just over 12 months those who went to Germany will get an EU passport.

The EU does not issue own passports to people. If you mean the refugees will become german citizens within 12 months, you're wrong. Refugees need to have been in Germany at least 6 years, along with a number of other requirements like not being on welfare to become citizens.

You always have to remember that....
This is where things go.


Yep next

after recent events brexiteers could be seen as the new 'shy tories' and may discredit forthcoming polls.

The fact that Farage's poster has been labelled as 'vile and racist' is astonishing. A classic case of silencing the debate on immigration.

Europe is a basket case. Unemployment is running at 10%. Thanks to Merkel, thousands of migrants have died after taking her advice to 'come on in'. Millions have and are making the journey and will transform Europe and not for the better. (see crime figures for Germany and Sweden..)

In North Rhine-Westphalia last year, police had to respond 93,000 times to violence in refugee centres as 'cultural, ethnic and religious conflicts in the accommodation, the spatial narrowness, lack of privacy and the considerable consumption of alcohol triggered conflicts. Resulting consequences must be drawn.'

- Daily Mail

Lunatic Killer is Pro leave ,So he goes out and Murders a remain person ,Shouting about Britain First while committing the murder and  when in court ,seems strange that a Brexit supporter would not have thought this would not help the campaign ..

Conspiracy Theorists Brains must shirley be ticking over ..

Cox was stabbed and shot, allegedly by a right-wing loner. But some supporters of a British exit from the EU are spreading a conspiracy theory that the suspect, identified as Thomas Mair, 52, is a patsy of pro-EU forces, and that Cox’s murder is a “false flag” aimed at portraying the British right as unhinged and dangerous.

Casemoney

I think only a murder like this could have halted the Leave momentum.
Anyone with sound mind would have realised murdering a fine Remain politician would be lessen your chances of independence.

Anyone with sound mind would have realised murdering a fine Remain politician would  lessen your chances of independence.

It appears Sound mind is Certainly not the Case

I haven't got a problem with people coming here as long as they abide by our laws &
adapt to our culture to a certain degree
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couldn't agree more with that .

Same

The establishment was quick to 'Unite against the hate'

Corbyn never mentioned hospital beds for psychiatric patients. Perhaps he should.

well it took osbourne about 2 mins in the world of new politics to start comparing people with nazi,s, classy bloke
and within another 20 mins cameron was cherry picking words from a murdered womans thoughts to make political capital ,even thought jo cox wrote plenty of times about people having the right to worry about the impact of imigration
teach alot of things at eton but class aint one of them

stephen kinnock when asked on sky a minute ago about farages poster took 1 second to tell people what he thought joe cox would think about ,these people are filth

Jo Cox was honest enough to admit that immigration was a legitimate concern, but it seems now that the establishment want to silence the debate on immigration.
However the establishment now want to silence any talk of immigration because Jo Cox was a unifier.

People of all colours now are seen as the unity of the EU. However the EU is a rich white man's club, and non EU nationals are not treated the same.

does  anyone think that after the vote this issue will be finished? or just the start of long and dirty war.

people like my own mp and kinnock amaze me ,the eu stands by whilst his constitituents steel and manufacturing industies are decimated and he still pats his constituents on the head and says i no better,fair enough him and his family have slurped the last dregs out of the EU gravey boat but the rest of us have got nowt
i see that rosie o,grady of the tuc has been put up thev remainers for this weeks big wembley debate,union members on mass want out but not one union balloted their members on their opinions because they new what the answers would be,democracy eu style if you like so no wonder the disgraceful o,grady backs remain

welsh politicians?


what do you expect....

does  anyone think that after the vote this issue will be finished? or just the start of long and dirty war.


The rise of the far right. UKIP surge.....more divisions. If we remain.
Sensible debates, sensible migration system, equality for migrants of all race if we leave.

Spot on.

You'd think DC would be wise enough to realise that leaving would decimate UKIP and anyone else on the Right.

Sadly, he went to university so he's intelligent but not wise.

So, let me take a punt here. If Remain wins this week I'm guessing the brexiters will be demanding a new referendum to be run within the next year because the murder unduly affected the result.

The remain voters don't seem to acknowledge this Injera.

The working class will leave Labour in droves, to Ukip.
Euroskeptic Tories will also jump ship, but UKIP will need to turn votes into seats.
At the last GE the Tory/Ukip combined % was 48.5% of the vote, i would expect that combined to be up o 60%.

This is what the remainers are voting for but they just seemed obsessed with being anti Boris/right wing in the short term but they will create a right wing monster for the long term.

Bang on sir.

Why can't Labour see this and take advantage?? They used to be the party of the manual worker, white van man etc. Now they are so far removed from their core support, they consider them bigots (ref G. Brown..)

The liberal not so elite could well be handing UKIP a dream ticket.

LabourLeave realise this, they know that the working class are being ignored by the official Labour line.

Blair, Miliband and now Carbyn all ignored working class concerns on over supply of EU Labour.

And still it continues, they are doomed.

This is where things go.

Never forget that.

Yep next

I'm not so sure remain would be such a disasterfor too long- the Euro is going to fail, some of the ain european members are getting very p1ssed off - France for one -its not going to take much for lots of cards to topple

By voting you are making a vow to uphold and stand by the result.
So please clap your hands and applaud the winners and nothing need more be said about the matter.

Yep next

the eu stands by whilst his constitituents steel and manufacturing industies are decimated

Remind me again how our government (gove ids and that silly bloke that ran the justice dep into the ground included) voted on the EU recommendations to impose tariffs on steel from China earlier this year please old bean? I believe it was a few weeks before Tata said Ta-Ta if you need help looking it up.

The Murder as tragic as it is ,should have no Bearing on Leave or Remain ,just shows how redic the whole shebang is

The deification of Jo Cox is nauseating (reaches for tin hat, hides under table).

To see the HoC grieve publicly over the death of one of their own is quite extraordinary. Whan a soldier dies, they mention his name ('condolencenses to the family etc') and then back to punch and judy politics.

Love to Know why Gideon and Dave so Pro remain ,the real Reasons not the bollix they have been spouting ..

"The deification of Jo Cox is nauseating"
as is the use of her name for political means by "My family is coining it large from the EU, please remain" Kinnock the Younger.

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects  · 8m8 minutes ago 

Understood to be expecting the following #EUref polls:
20/06 ORB
20/06 YouGov
21/06 NatCen
21/06 Survation
23/06 Ipsos Mori
23/06 YouGov

Casemoney wrote:

Love to know why Gideon and Dave are so pro remain, the real reasons not the bollócks they have been spouting."

I suspect that Her Majesty's Civil Service has played a large part.  The Sir Humphreys of Whitehall appear to be strongly in favour of the European Union's profligate bureaucracy.  How surprising, eh?

Britain Elects ‏@britainelects  · 5m5 minutes ago 

EU referendum poll:
Remain: 53% (+5)
Leave: 46% (-3)
(via ORB, phone / )
Certain to vote.

why is out lumped in with the racists. racists on both sides.

this is about control of borders. about less control from a centralizing intelligence.
away from the hive mind they are building.


HIVE MIND.

Up before the courts Thursday morning  10 am

Not all quitters are racists but all racists will be voting to quit. I believe that's the line, isn't it.

Jun 20, 2016 -- 7:19PM, casemoney wrote:

Love to Know why Gideon and Dave so Pro remain ,the real Reasons not the bollix they have been spouting ..

Yeah it's all a conspiracy rofl.  Maybe they just think that Britain and Europe will be a better place?  Here's something to think about.  Vote Leave don't even believe their own propaganda, so they have to edit video footage.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-vote-leave-campaign-turkey-video-doctored-screams-a7092191.html

Gove straight out accused of lying yesterday - yes, the Lord Chancellor a liar - its pretty clear where "the bollix" has been coming from in the campaign.

can ask you leave voters

where will your votes move to next general election if its remain

“This will play well for us,” said a Labour pro-Remain figure on Saturday responding to the murder of pro-Remain Labour MP Jo Cox.
Will Straw, director of the Remain campaign, has been caught red-handed advising his team how to exploit Cox’s death by playing up the message that Leave represent “division and resentment” while only Remain represents “decent, tolerant Britain.”

Not all quitters are racists but all racists will be voting to quit. I believe that's the line, isn't it.


Many racists also support the rich white man's club Pineapple, so this racism charge of yours is flawed.
Eastern European workers are not a race issue, but they are indeed racist as a majority themselves.

Keep supporting that white power Pineapple.

The rich white man's club being the EU, Pineapple if you was unsure.

Syrians attacking vera lynns singing could swing it back to the other side.

If its close.. say 48 to 52 in favour of remain then in 5 years time we will have another referendum under a Boris administration.....when sadly Jo Cox's death and Nigels nasty posters will all be a distant memory.

even a black man today was called a nazi for handing out Leave leaflets amazing

The luvvies on the remain side are seeing little Hitlers everywhere B-B.
They support Islam though that is against the Jews.

They are coated in contradictions this mob.

think you will find not discriminating against one religion doesnt mean the left also discriminate against their rivals.....or are you just trying to twist an argument in desperation?

"Not all quitters are racists but all racists will be voting to quit. I believe that's the line, isn't it."



Not all remainiacs are the financial elite that punish countries for going against what suits them but all the financial elite etc etc

I caught a coffee in the face Zen about 6 weeks ago and a shout of racist. Although I expect someone will be along shortly to say it was a dream.

think you will find not discriminating against one religion doesnt mean the left also discriminate against their rivals.....or are you just trying to twist an argument in desperation?


Well if the luvvies are going to be apologists for blatant Islamic racism towards Jews and Christians then the luvvie handwringing at Farage's *rhetoric* about controlling borders is not only hypocrisy it is typical of this luvvie pinko outrage that has infected our society, from the school of Izzard.

still milking it

"Spin doctors at the heart of the Westminster establishment have been drafted in to stage a memorial event for Jo Cox, due to be broadcast from Trafalgar Square tomorrow on what would have been her 42nd birthday."
Broadcast coverage of the event is set to be organised by corporate PR agency Freuds, blogger Guido Fawkes has reported, while the press operation will be run by Portland Communications.

Both organisations are establishment outfits: Tony Blair’s former spin-doctor Alistair Campbell sits on Portland’s “strategic council”, while Freuds was founded in 1985 by Matthew Freud, son of Sir Clement Freud and sister to television interviewer Emma Freud.

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http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/06/21/establishment-spin-doctors-manage-cox-commemoration-event/

I caught a coffee in the face Zen about 6 weeks ago and a shout of racist. Although I expect someone will be along shortly to say it was a dream.


From a caring/sharing type no doubt. Split personalities when you disagree with them.

A memorial event at this time,clearly politically motivated and rather bizarre ?

Zenmaster - yes, I like Izzard as a stand up comedian, but really worried about his political thinking these days. Suffice it to say that he's living in dreamland when he thinks that us and mainland Europe are all mates together and why can't we just all get along!

He doesn't understand the human psyche. The human being by nature is a tribal animal and yes, we are taught to be civilised, but there are still these huge cultural differences between nations which are almost impossible to align with each other.

Maybe it can be done, but we are talking about a very long time into the future before that happens - 100 years or maybe more (if at all).