The Fight Against ISIS

Are you sure that he was tried under the Islamic court of law? Or are you making that up?

it was reported that he was tried under sharia law

so no i was not making it up

I must confess that I am very surprised. I can't even imagine what he would have been charged with that might incur a death penalty. I can't imagine any offence...full stop!

A sad day for the world and for him and his family in particular.

mc moonbeam made a decent point earlier

why was alan henning in syria?

Did he have anything to gain after giving up his job as taxi driver?

Did he not have a family to support?

was daft to go over there agreed.id still nuke the fcukers though i have no compasion for these people.and any family here who has a memeber of there family joining these monsters should be kicked out the uk as in aunts uncles the lot

the japs were evil in the first world war but this lot are the biscuit.fight fire way fire as my grandad used to say

i guess he realised that the world isn't all about gain and that people are people wherever you go.

And that sometimes we need to use our born privileges to help others in less fortunate situations, even to the temporary detriment of our own families.

ok to play devils advocate

would you leave your wife and kids to help people in Syria?

and also give up a job?

was the mortgage paid?

It is not a question of what I would do or you would do. He had every right to make those choices if he so wished. Did he finish his job or was it temporary leave?
It doesn't really matter as long as he was there legally.

the man made his own choice and fair play.but for me it was a crazy one plenty of peeps n other countys needing help with mess danger.my aunt s a missionary or whatever you call them in africa etc.shes filthy rich though so no morgage etc.

"less danger"

Oct 3, 2014 -- 7:45PM, PugMunter1 wrote:

ok to play devils advocatewould you leave your wife and kids to help people in Syria?

no, but I think a lot of these guys probably travelled when Syria was in the midst of an apparent Arab uprising, before the extremist factions properly took hold. I don't know what assurances or protection the aid workers had, but presumably dollar signs soon flashed in certain warring factions eyes, at the site of westerners.

Also, I suppose he might have been well rewarded for his efforts...I really have no idea. But volunteering for work is not necessarily the same as doing voluntary work.

he done an amzingly brave thing - a lot of balls to do that.

an amazingly kind thing to do

but - would you leave a wife and kid to do what he done?

and to give up a job as taxi driver?

was the wife earning? Was the mortgage paid off?

if he came back well and safe what would have happended then?

if he was my mate or bro id have tried to talk him out of going.if he was my kid id have broke his legs to stop him going.just my thoughts

obviously alan went a long time before this war started

i must say he had a heart of gold but too leave wife and kid alone and also give up job seems mental to me

obviously dont know his personal circumstances but that seemed mental to even think of doing that

It's all eyes on Turkey now. ISIS have travelled as far West as they can go, they won't attempt to get into Turkey. Wouldn't like to be those Kurds being sandwiched between ISIS and Turkey in a no man's land. Maybe the West will allow Turkey to invade Syria taking ISIS out with them? Either way ISIS are buggered so we can stop with the hyperbole about you UK based threats and every Muslim being a terrorist.

not all muslims are terrorists, but most terrorists are muslim.....

except the irish and spanish ones, those in ukraine etc etc

At least it has nothing to do with Islam.  I heard it on sky news.

Time the governments made a few real "Jason Bournes" and just sent them in to wipe them out ...

except the irish and spanish ones, those in ukraine etc etc

well theres those in Indonesia etc, west Africa central Africa and east Africa etc etc etc, your point being Brendan?


off the top of my head id imagine the population of Indonesia is more than Ireland spain and Ukraine combined

oops its more than double the population of those countries combined

how quickly youngsters can become brainwashed by ISIS :
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http://t.co/BemgVWXyDt

The way to fight ISIS, Boko Haram, al qaeda etc is too to go after their sponsor Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Kuwait. And to make friends with strong men in middle east instead of trying to remove them e.g Al Bashir, Saddam Hussein, Gaddafi.

These tough guys they did make sure they dealt serious and harshly to all muslim extremists. It is when west weaken them or remove them when all these trouble started.

brilliant day for hiding even more muslim abuse of underage girls in the uk

Middlesborough now, isn't it?

I would guess it's anywhere that has a Pakistani community.

Oct 3, 2014 -- 7:08PM, PugMunter1 wrote:

it was reported that he was tried under sharia lawso no i was not making it up

He was put on trial for being a spy .The Sharia court found him not guilty .

Shocking.

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http://www.popularemails.com/slider_image.php?img=509

powerful quote (IMO) today from Suleman Nagdi, of the Federation of Muslim Organisations.
"My question to these young people [who might be sympathetic to Isis] is simple: who is living closer to the message of the Qur'an? Is it Isis, or is it somebody like Alan Henning?"

Isis massive income  by selling Oil from the fields they have Overtaken ,
Been sold on the Black Market ,wonder how much of it will End up in the UK ...

Tobermory. Thanks for posting that. I was the one who questioned the post about being tried by Shariah Law. Your post clarifies the matter. PugMunter's inference was that he'd been beheaded by order of the court.
Isis are simply a bunch of outlaws.

Hows tricks pug ?did you watch the darts last night ?hope yer not hitchiking over the continent to join isas mate

Outlaws or not.

There have been eight air attacks today on IS today, yet Syria-Turkey border town of Kobane

are in severe danger of falling to them..on red button.

Are air attacks enough?

UN envoy urging international community to act now to prevent IS seizing Kobane

They say fall would be "a massacre and a human tragedy"

If we want to fight IS this is where we have to do it

Not a lot of use people just complaining about them

Air Strikes continue but position is precarious

"We" shouldn't be fighting in Kobane. The town is right on the border between Syria and Turkey, so one would have thought the Turks would have a direct interest in preventing the establishment of an ISIS protectorate there.

Sadly, their own narrow self-interest in not aligning with the Kurds protecting it and of course their historical embarrassment at the original reasons for its founding - it was first settled by Armenians fleeing the pogrom one is not allowed to call a pogrom - prevents them from taking a more proactive role in its defence.

thanks for that jed, it was going through my mind why on earth the turks arent doing more, it seems a crazy situation

with all the turkish tanks lined up and not firing a single shot in anger. !!!

Turks have a history of not liking the Kurds very much.

We should not fighting??????????????????

I thought you did not like Muslims, going by your other posts

Well here is your chance

Someone has to do something about IS

Turks have a history of not liking the Kurds very much.

true sica

Kurds are claiming their own country, inside Turkey

they have killed Turks for this

It's a very difficult situation for Erdogan as it happens - Turkish public opinion would be ambivalent at best about him helping out the Kurds, and of course there is Turkey's own Islamic population to consider when taking up arms against this ISIS mob.

The Turks and Kurds have long fought each other since Ataturk stymied the Bitish plan to create an independent Kurdistan after the Great War by simply annexing the territory proposed for that country. The Kurds fought a long war against Turkey, in which tens of thousands of people were killed and millions displaced.

Ultimately, Turkey will be compelled to take up arms. They may prevaricate, but their own self-interest will make the decision for them.

I have no time for Islam EbulGery, at least not the Islam practised in much of the modern Islamic world. Sadly, the idea of Jihad espoused by Qtub seems to have won the day among Sunnis, which is why they pose such a clear and present danger to the peace of the world.

And in Iraq, we should be doing everything we can, including boots on the ground, to destroy as many of these ISIS loons as possible, and as quickly as possible. That is not possible in Syria however, as boots on the ground would constitute an invasion, which is illegal under International law.

Finally, it is not our job to police Turkey's borders, particularly given the advanced and modern weaponry and training of the Turkish Armed Forces. It is Turkey's job. As I said above, it may not be a job they savour, but it is nonetheless their job.

One would hope that they perform better than the Iraqi army did. They fled before IS forces and, the biggest sin of all, they didn't destroy their heavy weapons! They should never have been left in working condition.

The reason the heavy weapons were'nt destroyed is because most of the Iraqi army joined the 'enemy'..

Latest Kurds are holding

I imagine SAS and American special forces will be in advance positions identifying IS targets

for our aircraft

I think you are right Guinness, the Sunni members of the Iraq army would have gone over to IS

The remaining Shia elements of the Iraq army are not standing against IS, that is the problem

cant see them ( kurds ) holding out on a reliance of air attacks alone. it seems they have a lack of heavy weapons and are asking

anyone who will listen for more arms. they seem to have been left out to dry, i just hope the air attacks hit their targets and

cause more damage than first thought...

Thanks G2D and Ebul. That does explain how their size grew so fast and how they got the weaponry. Hardly a trustworthy bunch of chaps, are they?
Maybe next time they should not be allowed to just go home.

US now admitting air attacks may not be enough Glasgow

the lack of heavy weapons would explain that

http://beforeitsnews.com/middle-east/2014/10/isis-terrorist-caught-having-sex-with-a-donkey-2462210.html

what does the koran say about this?

EeeeAwww

the yanks have been holding back - the whole things stinks

half a dozen bombs a day!!  they have three squadrons on that carrier alone!!

Today on red button

Air strikes have stalled IS advance in Kobane

the current claim