Help with a bet appreciated

Some firms like PP do not take 5p or 10p rule 4 deductions from winnings so I can only assume you have been deducted for 1 non runner and not both of them. That's my guess anyway.

Thanks, Slippy but I phoned WH and they said 25p r4.

Same with Cor, £125 on same horse, returns £562.50, can't make it fit with any rule 4.

They said 30p r4, also took 4/1.

In both cases the returns are, (paid at full odds but only half stake back)

Not sure then, doesn't add up that.

Are you sure you didn't get cashback?

Very good Clouseau.

lol, genius.

Online bet to clear things up.

Both bookies seem to have done exactly the same.

Just noticed the SP was 7/2 not 4/1 but that shouldn't affect anything.

7 2 guaranteed then

Well I took 4/1 anyway Capt, so the 7/2 SP shouldn't affect anything.

Ah, you may have something. It works out as if I've been paid  at SP with no deduction!

and yet it clearly stated 4/1 on the settlement page.

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The rule4 of 25p would only apply to SP bets if the w/d horse was a different early price.
If you took an early price and the w/d horse was a bigger price than it's pre w/d price the r4 would be less.

Thanks aka, so are the returns correct?

To make it simple if I had £25 on a horse that I took an early price of 4/1 about and the SP was 7/2 and there was a 25p reduction (horse was withdrawn long after my bet) what should my returns be?

That's a very good answer of yours btw. Just trying to get my head round it. lol

Most firms will pay you whatever is the highest..returns of sp  or taken price with r4.

Standard offer like guaranteed odds.

As the returns from £25 at sp (no rule 4 as market already been reformed) work out more than £25 at 4/1 minus r4 you got paid £168.75 instead of £150.

Oh I see, giggitygiggity. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks very much. That clears it up nicely.

I'm surprised Corals did that, seeing as they withdrew my best odds privilege.

On reflection Kenny and looking at the return I'm thinking the horse must have been withdrawn early doors and the revised betting market reflected this.
Therefore your bet was 4/1 les 25p which is 4/1 x 75/100 = 3/1. the returned SP was 7/2 with no r4 as the market had been made with this already a nr.
I'm also guessing your bet was BOG therefore you'd be on at the SP and £37.50 @ 7/2 no r4 = £168.75.

Sorry just read giggi's post which is saying the same.

Coral don't allow me bog though, quite often this concession is taken away from punters.

Never mind, I'm well on the right side. Thought I'd only made £20 on the arb but made a ton.