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As many as 70 deposit boxes were opened during a raid in London's jewellery quarter, police have said.
Burglars gained entry to Hatton Garden Safe Deposit over the Easter weekend. Scotland Yard was alerted on Tuesday.
Officers said a "slow and painstaking process" of forensically examining the scene was under way.
Ex-Flying Squad chief Roy Ramm has said he "would not be surprised" if the jewellery stolen during the raid was worth as much as £200m.
The Met, which has not yet commented on the worth of the jewellery stolen, said it was "photographing the scene and recovering exhibits in meticulous detail".
It said the burglars used heavy equipment to break into a vault used mainly by jewellers and gold dealers.
A spokesman said: "Officers are working closely with Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd to establish the identities of those affected.
"Police will be contacting victims directly as and when they are identified."
Mr Ramm told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "There's a sort of old-fashioned audacity about it.
"The amount of money and the goods that are taken is never fully revealed... and there's a good chance that not everybody would declare.
"I would not be surprised, given where this one is in Hatton Garden, if £200m is around about the amount stolen."
Norman Bean, who had a diamond ring and bracelets stored at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit, said he was told the burglars accessed the vault via a lift shaft.
"They went down the lift shaft, made a big hole in the wall, got into the safe deposit and I think they drilled into the boxes.
"They could have been there all weekend, who knows? It's a disgrace, it's like something out of a film," added Mr Bean.
Michael Miller fears he has lost £50,000 worth of jewellery
Michael Miller, a jeweller from Knightsbridge, said he "felt sick" at the prospect of losing up to £50,000 of uninsured jewellery and watches.
He said a £5,000 watch he bought for his son on the day he was born might have been stolen and he felt "dismay, shock and disbelief" when he heard the news.
Diamond jewellery expert Lewis Malka, who works in Hatton Garden, added: "With the robbers having probably four days over the Easter weekend, there's a good chance that they went through everything."
As many where in church over the weekend, seems others had a working weekend in the vaults......
step forward the flying squad CCDA to solve the crime of decade .....
Burglars gained entry to Hatton Garden Safe Deposit over the Easter weekend. Scotland Yard was alerted on Tuesday.
Officers said a "slow and painstaking process" of forensically examining the scene was under way.
Ex-Flying Squad chief Roy Ramm has said he "would not be surprised" if the jewellery stolen during the raid was worth as much as £200m.
The Met, which has not yet commented on the worth of the jewellery stolen, said it was "photographing the scene and recovering exhibits in meticulous detail".
It said the burglars used heavy equipment to break into a vault used mainly by jewellers and gold dealers.
A spokesman said: "Officers are working closely with Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd to establish the identities of those affected.
"Police will be contacting victims directly as and when they are identified."
Mr Ramm told BBC Radio 4's Today programme: "There's a sort of old-fashioned audacity about it.
"The amount of money and the goods that are taken is never fully revealed... and there's a good chance that not everybody would declare.
"I would not be surprised, given where this one is in Hatton Garden, if £200m is around about the amount stolen."
Norman Bean, who had a diamond ring and bracelets stored at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit, said he was told the burglars accessed the vault via a lift shaft.
"They went down the lift shaft, made a big hole in the wall, got into the safe deposit and I think they drilled into the boxes.
"They could have been there all weekend, who knows? It's a disgrace, it's like something out of a film," added Mr Bean.
Michael Miller fears he has lost £50,000 worth of jewellery
Michael Miller, a jeweller from Knightsbridge, said he "felt sick" at the prospect of losing up to £50,000 of uninsured jewellery and watches.
He said a £5,000 watch he bought for his son on the day he was born might have been stolen and he felt "dismay, shock and disbelief" when he heard the news.
Diamond jewellery expert Lewis Malka, who works in Hatton Garden, added: "With the robbers having probably four days over the Easter weekend, there's a good chance that they went through everything."
As many where in church over the weekend, seems others had a working weekend in the vaults......
step forward the flying squad CCDA to solve the crime of decade .....
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Seems 90% of the boxes were for jewellers but the others were rented by 'private individuals' . 1.01 that one of the private individuals is behind it as major criminals are big customers for safety deposit.
I would assume as the bank have no idea what's in the boxes, there can be no insurance claims.
When the Knightsbridge one happened in 1987 I recall reading 40% of the victims never came forward , presumably as the stuff stolen from them they had stolen themselves, or else was videos/letters they were using to blackmail people with. Will never know the value of this sort of raid.
I think we can rule out Noel Edmonds being with the gang. It would have taken a few weeks to open that many boxes.
only 8 comments since this came out yesterday? poor poor poor
no one hurt, some very wealthy people are now .... very wealthy still. Everyones a winner.
Apr 8, 2015 -- 11:42AM, desperatemunter wrote:
only 8 comments since this came out yesterday?
Fans of the BBC4 series 'Salamander' (set in Belgium) will be agog as to what might happen next.
The 'ffs' was not irritation at you , just the forum as I quoted you and posted something which didn't appear.
hmmm -... would be nice if there was a connection
Michael Miller, a jeweller from Knightsbridge, said he "felt sick" at the prospect of losing up to £50,000 of uninsured jewellery and watches.
well assuming he's not a major criminal, why wasn't he insured - no good crying into his beer now
well assuming he's not a major criminal, why wasn't he insured - no good crying into his beer now
oh absoluterly tober, I never thought otherwise - i posted 'lol tober' because youwere making the same point, a badly overdue point, as i had just made.
(soz ; 'look', not 'lool' which sounds like drunk teenager-speak0
Inside job - Nap. The fire was on the Wednesday night wasn't it, but are we thinking that could have weakened the alarm in some way?
Sexy Beast one of my favorite films - hope this went down just the same way they did it in the fillum
Havent seen Ray winstone on my tellybox for a good few days now... very sus.
inside help for sure, they had to knew where to blow through the lift shaft to access the vault
Odd how people cheer this. But I'm sure they are a bunch of loveable rogues who would never harm anyone who stood in their way and no doubt they all love their muvvers.
Lets hope its not foreigners...coming over here stealing our jobs , stealing.
These robbers are way too clever for the old bill. Good luck to them , hope they never get caught.
These robbers are way too clever for the old bill. Good luck to them , hope they never get caught.
A lot like the Bankers Gawd Bless em
A lot like the Bankers Gawd Bless em
pandora1963
08 Apr 15 19:00
These robbers are way too clever for the old bill. Good luck to them , hope they never get caught.
Would you like to change your mind?
I've heard they're UKIP voters.
08 Apr 15 19:00
These robbers are way too clever for the old bill. Good luck to them , hope they never get caught.
Would you like to change your mind?
I've heard they're UKIP voters.
True, bankers don't cover you in petrol and burn you alive if you don't open the safe.
..." its like something out of a film " said mr bean.......
You'd think that they would learn. It's not the first time that the long Easter break has been put to good use!
One bloke being interviewed outside was a bloke called Gerry Landon, I used to play in a football team with him nearly 30 years ago, chances are most have not had their deposit boxes touched, their are hundreds in that place I doubt they opened more than 25% of them.
even old warehouses have real guards. Cant believe this lot just lock up and go home for 3 days
They had a security guard who heard the alarm, peered through the window, and decided he did not get paid enough to risk going inside.
Which is fair enough but apparently he also did not get paid enough to call the police.
Which is fair enough but apparently he also did not get paid enough to call the police.
People who need safety deposit boxes have something to hide. Hence no insurance cover. Now they've lost it all. Oh dear, what a shame !
I think a lot of the businesses in Hatton Garden would use this place for supposed safety & convenience & though some of those interviewed said they had no insurance I would reckon that is not the case with a large percentage of box holders, if this was an inside job I suspect the people involved may well have known which boxes to empty out rather than using pot luck.
A burglar alarm briefly sounded on Good Friday but it was claimed that police who attended the scene did not fully investigate after noticing nothing amiss.
The sound of drilling and metal sawing could also have been ignored by local traders and residents because they assumed that it was tunnelling work for Crossrail, which had sent letters warning about tunnelling and demolition works while a new ticketing hall at Farringdon station, a few hundred yards away, was being built.
sailing very close to the wind.
The sound of drilling and metal sawing could also have been ignored by local traders and residents because they assumed that it was tunnelling work for Crossrail, which had sent letters warning about tunnelling and demolition works while a new ticketing hall at Farringdon station, a few hundred yards away, was being built.
sailing very close to the wind.
Apr 8, 2015 -- 11:59AM, Clouseau wrote:
Holburn fire got something to do with it (nap)
good call according to senior police sources.
no one cares...
its not like old skool way that you watch in 70s/80s movies...
Now its more like Oceans 12 (and that movie sucked), bankrolled by people who are already millionairs.
its not like old skool way that you watch in 70s/80s movies...
Now its more like Oceans 12 (and that movie sucked), bankrolled by people who are already millionairs.
can you imagine how many stolen jewels have just been robbed again in that heist.
One bloke being interviewed outside was a bloke called Gerry Landon
He was obviously the Brains , the Security guard got a cheap Bung , whilst Vinnie Jones & Noel Edmonds went to Work
He was obviously the Brains , the Security guard got a cheap Bung , whilst Vinnie Jones & Noel Edmonds went to Work
I don't think I'd ever put anything valuable, in a location with a virtual sign over it saying "loot".
Where there's a will there's often a way.
Where there's a will there's often a way.
There seems to be some interest in the 2 Sudanese directors of the SD Co.
Facts 09 Apr 15 09:03
People who need safety deposit boxes have something to hide. Hence no insurance cover. Now they've lost it all. Oh dear, what a shame !
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An stupid post even for chit chat.
The security does seem incredibly lax, how hard is it to install a few CCTVs these days in a place full of high value stuff? Also any alarm that's not from poundland will be zoned so any callout should tell you exactly where it's been triggered, you'd think any procedure would be to check the triggered zone not give the door a kick.
The place seems to have been run by a bunch of t*ts..
People who need safety deposit boxes have something to hide. Hence no insurance cover. Now they've lost it all. Oh dear, what a shame !
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An stupid post even for chit chat.
The security does seem incredibly lax, how hard is it to install a few CCTVs these days in a place full of high value stuff? Also any alarm that's not from poundland will be zoned so any callout should tell you exactly where it's been triggered, you'd think any procedure would be to check the triggered zone not give the door a kick.
The place seems to have been run by a bunch of t*ts..
There was CCTV but they knicked the hard drive from it, didn't they?
Anyway, they'll have to catch them all soon or it's going to be very hard to cast the film when no one knows what they look or sound like.
Anyway, they'll have to catch them all soon or it's going to be very hard to cast the film when no one knows what they look or sound like.
I mean live CCTV. It's a very cheap technology these days.
And if the CCTV is only stored right there (and not uploaded to a secondary location), why not have a case open / interference alarm on it? It just all sounds done on the cheap with old technology, and not very well done at that .
And if the CCTV is only stored right there (and not uploaded to a secondary location), why not have a case open / interference alarm on it? It just all sounds done on the cheap with old technology, and not very well done at that .
Yes it does sound like it was all veneer and underneath a dodgy set of circumstances waiting to be exploited.
For a period in my life I used to have a safe-deposit box in Knightsbridge, but when the annual fees exceeded the value of the contents I shut up shop. I believe it was subsequently robbed. Glad to think I saved the perps the trauma of opening my box. I know from bitter experience that disappointment is hard to handle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bank_Job
The Bank Job is a 2008 British crime film written by Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais, directed by Roger Donaldson, and starring Jason Statham,
based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery in central London, from which the money and valuables stolen were never recovered.
The producers allege that the story was prevented from being told in 1971 because of a D-Notice government gagging request, allegedly to protect a prominent member of the British Royal Family.
According to the producers, this movie is intended to reveal the truth for the first time.
The Bank Job is a 2008 British crime film written by Dick Clement and Ian La Frenais, directed by Roger Donaldson, and starring Jason Statham,
based on the 1971 Baker Street robbery in central London, from which the money and valuables stolen were never recovered.
The producers allege that the story was prevented from being told in 1971 because of a D-Notice government gagging request, allegedly to protect a prominent member of the British Royal Family.
According to the producers, this movie is intended to reveal the truth for the first time.
In 2008 police raided three safe deposit box centres in London as part of an investigation into claims that criminal networks were using them to store the proceeds of crime.
Inside 3,497 boxes, officers found more than £50m in cash as well as five handguns, cannabis, heroin and crack, gold bars, child abuse images, three paintings by 17th Century Dutch artists, jewellery and fake passports.
Inside 3,497 boxes, officers found more than £50m in cash as well as five handguns, cannabis, heroin and crack, gold bars, child abuse images, three paintings by 17th Century Dutch artists, jewellery and fake passports.
I was there today, clearly an inside job, I would say the previous false alarms at the building which resulted in the police not bothering to deal with this alarm, were infact part of the plot. Next to no public appeal for witnesses etc, which tells you they all ready know who they're after.
Everyone knows the tale of the alarm who cried drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
someone in the police must have known the company was on the alarm list to ignore.
otherwise the plan falls down on that alone.
otherwise the plan falls down on that alone.
Aye, its not like anybody has ever broken into a bank vault over the Easter weekend! Oh! Hang on a minute, let me think on that!
Hatton garden jewellery heist
Conservatives now able to fund the health service to the tune of 8 billion
coincidence?
Conservatives now able to fund the health service to the tune of 8 billion
coincidence?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2679046/No-cops-robbers-Flying-Squad-numbers-cut-thieves-old-school-bank-robberies-turn-high-tech-cyber-crime-instead.html
No more cops and robbers?
Flying Squad numbers cut as thieves give up old-school bank robberies and turn to high-tech cyber-crime instead
Metropolitan Police cuts almost 50 Flying Squad officers in a single year
Armed crime unit now has 112 officers and has lost two of its bases
The unit was made famous by the 1970s police drama The Sweeney
Bank robberies have fallen from 847 a year in 1992 to just 108 in 2012
Now criminals prefer sophisticated raids on using computer technology
Card fraud is also on the rise, with £450million stolen from victims in 2013
No more cops and robbers?
Flying Squad numbers cut as thieves give up old-school bank robberies and turn to high-tech cyber-crime instead
Metropolitan Police cuts almost 50 Flying Squad officers in a single year
Armed crime unit now has 112 officers and has lost two of its bases
The unit was made famous by the 1970s police drama The Sweeney
Bank robberies have fallen from 847 a year in 1992 to just 108 in 2012
Now criminals prefer sophisticated raids on using computer technology
Card fraud is also on the rise, with £450million stolen from victims in 2013
Bank alarms need to be bought into the 21st century.
Should be accompanied by instant texts sent to the local police station "Our security guard has been racially abused"
Guaranteed police presence within 5 minutes.
Should be accompanied by instant texts sent to the local police station "Our security guard has been racially abused"
Guaranteed police presence within 5 minutes.
now we learn that the theives went away overnight and came back the next day to finish the job.
proper british workers. i don't work nights unless it's clear I'm getting a night-premium either
Police said 72 of the 999 safety deposit boxes were opened. Of those, seven were empty. Police have so far contacted 42 owners and are trying to reach the remaining victims.
Police in France are also investigating whether the gang is behind a £6.4 million gems heist involving two security lorries last month.
How the heist unfolded
20.19, Thursday, April 2 Staff at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd, which provides “secure” storage for their clients’ “irreplaceable personal belongings”, lock up for the Easter weekend. The company, normally opens Monday to Friday, is not due to reopen until Tuesday morning because of the bank holiday. Hatton Garden, in which many Jewish-run diamond jewellers operate, is especially quiet because Easter coincides with the Jewish festival of Passover
20.23 Four minutes later, the gang moves in. CCTV footage, made public yesterday, shows the first gang member arriving at a rear fire-exit door, reached through a narrow alley. Police later confirm there was no sign of forced entry. Dubbed Mr Ginger because of his red hair, seen beneath a black cap, the man wears latex gloves, a blue jacket and dark trousers. He is carrying a black bin bag
20.27 A second CCTV camera captures a white Ford Transit van driving down Greville Street, around the corner from the front entrance to Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd. It pulls up at the entrance to the side alley that offers access to a rear fire exit door into the communal building housing the safe deposit boxes. Men drag wheelie bins down the alley before the van leaves
20.30 A second gang member, nicknamed the Gent because of his smart brown shoes, arrives carrying a large holdall. He has on a balaclava, a hard hat and a high-visibility jacket
20.31 The gang member dubbed Mr Strong appears at the back door. He has steel supports and wears a hard hat. The supports may serve to hold in place the diamond-tipped drill used to break into the vault. Mr Strong and the Gent then carry more tools into the building
20.36 A fourth man appears. Wearing a black sweatshirt bearing the words “Montana 93”, the man – Mr Montana – enters the building. He and Mr Strong drag in wheelie bins. One is thought to contain the 77lb drill used to bore through a 7ft reinforced concrete wall giving access to the basement vaults
00.21, Friday April 3 An intruder alarm is set off at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd. The Southern Monitoring Alarm Company contacts the Metropolitan Police’s Central Communications Command. Police record the call but decide no response is needed – a decision now being internally investigated
01.00 Mr Ginger is seen by the back door. There is no more movement above ground for almost seven hours. Inside the building, the gang disable the lift, leaving it on the second floor. They use the lift shaft to reach the basement, where the safe deposit boxes are held. They force open shutter doors into the company’s offices and bore holes into the vault wall using a Hilti DD350 drill
07.51 The gang resurface after a night inside the premises. Mr Ginger leaves with two purple holdalls. Mr Montana carries out two red tool boxes. Footage shows him with a shaved head and possibly an earring. A minute later, the Gent briefly appears with a red monkey wrench and bolt cutters
08.02 The Gent emerges again with a black bucket of tools. Mr Montana and Mr Strong come up and put the tools in a bag
08.05 CCTV gives a first glimpse of the Old Man, a grey-haired gang member, who emerges from the side door
08.12 The white transit van pulls up in the alley. The gang load it with tools and drive off. Saturday is a normal working day and the streets around Hatton Garden will be busier than on Good Friday and Easter Sunday. The gang are not seen again on CCTV for 38 hours
22.17, Saturday April 4
Mr Ginger is back, again wearing latex gloves and carrying a black bin bag
22.32 CCTV captures a first glimpse of the Tall Man. He wears a flat cap and carries a blue Nike bag and a red tool box. The Old Man joins him. No other gang members are seen and for the next seven hours the gang drill through the vault walls, forcing open up to 70 safe deposit boxes
05.46, Sunday April 5 The Tall Man, wearing an adidas top, emerges from the fire exit door carrying two red tools
06.01 Mr Ginger, the Tall Man and the Old Man drag a wheelie bin outside. It is a struggle and the Old Man looks out of breath
06.10 They reappear with another wheelie bin. The Tall Man makes four more trips in and out the fire exit with bags
06.12 A moped pulls up on Greville Street. Moped Man walks down the alley, returns 20 minutes later and drives off
06.41 The white van returns at the alley entrance and the gang start loading wheelie bins into it. Three men get into the white van, which then drives off. The heist is complete
08.10, Tuesday April 7 A full 48 hours after the gang have fled, police are called to the company, following a report of a burglary. They find a “chaotic” scene. The vault is covered in debris and the floor “strewn with discarded safe deposit boxes and numerous power tools, including an angle grinder, concrete drills and crowbars”. It is thought the mob left with goods, likely to include jewels, cash and other items, worth more than £60 million
Police in France are also investigating whether the gang is behind a £6.4 million gems heist involving two security lorries last month.
How the heist unfolded
20.19, Thursday, April 2 Staff at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd, which provides “secure” storage for their clients’ “irreplaceable personal belongings”, lock up for the Easter weekend. The company, normally opens Monday to Friday, is not due to reopen until Tuesday morning because of the bank holiday. Hatton Garden, in which many Jewish-run diamond jewellers operate, is especially quiet because Easter coincides with the Jewish festival of Passover
20.23 Four minutes later, the gang moves in. CCTV footage, made public yesterday, shows the first gang member arriving at a rear fire-exit door, reached through a narrow alley. Police later confirm there was no sign of forced entry. Dubbed Mr Ginger because of his red hair, seen beneath a black cap, the man wears latex gloves, a blue jacket and dark trousers. He is carrying a black bin bag
20.27 A second CCTV camera captures a white Ford Transit van driving down Greville Street, around the corner from the front entrance to Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd. It pulls up at the entrance to the side alley that offers access to a rear fire exit door into the communal building housing the safe deposit boxes. Men drag wheelie bins down the alley before the van leaves
20.30 A second gang member, nicknamed the Gent because of his smart brown shoes, arrives carrying a large holdall. He has on a balaclava, a hard hat and a high-visibility jacket
20.31 The gang member dubbed Mr Strong appears at the back door. He has steel supports and wears a hard hat. The supports may serve to hold in place the diamond-tipped drill used to break into the vault. Mr Strong and the Gent then carry more tools into the building
20.36 A fourth man appears. Wearing a black sweatshirt bearing the words “Montana 93”, the man – Mr Montana – enters the building. He and Mr Strong drag in wheelie bins. One is thought to contain the 77lb drill used to bore through a 7ft reinforced concrete wall giving access to the basement vaults
00.21, Friday April 3 An intruder alarm is set off at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Ltd. The Southern Monitoring Alarm Company contacts the Metropolitan Police’s Central Communications Command. Police record the call but decide no response is needed – a decision now being internally investigated
01.00 Mr Ginger is seen by the back door. There is no more movement above ground for almost seven hours. Inside the building, the gang disable the lift, leaving it on the second floor. They use the lift shaft to reach the basement, where the safe deposit boxes are held. They force open shutter doors into the company’s offices and bore holes into the vault wall using a Hilti DD350 drill
07.51 The gang resurface after a night inside the premises. Mr Ginger leaves with two purple holdalls. Mr Montana carries out two red tool boxes. Footage shows him with a shaved head and possibly an earring. A minute later, the Gent briefly appears with a red monkey wrench and bolt cutters
08.02 The Gent emerges again with a black bucket of tools. Mr Montana and Mr Strong come up and put the tools in a bag
08.05 CCTV gives a first glimpse of the Old Man, a grey-haired gang member, who emerges from the side door
08.12 The white transit van pulls up in the alley. The gang load it with tools and drive off. Saturday is a normal working day and the streets around Hatton Garden will be busier than on Good Friday and Easter Sunday. The gang are not seen again on CCTV for 38 hours
22.17, Saturday April 4
Mr Ginger is back, again wearing latex gloves and carrying a black bin bag
22.32 CCTV captures a first glimpse of the Tall Man. He wears a flat cap and carries a blue Nike bag and a red tool box. The Old Man joins him. No other gang members are seen and for the next seven hours the gang drill through the vault walls, forcing open up to 70 safe deposit boxes
05.46, Sunday April 5 The Tall Man, wearing an adidas top, emerges from the fire exit door carrying two red tools
06.01 Mr Ginger, the Tall Man and the Old Man drag a wheelie bin outside. It is a struggle and the Old Man looks out of breath
06.10 They reappear with another wheelie bin. The Tall Man makes four more trips in and out the fire exit with bags
06.12 A moped pulls up on Greville Street. Moped Man walks down the alley, returns 20 minutes later and drives off
06.41 The white van returns at the alley entrance and the gang start loading wheelie bins into it. Three men get into the white van, which then drives off. The heist is complete
08.10, Tuesday April 7 A full 48 hours after the gang have fled, police are called to the company, following a report of a burglary. They find a “chaotic” scene. The vault is covered in debris and the floor “strewn with discarded safe deposit boxes and numerous power tools, including an angle grinder, concrete drills and crowbars”. It is thought the mob left with goods, likely to include jewels, cash and other items, worth more than £60 million
they worked a bank Holiday - everyone should get a little extra for that. It's only right.
sound like they may have stolen from the wrong type of people,maybe trouble for the robbers.
that post above is classic. The Gent. The Tall Man. Mr Strong. pmsl.
there is no wrong type of people when your a thief.
these people will be able to look after themselves barrowboy - and they will be intensely aware of who and what kind of people they have stolen from.
they wouldn't have done the job if they thought they would bring something upon themselves that they couldn't handle.
Got to be a muslim gang of robbers.
Probably from Rotherham or Sheffield or anywhere really.
Police don't want to be seen as causing disharmony, so let it go.
Probably from Rotherham or Sheffield or anywhere really.
Police don't want to be seen as causing disharmony, so let it go.
thanks tictac, does anyone know about these industrial drills?, able to drill through 6ft thick walls.!!
that alone must have been some feat of engineering !
that alone must have been some feat of engineering !
look at mememe - some people so utterly obsessed by the race issue they'll introduce it into anything. do one u eejit.
mememe's life must be absolutely dominated by fear blecks
desperatemunter,
I take it then you know who did it.
Lot of intense posting by you ... it wasn't you, was it?
Go on, tell us. We can keep a secret on the forum.
I take it then you know who did it.
Lot of intense posting by you ... it wasn't you, was it?
Go on, tell us. We can keep a secret on the forum.
The Adams family will be annoyed
Londons most criminal gang who reign round there
Contracts will be issued
Shoot on sight
Londons most criminal gang who reign round there
Contracts will be issued
Shoot on sight
sorry for being offensive mememew. uncalled for.
desperatemunter,
I've just won a few quid on the 16.20 at Leopardstown so I feel I can forgive you.
Your humility is appreciated ... but I wouldn't make a habit of it on the Betfair forums - you'll get eaten alive.
It really is a jungle. Living proof of Darwinism at its finest.
I've just won a few quid on the 16.20 at Leopardstown so I feel I can forgive you.
Your humility is appreciated ... but I wouldn't make a habit of it on the Betfair forums - you'll get eaten alive.
It really is a jungle. Living proof of Darwinism at its finest.
you're very right there . i'm no good at hostilities its not my style at all.
I've just acheived a winning position in the goalfest currently underway at old Trafford. Cheers to us and trebles all round.
You can't trust CCTV footage, they can doctor it.
59 isn't old, and I haven't got grey hair.
59 isn't old, and I haven't got grey hair.
Police are believed to have identified one of the men behind the jewel heist in Hatton Garden, as it was revealed the gang could have been inspired by similar robberies in Los Angeles in the 1980s.
Officers from Scotland Yard's Flying Squad released images of three suspects on Saturday, but refused to release a picture of the supposed ringleader, likely because he has already been identified
The diamond-tipped drills were taken from a building site in Fetter Lane, an eight minute walk from Hatton Garden.
City of London Police also confirmed today that they have passed information to Scotland Yard about the theft of two Hilti drills, the same devices used in the Hatton Garden raid, in December last year.
In another development, The Sun has revealed that £80,000 worth of diamond tipped drills were stolen from another site in South London in November, using a van similar to that at Hatton Garden.
Could the net be closing in.......
Officers from Scotland Yard's Flying Squad released images of three suspects on Saturday, but refused to release a picture of the supposed ringleader, likely because he has already been identified
The diamond-tipped drills were taken from a building site in Fetter Lane, an eight minute walk from Hatton Garden.
City of London Police also confirmed today that they have passed information to Scotland Yard about the theft of two Hilti drills, the same devices used in the Hatton Garden raid, in December last year.
In another development, The Sun has revealed that £80,000 worth of diamond tipped drills were stolen from another site in South London in November, using a van similar to that at Hatton Garden.
Could the net be closing in.......
The Hilti drills - identical to the model used in the Hatton Garden raid - along with drill bits and other cutting equipment were stolen from a building site on Fetter Lane on December 1.
CCTV captured two Ford vans suspected of being linked to the theft and two suspects seen near the scene of the crime.
Jeremy Lewington, the operations manager of Elmcrest Diamond Drilling, said the equipment was highly specialist and only a few hundred people in the UK were trained to operate it.
He said: “Someone obviously knew what they were looking for when they took these drills. Whoever did this robbery knew what they were doing, it was obviously well planned.
“It was a specialist job and needed people with the right training. The number of people who can do this is limited to maybe a few hundred in this country and maybe 500 to 600 in Europe.”
He said the drills were designed to cut through concrete and steel.
A City police spokesman said: “Since the robbery at Hatton Gardens, the City of London Police have been in contact with the Metropolitan Police about the thefts.”
Scotland Yard has released CCTV images of only three of up to six members of the gang involved in the raid.
CCTV captured two Ford vans suspected of being linked to the theft and two suspects seen near the scene of the crime.
Jeremy Lewington, the operations manager of Elmcrest Diamond Drilling, said the equipment was highly specialist and only a few hundred people in the UK were trained to operate it.
He said: “Someone obviously knew what they were looking for when they took these drills. Whoever did this robbery knew what they were doing, it was obviously well planned.
“It was a specialist job and needed people with the right training. The number of people who can do this is limited to maybe a few hundred in this country and maybe 500 to 600 in Europe.”
He said the drills were designed to cut through concrete and steel.
A City police spokesman said: “Since the robbery at Hatton Gardens, the City of London Police have been in contact with the Metropolitan Police about the thefts.”
Scotland Yard has released CCTV images of only three of up to six members of the gang involved in the raid.
Police have offered a £20,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of all those involved in the Hatton Garden safety deposit burglary.
Detectives released for the first time an image of the Hilti DD350 drill that was used during the burglary.
The power tool was used by a gang of six men captured on CCTV carrying out the audacious raid over the Easter Bank Holiday weekend.
Appearing on the BBC's Crimewatch, Detective Superintendent Craig Turner, head of the Flying Squad, said that the theft had been carried out by an "almost Ocean's 11 type team".
Mr Turner said: "This was a particularly ambitious burglary to say the least and has affected so many victims.
"People's property has been taken, people's pensions, people's heirlooms which obviously can't be replaced by insurance firms.
"We may well be misled - this is carried out by an almost Ocean's 11 type team, but in essence there are victims behind this and these are callous thieves."
Mr Turner appealed for members of the public who may have been in the Hatton Garden area during the theft and who may have seen anything suspicious to come forward.
Describing the drill that had been found at the scene as a "specialised bit of equipment", he called for members of the criminal community who may have seen the gang in possession of it to get in touch.
There are still six victims who have not been identified yet by police, Mr Turner said.
"I appeal to any of those victims who haven't been contacted by police to contact the incident room," he added.
The extraordinary raid was executed at the Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Company over four days between Thursday April 2 and Sunday April 5.
It was only discovered when staff returned on Tuesday April 7 following the long Bank Holiday break.
Officers believe the gang entered the building, which houses a number of businesses, through a communal entrance before disabling the lift so they could climb down the lift shaft to the basement.
They forced open shutter doors and bored a hole 20in (50cm) deep, 10in (25cm) high, and 18in (45cm) into the vault wall where they then had free access to the safety deposit boxes.
A total of 72 boxes were opened during the burglary, with reports that the contents may have been worth as much as £60 million.
Meanwhile, Scotland Yard is reviewing why officers were not sent to investigate an intruder alarm set off at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit shortly after midnight on the Friday.
A call was received by the force's Computer Aided Despatch system from the security company but no police response was deemed necessary.
Like we needed more proof that the police force are not fit for purpose.
Detectives released for the first time an image of the Hilti DD350 drill that was used during the burglary.
The power tool was used by a gang of six men captured on CCTV carrying out the audacious raid over the Easter Bank Holiday weekend.
Appearing on the BBC's Crimewatch, Detective Superintendent Craig Turner, head of the Flying Squad, said that the theft had been carried out by an "almost Ocean's 11 type team".
Mr Turner said: "This was a particularly ambitious burglary to say the least and has affected so many victims.
"People's property has been taken, people's pensions, people's heirlooms which obviously can't be replaced by insurance firms.
"We may well be misled - this is carried out by an almost Ocean's 11 type team, but in essence there are victims behind this and these are callous thieves."
Mr Turner appealed for members of the public who may have been in the Hatton Garden area during the theft and who may have seen anything suspicious to come forward.
Describing the drill that had been found at the scene as a "specialised bit of equipment", he called for members of the criminal community who may have seen the gang in possession of it to get in touch.
There are still six victims who have not been identified yet by police, Mr Turner said.
"I appeal to any of those victims who haven't been contacted by police to contact the incident room," he added.
The extraordinary raid was executed at the Hatton Garden Safe Deposit Company over four days between Thursday April 2 and Sunday April 5.
It was only discovered when staff returned on Tuesday April 7 following the long Bank Holiday break.
Officers believe the gang entered the building, which houses a number of businesses, through a communal entrance before disabling the lift so they could climb down the lift shaft to the basement.
They forced open shutter doors and bored a hole 20in (50cm) deep, 10in (25cm) high, and 18in (45cm) into the vault wall where they then had free access to the safety deposit boxes.
A total of 72 boxes were opened during the burglary, with reports that the contents may have been worth as much as £60 million.
Meanwhile, Scotland Yard is reviewing why officers were not sent to investigate an intruder alarm set off at Hatton Garden Safe Deposit shortly after midnight on the Friday.
A call was received by the force's Computer Aided Despatch system from the security company but no police response was deemed necessary.
Like we needed more proof that the police force are not fit for purpose.
Looks like they might have done the same thing in Berlin in 2013......
Dramatic images which reveal the daring methods used by thieves during the £60m Hatton Garden heist have raised further questions about whether the culprits carried out a similarly-audacious raid on a Berlin bank two years earlier.
Pictures released by Scotland Yard this morning, nearly three weeks after the incident, reveal the gaping 50-cm deep hole which the suspects carefully drilled into the vault's concrete wall so they could access the goldmine of gems over the Easter weekend.
The photo is almost identical to the image released by German police following an unsolved raid on the Volksbank in 2013, when thieves escaped with a £8.3m haul of diamonds, gold and silver after cutting through a 3ft wall into the bank's strongroom and ransacking 294 security vaults.
Today, former flying squad detective Jim Dickie said he had 'little doubt' that Scotland Yard detectives would be liaising with their German counterparts about the Berlin raid as a 'legitimate line of enquiry'.
The German thieves dressed as workmen and and waited until staff went home for the weekend to enter the bank.
The tunnel was not discovered until 6am on the Monday morning when the robbers set fire to the impressive tunnel which breached one of the bank's walls. The robbers then simply used crowbars to smash open the safety deposit boxes.
CCTV from the London heist also shows how the suspects dressed as construction workers and gasmen. Similarly, they timed their raid over the Easter bank holiday, entering after the premises emptied on Thursday night and leaving on Easter Sunday.
Meanwhile, in Berlin, police believe the robbers may have spent weeks digging the tunnel after renting a nearby lock-up garage under a false name, which they used to gain access to the strongroom.
One of the theories behind the London jewel heist is that a member of the gang had rented a space within the premises. The Hatton Garden Safe Deposit company is housed in a seven-storey building, which accommodates 60 other businesses, including watch traders and diamond wholesalers.
Peter Kirkham, a former DCI with the Met Police who worked for the Flying Squad for five years in the mid-90s, said the photos supported his belief that the London heist 'reeked' of an inside job.
He said: 'We were told that that they went in five or 10 minutes after the last member of staff came out, and not even a two-bit burglar would do something like that, let alone somebody attempting something like this. It stinks of an inside agent.
'And it's more their confidence that they would not be disturbed. I mean I have never seen a job where they have taken a break, had a day off, and come back.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3050458/Inside-Hatton-Garden-gem-heist-Pictures-reveal-audacious-thieves-drilled-concrete-wall-left-dozens-deposit-boxes-strewn-floor.html#ixzz3YBmGrIeH
Dramatic images which reveal the daring methods used by thieves during the £60m Hatton Garden heist have raised further questions about whether the culprits carried out a similarly-audacious raid on a Berlin bank two years earlier.
Pictures released by Scotland Yard this morning, nearly three weeks after the incident, reveal the gaping 50-cm deep hole which the suspects carefully drilled into the vault's concrete wall so they could access the goldmine of gems over the Easter weekend.
The photo is almost identical to the image released by German police following an unsolved raid on the Volksbank in 2013, when thieves escaped with a £8.3m haul of diamonds, gold and silver after cutting through a 3ft wall into the bank's strongroom and ransacking 294 security vaults.
Today, former flying squad detective Jim Dickie said he had 'little doubt' that Scotland Yard detectives would be liaising with their German counterparts about the Berlin raid as a 'legitimate line of enquiry'.
The German thieves dressed as workmen and and waited until staff went home for the weekend to enter the bank.
The tunnel was not discovered until 6am on the Monday morning when the robbers set fire to the impressive tunnel which breached one of the bank's walls. The robbers then simply used crowbars to smash open the safety deposit boxes.
CCTV from the London heist also shows how the suspects dressed as construction workers and gasmen. Similarly, they timed their raid over the Easter bank holiday, entering after the premises emptied on Thursday night and leaving on Easter Sunday.
Meanwhile, in Berlin, police believe the robbers may have spent weeks digging the tunnel after renting a nearby lock-up garage under a false name, which they used to gain access to the strongroom.
One of the theories behind the London jewel heist is that a member of the gang had rented a space within the premises. The Hatton Garden Safe Deposit company is housed in a seven-storey building, which accommodates 60 other businesses, including watch traders and diamond wholesalers.
Peter Kirkham, a former DCI with the Met Police who worked for the Flying Squad for five years in the mid-90s, said the photos supported his belief that the London heist 'reeked' of an inside job.
He said: 'We were told that that they went in five or 10 minutes after the last member of staff came out, and not even a two-bit burglar would do something like that, let alone somebody attempting something like this. It stinks of an inside agent.
'And it's more their confidence that they would not be disturbed. I mean I have never seen a job where they have taken a break, had a day off, and come back.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3050458/Inside-Hatton-Garden-gem-heist-Pictures-reveal-audacious-thieves-drilled-concrete-wall-left-dozens-deposit-boxes-strewn-floor.html#ixzz3YBmGrIeH
looked like they knew what boxes to go for
hopefully have it covered with some documents
done nothing wrong imo , old timers classic will be a film in the future also
the ones in the 70s might take the wrap to keep the younger ones out it
hopefully have it covered with some documents
done nothing wrong imo , old timers classic will be a film in the future also
the ones in the 70s might take the wrap to keep the younger ones out it
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Jason Statham plays the ring-leader in the film (nap)
The robbery reminded me of this film instantly
08 Apr 15 20:22
Joined: 16 Jun 04
| Topic/replies: 3,659 | Blogger: Big_Issue's blog
Jason Statham plays the ring-leader in the film (nap)
The robbery reminded me of this film instantly
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