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Report howard • January 9, 2015 1:30 PM GMT
Problem is these guys are not nutters. We are heading for civil war across Europe.
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 1:31 PM GMT
You've never had it so peace-loving.
Report Slicer • January 9, 2015 1:35 PM GMT
No civil war in France!
The French let the Germans walk in during WW2 and for the past 20 years they've let the Muslims walk in.

3 million Muslims in good old tolerant UK! Matter of time before the UK gets it with a wonderful 5th column to help! And what will be done in the UK? ****le. And that's not a town in the North!
Report Tallywagger. • January 9, 2015 1:36 PM GMT
Just a bit of cultural enrichment really. Similar to the goings on in Rotherham and countless other UK towns.

This is what the voters of all left leaning parties across Europe have voted for so they must be feeling very pleased with themselves.
Report Slicer • January 9, 2015 1:40 PM GMT
I have noticed an almost complete absence of the usual leftie apologists on these forums in recent days. I wonder why!
Report leazes67 • January 9, 2015 1:43 PM GMT
Anders Breivik warned of this.
Report Tallywagger. • January 9, 2015 1:43 PM GMT
Perhaps they are out on the streets getting ready for the right wing backlash.
Report patrick starr • January 9, 2015 1:43 PM GMT
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ect9a_video-exclusive-les-images-de-l-arr...
Report stickyvicky • January 9, 2015 1:44 PM GMT
Two reported killed in Supermarket on Euronews site.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • January 9, 2015 1:48 PM GMT
Slicer     09 Jan 15 13:40 
I have noticed an almost complete absence of the usual leftie apologists on these forums in recent days. I wonder why!


I'm a leftie apologist. What do you want to know?
Report Slicer • January 9, 2015 1:52 PM GMT
Why you and your lot are not apololologising for our dear Muslim friends atrocities!
But I don't really want to know because its indefenceable.
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 1:53 PM GMT
The British Left are more concerned about a non-existent place called "Bongo Bongo Land"  than the REAL racism that saw thousands of white sexually-underaged British girls being routinely raped by, and I quote, "Men of Pakistani and African Heritage".

You can't expect the British Left to confront Islamist terrorism, or the "peace-loving" sorts they pretend to like.
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • January 9, 2015 1:55 PM GMT
What are the right doing to confront generations of the British elite's paedophile rings?
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 1:56 PM GMT
the lefties love to label them as brainwashed, lone wolves or extremists.
Report Biscar Two from a mile back • January 9, 2015 1:57 PM GMT
foreign sites claiming 1 women and 4 kids hostages
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • January 9, 2015 1:58 PM GMT
So 'righties' don't think that they are brainwashed or extremists then?
Report alleged22 • January 9, 2015 1:59 PM GMT
brainwashed since birth for the last 1300 years....
Report Mikael D'Haguenet • January 9, 2015 2:01 PM GMT
It's not so long ago that we more enlightened westerners were being brainwashed with pretty much the same bullsh!t.
Report rob_dylan • January 9, 2015 2:18 PM GMT
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Why you and your lot are not apololologising for our dear Muslim friends atrocities!
But I don't really want to know because its indefenceable.


Well that was a well thought out little sentence.  ffs.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 2:20 PM GMT
So these gunmen have served time for terrorists offences before, but i guess the human rights law allows them to stay in France Sad
Report dunlaying • January 9, 2015 2:20 PM GMT
Unverified ,6 hostages and two dead, already.
Report alleged22 • January 9, 2015 2:21 PM GMT
a 3rd incident happening.... at the trocadero center Sad
Report leazes67 • January 9, 2015 2:23 PM GMT
trocadero false alarm
Report Slicer • January 9, 2015 2:26 PM GMT
Now, now Mr Dylan. And there was me thinking some of your covers of the Byrds tunes were quite good!
Report howard • January 9, 2015 2:49 PM GMT
Paris gunman demanding the other two be set freeLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaughLaugh
Report alleged22 • January 9, 2015 3:01 PM GMT
he,s also asked for 2 camels to flee on
Report The Leopard • January 9, 2015 3:02 PM GMT
Do Kosher shops sell Fleas?
Report alleged22 • January 9, 2015 3:04 PM GMT
the zohan is enroute to capture the bad guys Laugh
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 3:08 PM GMT
I hope they charge them for any bagels they eat.
Report dustybin • January 9, 2015 3:08 PM GMT
were they overcharging again?
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 3:11 PM GMT
Now you said that about muslims!!!
I love Jewish humour Maureen Lipmann's books are entertaining. And Woody Allen when he did standup - remember him as a boy in the hostage sketch!!!
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 3:12 PM GMT
I am getting too old  -Now IF you had said that about muslims!!!!!!!!! You would go the same way as cartoonists.
Report The Leopard • January 9, 2015 3:15 PM GMT
Woody Allen....friend of Jeffery Epstein....married his step-daughter....he was funny....but
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 3:17 PM GMT
Yes I thought i might get that coming back to me but I just remember the standup sketches.  What was it now.  'we will give you ten thousand dollars and give you the kid back as well'  or something like it.
Report johnnythebull • January 9, 2015 3:19 PM GMT
watching live stream of France 24 en francais
this ain't looking good
going to end badly for the hostages
apparently there are 1500 old bill/special forces in Dammartin
it would appear the perpetrator of the kosher hold up is the same guy that topped the policewoman at Montrouge y'day
mega manhunt 4 the dude which he's able to avoid & pop up in Vincennes
these guys are no muppets
& mark my words there WILL be some copycat shooting happening here soon
hope i'm wrong
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 3:21 PM GMT
You are watching 'live' coverage of "The Enrichment of France".

Coming to a street near you soon.
Report dustybin • January 9, 2015 3:21 PM GMT
they gunna have to put them behind the red button at this rate, cant keep up with em on the news
what time next one start you reckon?
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 3:23 PM GMT
Would it be the case that we don't have the deep ghettos they have in France. And that there are a lot more radical muslims, fighters etc.  Or maybe I am too sanguine.  Plus a more effective secret service etc etc in the uk.
Report dustybin • January 9, 2015 3:26 PM GMT
banned headscarfs too
more secular than us
old french colonies backfiring
could be loads mre to come
Report dustybin • January 9, 2015 3:27 PM GMT
mali etc too
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 3:28 PM GMT
Men and women can hide anything under their garb.
Report johnnythebull • January 9, 2015 3:31 PM GMT
on a more upbeat note,guys
Armageddon has to start somewhere
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 3:33 PM GMT
Demanding the release of the two brothers.  Good idea. They should agree with their demands!!!

You two boys can come on out now!!!!!!
Report dustybin • January 9, 2015 3:36 PM GMT
i only watched 'dog day out' the other day
great film that, still make me laugh how wierd it all was.

guy phoning hostage takers on phone telling him em to kill all of em and the bank robbers thinking it weird Laugh
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 3:51 PM GMT
How would former Chit Chat obsession RAOUL MOAT (pronounced MISTER MERT of course) have defied this French police operation?
Report howard • January 9, 2015 3:51 PM GMT
Make your family burger meal a take-away to be on the safe side.
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 3:55 PM GMT
all going off Sad
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 3:56 PM GMT
Gunfire in the rural site
Report FlowerMyth • January 9, 2015 3:56 PM GMT
How would former Chit Chat obsession RAOUL MOAT (pronounced MISTER MERT of course) have defied this French police operation?

Watching the BBC coverage earlier, all he'd have had to do was hide on the other side of a grassy slope the police were trying to climb up and kept slipping down. In the end they gave up and had their tea by a wall.
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 4:01 PM GMT
Admittedly, RAOUL (as Kay Two-Pairs used to refer to him) was up against the ferociously capable Suzy Sim, so he was always on a sticky wicket.
Report Ken Masters • January 9, 2015 4:02 PM GMT


Love
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 4:04 PM GMT
Ahh, thank you Kenneth. 

The epitome of Zero Tolerance Policing.
Report alun2005 • January 9, 2015 4:09 PM GMT
There'll be no emboldened terrorists in Northumbria that's for cotton-picking sure.
Report johnnythebull • January 9, 2015 4:11 PM GMT
appears the GIGN have launched an assault in Dammartin
looks like there's gonna be a resolution one or t'other
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 4:15 PM GMT
Burley trying to get into the building Whoops
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 4:17 PM GMT
Burnt bagels!!!!
Report johnnythebull • January 9, 2015 4:17 PM GMT
they can take that old dog any day of the week
twin assault
old bill gone in in Vincennes as well..bonne chance
Report dustybin • January 9, 2015 4:18 PM GMT
well its certainly better than the 5hitty british news of 4 months of political tripe
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 4:20 PM GMT
Can't wait for the 'Brutal French' policing articles in the Guardian.The apologists have already been out in droves on the rag.
Report Slicer • January 9, 2015 4:21 PM GMT
Butcher Brothers both dead.
Report johnnythebull • January 9, 2015 4:22 PM GMT
scum..would be bricking it if they had been captured
hostage freed in Dammartin bros dead
whereas in supermkt saying hostages dead
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 4:22 PM GMT
sounds like some hostages have made it out alive Happy
Report Slicer • January 9, 2015 4:26 PM GMT
All 4 barking fustards dead according to twitter!
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 4:34 PM GMT
Well done to the Frenchies
Report Slicer • January 9, 2015 4:57 PM GMT
4 Hostages in supermarket DEAD!
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 4:58 PM GMT
Sad
Report guinness2dear • January 9, 2015 5:10 PM GMT
A lot more hostages than reported. I counted 12 running out
Report Vubiant • January 9, 2015 5:14 PM GMT
test
Report guinness2dear • January 9, 2015 5:18 PM GMT
Sky now catching up..
Report Vubiant • January 9, 2015 5:24 PM GMT
A-Senior Muslim clerics (preferably Sunni)should have demanded to be taken to the hostage sites to ask/command the gunmen to give up or at least let the hostages go.

(A1-The police/authorities should have invited them to do so anyway.)

B-Even if it is claimed that this ploy had zero chance of success it would have sent out a strong important message that the gunmen were acting in defiance of 'official Islam'.

C-Can anything be read into the fact that senior Muslim religious figures did apparently not make such a gesture ?
All I hear are relatively perfunctory declarations of disassociation.
Report GAZO • January 9, 2015 5:30 PM GMT
take as many close family members as you can find and take them to were they are holding the hostages,send them all in and give them 5 minutes to let the hostages go or they all die
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 5:34 PM GMT
good points vubiant
Report cricketjon • January 9, 2015 5:40 PM GMT
tell you what, Hollande is scheduled to address the nation tonight, he'll be doing it with his **** out
Report Dan Chipowski • January 9, 2015 5:44 PM GMT
Potentially a gunman on the loose now? This is all over the place.
Report guinness2dear • January 9, 2015 5:45 PM GMT
Sent to Calais for reinforcements.
Report guinness2dear • January 9, 2015 6:18 PM GMT
Montpellier jewellers now under siege
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 9, 2015 6:22 PM GMT
not much mention of lone wolves today is their.
Report STUDYFORM • January 9, 2015 10:17 PM GMT
I can't recall EVER seeing any "leftie apologists" on the forum at ANY horrific event such as these in France, or 9/11 or 7/7 or Rotherham and the like or murdered hostages or other innocents, or Boko Haram, or ANY others.

Why is there always a "Well, the Guardian/leftie/liberal hand-wringers/etc etc, will find excuses for them"?
This never happens.

I have yet to see anyone ever try to make excuses for these nutters. I have only ever read of utter contempt and complete anger, yet there are these imaginary 'lefties' who some (let's call them Thatcherites and Blamers) must want to find, to light the place up for them.
Report moisok • January 9, 2015 10:27 PM GMT
You want to check out the muslim writers in the guardian today.  Yes they are there. Stuggling to make excuses and pouring cold water on the atrocities committed in the name of allah.
Report STUDYFORM • January 9, 2015 10:35 PM GMT
I have never actually read the Guardian.
Is this REALLY what the paper is doing?
Report Ovalman. • January 9, 2015 10:52 PM GMT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hISqLRi2w28

Good but not graphic view.
Report The Leopard • January 9, 2015 11:00 PM GMT
Newsnight now
Report maleuk01. • January 9, 2015 11:49 PM GMT
no one ever found guilty of any act terrorism should ever be released.

or anyone found guilty of plotting any act of terror, promoting terrorism, coming back fighting for isis.

And stop listening to the bleeding hearts blabbing on about their rights.
Report Ovalman. • January 10, 2015 12:00 AM GMT
Does that apply to NI?
Report maleuk01. • January 10, 2015 12:06 AM GMT
yep applies to any terrorist.

they can even share the same jail and let them fight amongst themselves.
Report Ovalman. • January 10, 2015 12:11 AM GMT
Well why did the GB government let terrorists out of jail and ex terrorists rule in government Confused
Report maleuk01. • January 10, 2015 12:22 AM GMT
why are you comparing the 2? You carnt make an apology for 1 by saying well this is just as bad.

The next time a terrorist has got hostages who has already been arrested for terrorism charges et and been released,  what I would do is swop the hostages for members of families of all the blleedin apologists and then see if they still have the same viewpoint.
Report Vubiant • January 10, 2015 12:31 AM GMT
Anti-Semitism rampant throughout France -Jews leaving in droves. Pretty sad scene really.
Report akabula • January 10, 2015 1:43 AM GMT
None of these extremists should be taken alive. They should be killed on the spot with no mercy.
Sickened me that the two cants that's murdered Lee Rigby were not shot dead at the time.
Report scandanavian_haven • January 10, 2015 1:45 AM GMT
I don't know about that akabula, it's better that they suffer in prison, why give them an easy ride
Report akabula • January 10, 2015 1:49 AM GMT
I always said that myself but I not so sure they are suffering in prison.
So many 'human rights' now and they have access to stuff that others can't afford.
Report moisok • January 10, 2015 9:35 AM GMT
Studyform

Check out a guy called ramadan  check out what he said in 2008 about taking over. His latest was printed in the paper yesterday. But there are several more and they get on TV news and are interviewed. You think they are ordinary muslims but turn out to be journalists with their own political agenda.
Report pumphol. • January 10, 2015 10:13 AM GMT
Vubiant    10 Jan 15 00:31 
Anti-Semitism rampant throughout France -Jews leaving in droves. Pretty sad scene really.


In a poll apparently 16% of French people  said that French Jews are not really French

Are these people  plain stupid or just Anti - Semitic Crazy
Report The Leopard • January 10, 2015 10:24 AM GMT
^ They are Muslims (9%) and right wing knuckle-draggers (5%)
Report Ibrahima Sonko • January 10, 2015 6:02 PM GMT
Amazing footage, you get to see the hostage taker meeting his end.

.
http://izismile.com/2015/01/10/footage_of_the_raid_on_hostage_takers_in.html

(sorry if it has been posted before)
Report johnnythebull • January 10, 2015 6:22 PM GMT
was reading on France 24 that the 4 dead hostages,subject to post mortem confirmation, in Vincennes were killed by this guy on his taking the store
anyhow,see this is the'non censure' version
wonder how long b4 it's removed
proper cine verite
le RAID did a number on him Sly & Arnie would've been proud of
Report 1st time poster • January 10, 2015 6:26 PM GMT
we keep hearing about these 500 phone calls between the groups
is that this week
this month
this year
since they met
means nothing without the context,ive made 500 calls to the taxmen in my lifetime but we wont be going on a killing spree
Report Ovalman. • January 10, 2015 6:31 PM GMT
I think this has been a watershed for Western people.

If we want to criticise your make believe god then that's our problem and not yours.

Je Suis Charlie
Report johnnythebull • January 10, 2015 6:37 PM GMT
je suis harry kane
1st Time P
think the 500 calls were between the wives of the Kouachi bros as i understand it
Report 1st time poster • January 10, 2015 6:46 PM GMT
yes and she allegedly went out with one of the brothers and alegedly is in syria so unless the phone calls were this week of no real interest really,if the,ve been on a watch list the security people will obviously no of the connection,
24 hr news is useless most of which sky repeated for 12 hours yesterday was wrong
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