Keane was not a very talented footballer. Almost every aspect of his game was limited, however like many successful people he lacked the self knowledge to realise this. There have been many hundreds of better players over the last 20 years.
Keane was not a very talented footballer. Almost every aspect of his game was limited, however like many successful people he lacked the self knowledge to realise this. There have been many hundreds of better players over the last 20 years.
Keane, clearly - could dominate at midfield at the highest level on sometimes strong / sometimes average Ireland sides. Gerard got the runaround at international level, embarrassing at times.
Keane, clearly - could dominate at midfield at the highest level on sometimes strong / sometimes average Ireland sides. Gerard got the runaround at international level, embarrassing at times.
didn't Fergie say he always found Gerard's status to be totally overrated. Lets face it most scousers are overrated because scousers by and large shout louder than most.
didn't Fergie say he always found Gerard's status to be totally overrated. Lets face it most scousers are overrated because scousers by and large shout louder than most.
tragic Manc fans or football f*ckwits on this thread. Gerrard by a country mile the better player. Keane had the luxury of playing in superb Utd sides; Gerrard has helped very average LFC sides over-achieve - inc. an LFC side winning the European Cup that had Jimmy Traore in it. Not his fault that he was always played out of position by that idiot Sven Goran E, & asked to play beside Fat Frank who shouldn't have been anywhere near the side. Cost LFC the league last season - what an absurd, jaundiced view. His play & crucial goals were the reason LFC got so close to winning the league. The error was made by Rodgers who should have accepted a 0-0 given Chelski shut up shop with 9 men behind the ball & backed the side to win their last 2 remaining games. Gerrard's goals, passing range, vision, assists far superior to anything Keane was capable of, & actually in his pomp Gerrard was as good a ball winner as Keane.
tragic Manc fans or football f*ckwits on this thread. Gerrard by a country mile the better player. Keane had the luxury of playing in superb Utd sides; Gerrard has helped very average LFC sides over-achieve - inc. an LFC side winning the European Cup
The simple fact is that Keane had no greater natural ability than hundreds of players. There was no element of his game that was better than even those playing semi-professional football. Surprisingly this is not as unusual as you might think. He didn`t score goals, never beat players, was unimaginative in his passing and general play. He did however have reasonable ability in tackling and was a good if one dimensional leader. He certainly had qualities that helped and inspired other more gifted players around him....however he was a water carrier when all is said and done.
The simple fact is that Keane had no greater natural ability than hundreds of players. There was no element of his game that was better than even those playing semi-professional football. Surprisingly this is not as unusual as you might think. He did
keanes favourite song is postively 4th street- bob dyan, gerrard wanted to play a phil collins record.
Ha ha, is that true? Keano just gone up in my estimation. A song so good I once named myself after it.
keanes favourite song is postively 4th street- bob dyan, gerrard wanted to play a phil collins record. Ha ha, is that true? Keano just gone up in my estimation. A song so good I once named myself after it.
There was no element of his game that was better than even those playing semi-professional football
Anyone who doesn't appreciate Keane's technical ability, doesn't really understand football imo.
You don't play CM for United for a decade if you are not technically excellent. A decade in which he played against the very best, domestically and in Europe and shone. Won the lot, admired by everyone he played with and against. Not one of whom have said he was technically limited.
You cannot rant at teammates at somewhere like United if you, yourself, are technically lacking. Sooner or later you would be called on it.
The above video is a good example. Under pressure from players like Davids and Zidane, in tight spaces, he had the ability to control the ball, and not only retain possesion but frequently pass it forward intelligently to those better positioned. A masterclass. Positional intelligence, a picture in his head and the technical ability to win the ball, retain it and attack with it.
No wonder the Juventus president told Fergie to name his price and he would pay it for Keane in aftermath of the above game.
Technical ability is not all about playing the Hollywood ball every second pass (with limited results in case of Gerrard). Its also about being intelligent enough to dictate the tempo of a game as required, one of a few reasons why so many top coaches never trusted Gerrard in CM.
Keane was lucky to have Scholes beside him, an even better passer of the ball. Keane recognised this and happily gave him the ball for Scholes to shine. Playing for the ROI he was not blessed with such riches, and it was then you saw the full compliment of his passing ability. And it was top notch.
There was no element of his game that was better than even those playing semi-professional footballAnyone who doesn't appreciate Keane's technical ability, doesn't really understand football imo.You don't play CM for United for a decade if you are no
The comparison you put up with how he played with ireland was spot on.
One of the most underrated players ever.
Hard to believe himself and scholes were the heartbeat of united yet the vastly inferior celebrity team mate beckham was getting nominated for world player of the year.
brilliant post oz.The comparison you put up with how he played with ireland was spot on.One of the most underrated players ever.Hard to believe himself and scholes were the heartbeat of united yet the vastly inferior celebrity team mate beckham was
Certainly his passing and skill were always underrated just because he was a brutal destroyer and they labelled him as that, far better all round footballer than most blinkered souls think.
Certainly his passing and skill were always underrated just because he was a brutal destroyer and they labelled him as that, far better all round footballer than most blinkered souls think.
The only time I really cared for Prem football was those big Arsenal v Man U games back in the day. Was always great entertainment.
What about Keane v Patrick Viera?The only time I really cared for Prem football was those big Arsenal v Man U games back in the day. Was always great entertainment.
I should take issue with this Keane was a thug nonsense - apart from the Haaland incident, which was clearly premeditated, I can't remember any career-threatening tackles made by Keane. Gerrard, on the other hand, has been guilty of several.
Gerrard is the most overrated footballer I have ever seen - Keane was a far superior footballer.
I should take issue with this Keane was a thug nonsense - apart from the Haaland incident, which was clearly premeditated, I can't remember any career-threatening tackles made by Keane. Gerrard, on the other hand, has been guilty of several.Gerrard i