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This was the discussion at the pub tonight. Most were in favour.
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People who drink until they are incapable of clapping their hands and in hospital purely as a result of the drink then Yes.
People drunk but not to that state and have fallen over and hurt themselves and etc then No.
Before anyone points out it would be very difficult to implement.
People drunk but not to that state and have fallen over and hurt themselves and etc then No.
Before anyone points out it would be very difficult to implement.
Repeat offenders yes. But I think for example, that if a youngster goes out and has too many and needs a bit of medical help, then it's not on to charge them. Most 18 year olds will be going to spend a lifetime of paying taxes. Repeat offenders, who just won't learn, should be.
Although I saw something on the box recently that was good. An charity organisation actually setup mobile centres in town centres with beds. People,who were too drunk could come in and lie down and there was voluntary staff including a doctor to look after them and make sure there was nothing more serious wrong.The local A&E said it had really taken the pressure off them at weekends.
Although I saw something on the box recently that was good. An charity organisation actually setup mobile centres in town centres with beds. People,who were too drunk could come in and lie down and there was voluntary staff including a doctor to look after them and make sure there was nothing more serious wrong.The local A&E said it had really taken the pressure off them at weekends.
They should certainly have to go to the back of the queue.
My wife was in a seriously bad condition, after a massive "Anaphylactic Shock" during the night.
I thought we had lost her at the time.
She was taken to A&E by emergency ambulance and had to wait to be seen because they were attending to a drunk,
and with two policemen in attendance!
My wife was in a seriously bad condition, after a massive "Anaphylactic Shock" during the night.
I thought we had lost her at the time.
She was taken to A&E by emergency ambulance and had to wait to be seen because they were attending to a drunk,
and with two policemen in attendance!
im more worried about the illegal immigrants raping the nhs than drunks and junkies tbh
Since tory big b0llocks now has a majority without a liberal democrat veto.....
In the words of picard....
MAKE IT SO.
In the words of picard....
MAKE IT SO.
we have benefit sanctions....so why not 'nhs' sanctions?
Anything that is ' self inflicted ' is a waste of resource and preventing/ delaying treatment for more deserving patients.So yes , these selfish people should be charged for their treatment.
Put them at the back of the 'Emergency' queue, and charge in full.
Ditto the drugged-up idiots.
The NHS has no time for these sorts. It's bad enough that Allah only knows how many millions have been added to the NHS population without the voter/taxpayer consent.
Ditto the drugged-up idiots.
The NHS has no time for these sorts. It's bad enough that Allah only knows how many millions have been added to the NHS population without the voter/taxpayer consent.
anybody who rocks up to A&E could be deemed to have got themselves into that position, so charge them all.
Should drunks be charged for treatment at A and E?
Most certainly not.
They should be thrown into skips at the back of the kitchens, and left there.
Most certainly not.
They should be thrown into skips at the back of the kitchens, and left there.
Facts, self-inflicted conditions would include (smoke-related) cancer, heart disease and diabetes amongst others
The NHS does not have a problem with drunks...its another example of mps and civilservants putting the blame on the wrong target..deliberately so, because they are too dishonest to say the real reason.
It is this simple, there are hundreds of thousands of people using the health service who have never paid towards it.
I have to confess that especially Fridays and Saturdays in A@E could be quite hairy at times and whilst I don't have a strong leaning I'm inclined to say no. Free at the point of need. As long as that principle exists is it fair to single out drinkers? Sure it's self inflicted. So is smoking related illness. So is obesity related illness. You could go through a list as long as your arm. It's also true as smokers would say about their habit that the taxes they pay contributes already to any treatment they could need. How much tax will your average drunk pay on their beer before they need hospital treatment?
Like I said I don't feel strongly because incapable, or those close to it, drunks can be a nuisance but I think we just about rub along okay as things stand.
Like I said I don't feel strongly because incapable, or those close to it, drunks can be a nuisance but I think we just about rub along okay as things stand.
FatherMaguire 19 May 15 00:11
Facts, self-inflicted conditions would include (smoke-related) cancer, heart disease and diabetes amongst others
Except usually, these individuals don't turn up regularly on a Friday/Saturday night,being aggressive to patients and staff alike,puking,and generally disrupting the overworked/understaffed A & E dept, to the extent that often security staff have to called.
Facts, self-inflicted conditions would include (smoke-related) cancer, heart disease and diabetes amongst others
Except usually, these individuals don't turn up regularly on a Friday/Saturday night,being aggressive to patients and staff alike,puking,and generally disrupting the overworked/understaffed A & E dept, to the extent that often security staff have to called.
Eeternaloptimist 19 May 15 00:56
'........How much tax will your average drunk pay on their beer before they need hospital treatment?......'
A mere drop in the ocean when you take into account the total financial cost involved in one single death caused by a drunk driver. £ 500,000/£ 1 m ?
'........How much tax will your average drunk pay on their beer before they need hospital treatment?......'
A mere drop in the ocean when you take into account the total financial cost involved in one single death caused by a drunk driver. £ 500,000/£ 1 m ?
What about cr@p or dangerous driving how much do you think that costs?
Yesterday on the way to Coventry I counted 7 crashes on the M6 alone all before noon and all driver error.
If the day comes when the NHS gets to choose who they charge then we all should have the choice as to fund it or not.
Yesterday on the way to Coventry I counted 7 crashes on the M6 alone all before noon and all driver error.
If the day comes when the NHS gets to choose who they charge then we all should have the choice as to fund it or not.
How do you know they were all driver error. Are you a policeman and did you interview them ?
Why not fine the pub that's sold them too much ??
yes ,because alcohol is heavily taxed - the idea should be to help the health service fund surely . althoug h any abusive alchies should be tuined away - thats the bigger problem, abuse to staff
A mere drop in the ocean when you take into account the total financial cost involved in one single death caused by a drunk driver. £ 500,000/£ 1 m ?
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drink driving isn't about alcholismn though - most alchies don't even have a car -not surprisingly i guess
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drink driving isn't about alcholismn though - most alchies don't even have a car -not surprisingly i guess
Facts I have been a HGV Driver for over 20 years seen enough accidents over the years to know when its driver error, or do you think British motorways are full of drink drivers?
Drink driving makes up a small proportion of accidents on the road, drink driving like speeding is measurable, so its easier to prove.
That's why the authoritys target them more.
Drink driving makes up a small proportion of accidents on the road, drink driving like speeding is measurable, so its easier to prove.
That's why the authoritys target them more.
macarony 19 May 15 15:05
Facts I have been a HGV Driver for over 20 years seen enough accidents over the years to know when its driver error, or do you think British motorways are full of drink drivers?
Still me driver errors if they were drunk.
No, my point was, could mechanical failure or road condition or something falling off a lorry, caused some of the crashes ?
Facts I have been a HGV Driver for over 20 years seen enough accidents over the years to know when its driver error, or do you think British motorways are full of drink drivers?
Still me driver errors if they were drunk.
No, my point was, could mechanical failure or road condition or something falling off a lorry, caused some of the crashes ?
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