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14 May 15
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Nigel Farage, the Ukip leader, is facing a “coup” after the party’s treasurer and one of its biggest donors called for a leadership contest.
Stuart Wheeler, who has given hundreds of thousands of pounds to the party, said he would like to see Farage stand aside and face a vote. The Ukip leader briefly stepped down after failing to win his South Thanet target seat but then withdrew his resignation four days later, saying the national executive had overwhelmingly wanted him to stay.
Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, Wheeler said it was “time for something quieter” in terms of the Ukip leadership. He said he thought Farage was exhausted, in pain from back problems and should have remained resigned at least until a new contest could be held in the autumn.
Wheeler said Farage was too aggressive and divisive as the party headed into the crucial period before the EU referendum, which would give Ukip the opportunity to campaign for its main aim of leaving.
Hugh Williams, the party’s treasurer, backed Wheeler, saying Farage was the “best political performer in this country, but there has to come a time – and I think that time is probably now – when he has to let the party stand on its own two feet.”
He told BBC Radio 4’s World at One: “There is a great danger it is seen as a Nigel Farage party rather than the UK Independence party.”
Festering tensions at the heart of the party broke into the open after Patrick O’Flynn, the party’s campaign director, said Farage had turned into a “snarling, thin-skinned and aggressive” man during the election and warned of it turning into a personality cult.
He broke cover in an interview with the Times (paywall), in which he blamed failures in the party’s election campaign on Farage’s closest aides. Speaking later to Sky News, O’Flynn said he supported Farage’s leadership but wanted to call time on “poisonous” advisers who had tried to take the party in a hard-right, aggressive, direction similar to the Tea Party movement in the US.
Nigel Farage is a 'snarling, thin-skinned and aggressive' man, says campaign chief
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But a senior Ukip source said he had no doubt that a coup was under way, despite O’Flynn’s claims of loyalty. The source also claimed the deputy chairman, Suzanne Evans, as well as the party’s only MP, Douglas Carswell, and much of the Ukip press office in London appeared to be working together to undermine Farage.
Stuart Wheeler, who has given hundreds of thousands of pounds to the party, said he would like to see Farage stand aside and face a vote. The Ukip leader briefly stepped down after failing to win his South Thanet target seat but then withdrew his resignation four days later, saying the national executive had overwhelmingly wanted him to stay.
Speaking on BBC Radio 5 Live, Wheeler said it was “time for something quieter” in terms of the Ukip leadership. He said he thought Farage was exhausted, in pain from back problems and should have remained resigned at least until a new contest could be held in the autumn.
Wheeler said Farage was too aggressive and divisive as the party headed into the crucial period before the EU referendum, which would give Ukip the opportunity to campaign for its main aim of leaving.
Hugh Williams, the party’s treasurer, backed Wheeler, saying Farage was the “best political performer in this country, but there has to come a time – and I think that time is probably now – when he has to let the party stand on its own two feet.”
He told BBC Radio 4’s World at One: “There is a great danger it is seen as a Nigel Farage party rather than the UK Independence party.”
Festering tensions at the heart of the party broke into the open after Patrick O’Flynn, the party’s campaign director, said Farage had turned into a “snarling, thin-skinned and aggressive” man during the election and warned of it turning into a personality cult.
He broke cover in an interview with the Times (paywall), in which he blamed failures in the party’s election campaign on Farage’s closest aides. Speaking later to Sky News, O’Flynn said he supported Farage’s leadership but wanted to call time on “poisonous” advisers who had tried to take the party in a hard-right, aggressive, direction similar to the Tea Party movement in the US.
Nigel Farage is a 'snarling, thin-skinned and aggressive' man, says campaign chief
Read more
But a senior Ukip source said he had no doubt that a coup was under way, despite O’Flynn’s claims of loyalty. The source also claimed the deputy chairman, Suzanne Evans, as well as the party’s only MP, Douglas Carswell, and much of the Ukip press office in London appeared to be working together to undermine Farage.
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surprised they are falling apart so quickly though, even if they are bunch of freaks
Is it true this is Farage's 7th failure to become an MP?
bit of a pointless fact considering he would have been about a million to one to win on the other 6 occasions he's stood
You have to laugh at the way the bbc and others are getting excited over a non story.
do ukippers want Ferage to stay or to go? Seems alot of those who know him best want shut of him
http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-1225/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/...
CHannel 4 News :
Nigel does his own thing without the party knowing where he is or what he is doing
Will Gilpin, former Ukip chief executive in 2013
Mr Carswell was not happy with this and only knew about it when Laura Pitel from the Times showed him the news on her phone.
An email quoted by the Mail claimed that Ukip election candidates were told by head of candidates David Soutter to send supportive messages about Mr Farage ahead of a meeting.
Money, Money Money: 13 May 2015
Douglas Carswell announced publicly that UKIP in parliament does not need £650,000 of taxpayers’ money to run a parliamentary operation. He said that spending the money - owed to Ukip because it won almost four million votes and became a major party - would be the behavior of an "American senator".
Snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive Farage: 14 May 2015
Patrick O'Flynn the former political editor of The Express and the party's economic spokesman said that Mr Farage was risking turning the party into a "personality cult".
He also attacked senior aides within the party and told The Times "aggressive" and "inexperienced" staffers must be cleared out.
'Make Carswell leader': 14 May 2015
Godfrey Bloom, the controversial figure who left the party after referring to women as "sluts", said Mr Carswell should step forward and lead. This prospect is something that Mr Carswell ruled out on the day after the election, telling the Times "I am not going to be running as leader."
And this isn't the first time.
The latest rows are part of a rich history of infighting in the party.
In 2013 the Chief Executive of the party Will Gilpin left by "mutual agreement". When he left he said the party's reluctance to undergo the reforms to turn it into a "professional political party" means it will remain "a bunch of enthusiastic amateurs."
His comments from two years ago ring rather true today: "The thing I am most shocked by is that Nigel [Farage, Ukip's leader] does his own thing without the party knowing where he is or what he is doing."
Nigel does his own thing without the party knowing where he is or what he is doing
Will Gilpin, former Ukip chief executive in 2013
Mr Carswell was not happy with this and only knew about it when Laura Pitel from the Times showed him the news on her phone.
An email quoted by the Mail claimed that Ukip election candidates were told by head of candidates David Soutter to send supportive messages about Mr Farage ahead of a meeting.
Money, Money Money: 13 May 2015
Douglas Carswell announced publicly that UKIP in parliament does not need £650,000 of taxpayers’ money to run a parliamentary operation. He said that spending the money - owed to Ukip because it won almost four million votes and became a major party - would be the behavior of an "American senator".
Snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive Farage: 14 May 2015
Patrick O'Flynn the former political editor of The Express and the party's economic spokesman said that Mr Farage was risking turning the party into a "personality cult".
He also attacked senior aides within the party and told The Times "aggressive" and "inexperienced" staffers must be cleared out.
'Make Carswell leader': 14 May 2015
Godfrey Bloom, the controversial figure who left the party after referring to women as "sluts", said Mr Carswell should step forward and lead. This prospect is something that Mr Carswell ruled out on the day after the election, telling the Times "I am not going to be running as leader."
And this isn't the first time.
The latest rows are part of a rich history of infighting in the party.
In 2013 the Chief Executive of the party Will Gilpin left by "mutual agreement". When he left he said the party's reluctance to undergo the reforms to turn it into a "professional political party" means it will remain "a bunch of enthusiastic amateurs."
His comments from two years ago ring rather true today: "The thing I am most shocked by is that Nigel [Farage, Ukip's leader] does his own thing without the party knowing where he is or what he is doing."
to Al Murray [ the pub landlord ] as the waited for the announcement of the votes in Thanet South
' I bet I've been in more pubs than you ... '
' I bet I've been in more pubs than you ... '
be back in 3 days
he resigned 8 hours ago
Where are the labour stories ?
Where are the labour stories ?
BBC luvvies been having orgasms all day over this. 
A few UKIPPERs speak out and suddenly UKIP are in meltdown.
Here to stay and gathering momentum.
Here to stay and gathering momentum.
It is so funny. They have disagreements within the party. You should have tried Labour when I was in it 60s 70s and 80s - now they were REAL disagreements. And then they ditched any socialism left.
The media are all over this like a wet dream - it is really hilarious. They actually think UKIP will disappear!!!!
But it is a good idea to call barrage to account and look at how to expand the party and its appeal. You cannot rely on one person but then he is the figure head. A lot of people must have worked hard for UKIP to get them where they are.
Carswell doing some stirring/trying to get the leadership??
The media are all over this like a wet dream - it is really hilarious. They actually think UKIP will disappear!!!!
But it is a good idea to call barrage to account and look at how to expand the party and its appeal. You cannot rely on one person but then he is the figure head. A lot of people must have worked hard for UKIP to get them where they are.
Carswell doing some stirring/trying to get the leadership??
Ibrahima Sonko
14 May 15 17:58
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You have to laugh at the way the bbc and others are getting excited over a non story.
You can always tell how much something is bothering the bbc by how much time and effort they spend on it, and they have gone into freak mode over UKIPS affairs.
Some of the bbc’s presenters have even being smiling with glee at news of so called troubles others can’t disguise their hatred of UKIP.
14 May 15 17:58
Joined: 03 Jun 07
| Topic/replies: 55,251 | Blogger: Ibrahima Sonko's blog
You have to laugh at the way the bbc and others are getting excited over a non story.
You can always tell how much something is bothering the bbc by how much time and effort they spend on it, and they have gone into freak mode over UKIPS affairs.
Some of the bbc’s presenters have even being smiling with glee at news of so called troubles others can’t disguise their hatred of UKIP.
UKIP will remain a minor irritant, like a pimple on the backside of Politics
unlike Labour who are a great big festering abscess. Nice mess they have left the country in.
for someone who doesn't like being in Europe Farage has a German wife and a former wife who is Irish.
He is against the EU not Europe or European people, you do know there is a difference don't you?
of course he is against EU people, every sentence out of his mouth for years has been no to EU immigration. How he doesnt like hearing foreign languages on the train, doesnt want to live next to them etc etc etc ad nauseam
Brendan,
he also said he doesnt blame any of the immigrants for coming, he would if he was in their shoes, but doesnt think they should be allowed to unless its an Australian points based system
he also said he doesnt blame any of the immigrants for coming, he would if he was in their shoes, but doesnt think they should be allowed to unless its an Australian points based system
@brendouk if he is against European people how come he is married to one? It's the open door immigration system amongst other issues of the EU that he is against.
May 17, 2015 -- 3:09AM, macarony wrote:
@brendouk if he is against European people how come he is married to one? It's the open door immigration system amongst other issues of the EU that he is against.
because he is full of sh!te, hth
Why has he said hearing a foreign language on a train make him feel 'awkward' 
Suppose its same as when his wife phones home
Doesnt mention "points sytem" there, or "open door policy" Hearing someone speak another language makes him feel "awkward" guy is a knob plain and simple
Suppose its same as when his wife phones home Doesnt mention "points sytem" there, or "open door policy" Hearing someone speak another language makes him feel "awkward" guy is a knob plain and simple
Brenduk somebody is full of sh1ght namely yourself.
If your on a train in your own country where that is here in Britain or anyone anywhere else in the world , and all around you are speaking a different language then you are going to feel the odd one out. Its a basic natural human reaction.
If your on a train in your own country where that is here in Britain or anyone anywhere else in the world , and all around you are speaking a different language then you are going to feel the odd one out. Its a basic natural human reaction.
for a ignorant racist yes
the tone of what he spouts is ignorant racism, its why the other senior members of ukip want rid of him. His views may resonate with you, but they turn off the vast majority of uk voting public, hence the single mp.
the tone of what he spouts is ignorant racism, its why the other senior members of ukip want rid of him. His views may resonate with you, but they turn off the vast majority of uk voting public, hence the single mp.
Trying to use the racist card again thought you lot would have come up with something new by now, I mean it’s not the 70s ,and it’s not a game of monopoly where crying racism is the equivalent of the get out of jail free card.
Like I say suppose you are an Indian in India, and all around you are speaking Chinese, and there have been many millions of people from different nationalities moved to India in a short space of time completely changing the look and feel of the area, then yes it is perfectly normal human reaction to feel uneasy about the pace of change and the direction your country is taking.
Now you can use this scenario for any other country in the world, the native population will always feel a degree of anxiety when faced with such rapid and uncalled for change.
Like I say suppose you are an Indian in India, and all around you are speaking Chinese, and there have been many millions of people from different nationalities moved to India in a short space of time completely changing the look and feel of the area, then yes it is perfectly normal human reaction to feel uneasy about the pace of change and the direction your country is taking.
Now you can use this scenario for any other country in the world, the native population will always feel a degree of anxiety when faced with such rapid and uncalled for change.
Should i feel awkward sitting next to his wife and her family on a train? does he?
She is European just like him, I don’t know about you, are you European?
Like he has said many times before he is against the EU not Europe, big difference.
Like he has said many times before he is against the EU not Europe, big difference.
All protest parties come and go, UKIP is no different.
The Greens have been around for a while all they need is a competent leader, and drop some of the crazy immigration stuff. And they would be far more appealing.
Anyway do you really want to carry on with the type of politicians that have dogged this county for decades?
Anyway do you really want to carry on with the type of politicians that have dogged this county for decades?
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