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kenny mann
31 May 16 20:10
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No, not a 10,000 runs thread.

pk, if the deer need culling (I don't know if they do) no need to look so happy about it ffs.



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Report twizzle22 • May 31, 2016 9:24 PM BST
Sad
Report Make my hay • May 31, 2016 9:33 PM BST
Wow what a man!

Maybe he'll have it's tiny head mounted to a wall in his house.Sad
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 9:38 PM BST
Kenny - Out of sensitivity to your sensitivies, I will limit my comments - as you know shooting deer in appropriate season is entirely legal. And any idiot (not you) who thinks that fence represents a deer-proof pen/trap may be a little short of knowledge of the subject.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 9:41 PM BST
Yes, I know it's legal, blackbarn, and maybe even necessary, but I was just thinking that the Cheshire cat smile, very much reflects on his character.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 9:42 PM BST
That photo is a few years old but nothing has changed I would imagine.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 9:44 PM BST
He wouldn't have got as many cheers if that photo had been handed out at the ground over the last few days.
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 9:46 PM BST
Kenny - I agree - it is not something you'd have your photo taken with as some major achievement. But your culling "I don't know if they do" and "maybe even necessary" illustrates your continuing and alarming lack of knowledge of the countryside. Still we've been here beforeWink Hey-ho
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 9:52 PM BST
"maye even necessary",was just to wind you up, lol. The point of the thread is why the hell look so smug and happy when you have killed a beautiful creature.
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 10:02 PM BST
Kenny - the wind up would be believable IF you hadn't posted "I don't know even if they do" need culling, about 30 minutes before that post. Anyway here's an educational thread to help you.  It is not a huntin,shootin.fishin site, tis the one the RSPB refers you to because they can't post anything deer negative themselves for fear of upsetting their "regulars"

http://www.thedeerinitiative.co.uk/
Report scandanavian_haven • May 31, 2016 10:06 PM BST
Read the article on it and he is pleased with his kill so it seems, although it comes across to me that this was a ill thought out PR exercise, he talks a lot about not being a soft touch and needing to be hard to get to the top, think it was taken before the Ashes? maybe trying to send out some kind of subliminal message that he is not easy target and the meek choir boy he's perceived as.

Still, anyone with a grain of sense wouldn't pose with dead animals, especially one in the public eye.

I put it down to naivety and bad advice, if it was a habit, it would be different.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 10:11 PM BST
"I don't even know if they do",was actually true, because there are arguments for and against which I read about before starting the thread, although it would appear that culling is necessary in  certain areas, A lot of people advocate fencing as an alternative to killing.I'll have a look at the video later, thanks.
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 10:15 PM BST
Scandi - I haven't seen the article, and I see little wrong with a trophy shot of legal game. HOWEVER, I do agree that if the rationale for the shot was as you describe, it was ill-conceived as a profile enhancement exercise.   Didn't Botham do something similar (not sure why he needed it) apart from the long walk of course.
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 10:27 PM BST
Kenny - Re fencing - if you have a deer sensitive crop, as my neighbour does (Vineyard) and I do (Cider orchard) this is an option but it is hugely expensive (and visually very intrusive) because of the required height. BUT that is not the big issue, much more important is the impact on the natural regeneration of woodland (particularly ancient) of which we have a lot here in the South Downs National Park.  The link I gave you has lots of info on this, and the impact of deer.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 10:35 PM BST
ok, thanks, blackbarn.

he talks a lot about not being a soft touch and needing to be hard to get to the top, think it was taken before the Ashes? maybe trying to send out some kind of subliminal message that he is not easy target and the meek choir boy he's perceived as.


scandi, shooting Bambi is not exactly wrestling an alligater, is it mate?
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 10:36 PM BST
alligator*
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 10:51 PM BST
On a culinary note, may I just recommend the liver of the Chinese Water Deer, it is nearly on a par with Roe. (Well the venison is good too). Just in case anyone is interested.
Report scandanavian_haven • May 31, 2016 10:55 PM BST
I know but it does seem like a image thing to me to shake off his squeaky clean persona, rifle, blood, death probably seemed like a good idea to him at the time, idk.
Report scandanavian_haven • May 31, 2016 10:56 PM BST
Ps, don't bite at blackbarn's last postGrin
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 11:06 PM BST
scandi - Gotcha, but honest guv - my 22.51 post is in all sincerity.  The deer at Alistair's feet IS a Chinese Water Deer, and despite being an introduction to this country is great eating, and the liver is particularly good. Venison Liver (particularly Roe and Fallow) is seriously good - at least on a par or better than calves liver.  Just ask your butcher if you don't believe me.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 11:14 PM BST
I hate meat, had a lovely 5 bean chilli in 'Spoon's today, and cruelty free.
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 11:23 PM BST
Glad for you Kenny. What beans and where from?  Halfway round the world I guess, unless you've splashed out on early English Broadies.  . Any info on the pain tolerances of these beans, all that travel this time of year must be a real chore.
I am going to be harvesting mine soon, unless the deer get over the fences.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 11:26 PM BST
Wherever butter, pinto, haricot, cannellini and kidney beans come from.Grin
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 11:44 PM BST
A self-confessed country boy, Alastair enjoys working on his father-in-law’s farm and shooting on his days off from the game.

Alastair said: “Deer stalking is a release from cricket and I love being in the outdoors. I’m proud to be a member of the UK hunting community and I’m keen to learn the effects of deer management through my guide Alex Hinkins of Wings Hunting & Shooting.”

“We had a fantastic trip to Norfolk and I’m already looking forward to my next outing.”



Looking forward to it!!!! Sick bastard.
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 11:45 PM BST
Will never be able to watch this **** play cricket again!
Report blackbarn • May 31, 2016 11:45 PM BST
Gosh Kenny, your double standards know no end. Food miles are now an irrelevance to you, local produce an anathema, and vegetable travel cruelty knows no bounds. Your credibility is shot (sorry - humanely dispatched).
Report kenny mann • May 31, 2016 11:59 PM BST
That looks a very young deer Cook killed. Do they do the most damage?
Report kenny mann • June 1, 2016 12:14 AM BST
I'm keen to learn. Does population control mean that the youngest have to be eliminated first?
Report blackbarn • June 1, 2016 12:30 AM BST
Kenny - You could have googled this yourself - it is not a young deer, and no, and no.
Report crags • June 1, 2016 12:33 AM BST

May 31, 2016 -- 4:11PM, kenny mann wrote:


"I don't even know if they do",was actually true, because there are arguments for and against which I read about before starting the thread, although it would appear that culling is necessary in

Report kenny mann • June 1, 2016 12:47 AM BST
Looks a young deer to me.
Report scandanavian_haven • June 1, 2016 12:58 AM BST
He's killed an animal and he's smiling and posing with it, he is or was a plum, end of story.
Report akabula • June 5, 2016 10:49 PM BST
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Report Dr Crippen • June 5, 2016 11:28 PM BST
There's not much skill in shooting something as big as a deer from close range.

So I can't see what he's looking so pleased about.

Perhaps he just enjoys killing animals?

Must have a screw loose if that's the case.
Report akabula • June 5, 2016 11:37 PM BST
Agreed Dr C. I know they were culling the animals but he's presenting it as a trophy kill.
Report blackbarn • June 5, 2016 11:40 PM BST
Crippen - Why post on something you known nothing about?.......

This is a little deer, adults about 20 inches high. They are quite hard to shoot, which is a bit of a bu gg er since this imported species has absolutely no place in the British countryside.
Report kenny mann • June 6, 2016 1:01 PM BST
I don't think Crippen was professing  to be an expert on deer, mainly expressing his displeasure at the look on Cook's  face.
Report kenny mann • December 21, 2016 12:11 AM GMT
A suitable time to remind/advise people what a ct this man is.
Report kenny mann • December 21, 2016 12:12 AM GMT
Alastair* Guinness got it right.
Report donny osmond • December 21, 2016 12:22 AM GMT
same folk who pay to kill animals to preserve them long term could easily cough up
same money to relocate them to where all could enjoy, or failing that they could be
managed so as the population doesnt increase to a level whereby we need to
kill them.

anybody posing having killed anything for fun has to be a bit lacking somewhere
Report kenny mann • December 27, 2017 11:32 AM GMT
Alastair not Alistair. Good knock,apparently, albeit far too late, but as I said earlier I wouldn't watch.
Report kenny mann • December 27, 2017 11:41 AM GMT
Good knock apparently, but far too late.
Report Foinavon • December 27, 2017 12:13 PM GMT
Our cricket team need to salvage a bit of pride so a belated contribution from Cook is still welcome.

I don't approve of anyone killing animals for fun but I can appreciate his batting and fielding skills.
Report Foinavon • December 27, 2017 2:14 PM GMT
He's on the wane admittedly, but who have we got to replace him in the slips? It won't be long now before he is "advised" to call it a day.
I'm taking your advice regarding the meds, KoD. Wink
Report kenny mann • December 27, 2017 6:06 PM GMT
Pity Phil Sharpe, isn't available, Foinavon. The greatest slip fielder I ever saw, and a Yorkshireman. My brother in laws brother played in the same Yorkshire side as him.
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