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crystalhunt
21 Nov 15 09:35
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surely they've run out of ammo by now.
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Report Ibrahima Sonko • November 21, 2015 9:43 AM GMT
USA
Report morpteh mackem • November 21, 2015 9:56 AM GMT
the genius that is william hague thought it was a good idea to arm anti assad forces in syria.
Report A_T • November 21, 2015 10:10 AM GMT
saudi and qatar
Report Make my hay • November 21, 2015 10:18 AM GMT
USA
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • November 21, 2015 10:30 AM GMT
.
Report Just Checking • November 21, 2015 10:44 AM GMT
"The USA". Well that's why they have (soviet design) AK's and (soviet era) armour then, you tools.

Is the US famous for their manufacture of soviet small arms and old weaponary supplied to arab states and captured by these sorts of people? Do ANY of you people even have any sort of clue if you see one or the other? No, it's always, if in doubt blame .. bankers, or ... the US .. or .. ..never the truth.

We see on tv the same old footage of a captured BMP or T-62 such, and somehow to you, that's "the west's" fault...
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 10:46 AM GMT
USA.
Report Just Checking • November 21, 2015 10:47 AM GMT
The "tool" box completes itself.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 10:50 AM GMT
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-supplied-equipment-abandoned-by-iraqi-troops...
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 10:54 AM GMT
Mosul too. Stiil, Just Checking can set us straight...

Iraqi security forces lost 2,300 Humvee armored vehicles when Islamic State overran the northern city of Mosul in June 2014, Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Sunday in an interview with Iraqiya state television. Coupled with previous losses of American weapons, the conclusion is simple: The United States is effectively supplying Islamic State with tools of war the militant group cannot otherwise hope to acquire from its patrons.
Report Just Checking • November 21, 2015 11:04 AM GMT
Wooo humvees? Woo CBS taking a snipe at the US, there's a shocker?
I've seen many times on TV footage of the "armour" they've captured with smug comments about its origin being US, and it was soviet. I know the difference between what is basically a thick skinned arnie land rover that hip hop fans might like, and a battle tank or APC.

And even it they DID capture them, does that mean they supplied them?
If I give you a $10 note, and then you get mugged, and I supplying muggers?
Of course not. But lefties are so desparate to hate on the US, they'll try any sort of convoluted logic to justift it. That's, even at your best, what you're trying to do. It's pathetic.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • November 21, 2015 11:04 AM GMT
USA
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 11:09 AM GMT
OP asked 'Where are ISIL getting their weapons from?' not who is supplying them.

Obviously CBS are just making sh!t up...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/20914-fleeing-iraqi-troops-leave-u-s-weapons-for-isis-again

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/06/02/dude-wheres-my-humvee-iraqi-equipment-losses-to-islamic-state-are-out-of-control/

https://www.rt.com/news/263769-iraq-isis-humvees-weapons/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/islamic-state/11616780/Iraqi-army-abandoned-tanks-artillery-and-Humvees-to-Isil-in-fall-of-Ramadi.html


and an older story, from a sourse you'd no doubt approve...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-153210/Rumsfeld-helped-Iraq-chemical-weapons.html
Report Just Checking • November 21, 2015 11:15 AM GMT
Wooo humvees
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 11:19 AM GMT
Great response. You're too smart for me.
Report brendanuk1 • November 21, 2015 11:23 AM GMT
Grin
Report Just Checking • November 21, 2015 11:25 AM GMT
I try not to get involved in such things but from the shrapnel I've seen with your converations with Akabula, in my mind I have a vague the impression you're the sort of stereotypical anti-British anti-UK celtic supprting left wing wingnut to whom any intelligent thing I say won't make any impression anyway.

I may be wrong, but I think I'll leave it at that.

But I might jsut say that given the weapon of choice and serious hardware these people use are : the AK and RPG, both soviet, yet you guys chose to target the forgetable land rover they might, maybe, have travelled in, because it might be US, says all any intelligent observer might might need to know about you and your prejudice.

It's like blaming last Friday's slaughter on Fiat, if they drove up in Pandas...
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 11:31 AM GMT
I've yet to see you say anything intelligent but, as you say, it may not make an impression anyway, given that I support Celtic.

You could always educate the rest of the chit-chat tools though.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 11:38 AM GMT
I know next to nowt about military hardware/equipment, whereas you seem an expert JC, but here's a list of stuff that IS apparently have, or had, in their possession:

Sikorsky UH-60 Black Hawk
M113 Armored Personnel Carrier
M117 Guardian ASV
Cougar MRAP
HMMWV (Humvee) - laughable, I know
HMMWV M1114 UAH (Up-Armored Humvee) - almost as risible, probably
Oshkosh MTVR (Medium Tactical Vehicle Replacement)
Rock Island Arsenal M198 155mm
General Dynamics / Raytheon FIM-92 Stinger

All US-manufactured, seemingly.
Report Clouseau • November 21, 2015 12:05 PM GMT
HMMWV (Humvee) - laughable, I know

They are actually very handy for picking the kids up from school... Plain
Report guinness2dear • November 21, 2015 12:12 PM GMT
Never mind the weapons i do wish they would stop making videos of themselves butting cardboard chess boards and jumping through hoops slower than an Italian on a battlefield. My chuckle button is sore with laughter.

It's all very embarrassing but does go some way to explain why their favourite targets are women and children, and of course wheelchair users. I won't mention chasing Yazidis through the desert and murdering babies. Oooops, i did..
Report lfc1971 • November 21, 2015 12:34 PM GMT
Don`t worry Just Checking, there have always been people like Mikael around. Stalin knew the type, he called them useful idiots.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 12:46 PM GMT
You a fan of Uncle Joe then, lfc? He woulda dropped the 'useful' in your case.
Report lfc1971 • November 21, 2015 12:49 PM GMT
Say it ain`t so Joe.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • November 21, 2015 1:11 PM GMT
That was Joe Jackson. He was illiterate and backward. Would've fit in well around here.
Report mobo • November 21, 2015 1:12 PM GMT
AS one part of the military wing they are a bit of a rag tag but then were up against very inferior opposition

look at some of the other terror/extreme military  in palestine/lebanon/iran and we are looking at much more disciplined and trained nasties.
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • November 21, 2015 1:14 PM GMT
David Icke on form this week Laugh

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http://imgur.com/v6hLSV0
Report guinness2dear • November 21, 2015 1:18 PM GMT
That pic of Pootin and the cuckoo is bril; HH..
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • November 21, 2015 1:22 PM GMT
it is, and now there's one with Cameron as the kid which is as apt.
Report guinness2dear • November 21, 2015 1:26 PM GMT
One with the cuckoo and Cameron fighting over a piece of toast would be excellent..
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • November 21, 2015 1:34 PM GMT
as a rugby aficionado g2, you'll probably like this
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/620957/Brainy-Oxford-rugby-babes-strip-sexy-nude-calendar-match-Cambridge?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain
Report guinness2dear • November 21, 2015 1:43 PM GMT
Happy hooker?
Report guinness2dear • November 21, 2015 1:45 PM GMT
No 18 (going from the left) is one for Slippy..
Report HH Sultan Vinegar • November 21, 2015 1:47 PM GMT
I'm not sure the tight head, 5th from the right should've got involved.
Report guinness2dear • November 21, 2015 1:57 PM GMT
They is the same
Report alleged22 • November 21, 2015 5:05 PM GMT
not only did we arm the rebels against assad we trained them, they then changed there allegiance to isil, so now we face heavily armed lunatics and trained ones aswell.
Report treetop • November 21, 2015 5:33 PM GMT
I dont think the lunatics are limited to ISIL alleged,our F.O and the EU brains havent come out of all this with a lot of credit.
Report GRANTCKING • November 21, 2015 7:56 PM GMT
I thought it they were called ISIS, when did they turn it into ISIL? what does the L stand for?
Report brendanuk1 • November 21, 2015 8:00 PM GMT
Levant

Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (ISIL),
Arabic al-Dawlah al-Islāmiyyah fī al-ʿIrāq wa al-Shām, (Daesh)
Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS)
Report GRANTCKING • November 21, 2015 8:01 PM GMT
ah ok
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